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Let’s explore this.
If we agree to entertain his lie for a moment, and the further implication that the people supposedly supplying her with drugs were responsible for her OD, doesn’t that same logic make gun dealers responsible for shootings?
*gasp*
Logic!
Get ‘em! [*crashing, yelling, trampling noises*]
Nah, guns don’t kill people, just the bullets fired out of them kill. No one very died from a gun itself
Anyone beaten to death with the pistol grip or rifle stock would like to have a word with you.
Or the military personnel shot by misfiring pistols when they drop them.
And surely someone in history has been killed by knocking over a rack of guns and being clobbered.
You don’t need gun control. You know what you need? We need some bullet control.
Then it’s because of whoever sold the bullets.
Let’s not bother, not only do they don’t care about hypocrisy, double speak is actually their superpower
Nah, it says on this piece of paper that it’s different.
Blaming Mexicans as a people for the acts of a few? Monstrous and inane. Not a rational thought process for a healthy individual
Stealing drugs from your patients? Monstrous but sympathy-worthy. Opiate addiction is life ruining, and I blame pharmaceutical companies and bodily destructive American work culture for this. I hope she has stayed far away from the medical field since then, for her benefit and for everyone else’s.
Lying about one to cover up the other in order to renew a race war? Just evil.
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I think it’s sympathy worthy because of the fact she wasn’t doing it to spite her patients. She was doing it because she was suffering from an addiction, and addiction makes people do things that they wouldn’t normally do.
So it’s humanizing his mother and saying she was someone who was caught up in something that was too big for her to control and that is sad.
That doesn’t excuse the fact that she raised a piece of shit child, or that she hurt people from her addiction. It just sets all of that to the side to focus on the one specific thing that someone with empathy can sympathize over.
As someone who grew up with a sibling who became an addict, leading them from being just a regular asshole to being downright abusive on top of all of the theft, volatility, and other drug-related issues…
Yeah. Still, it took me some 15 years or so to reach that line of relative forgiveness.
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Because it’s driven by intense desperation. You don’t help addicts by ambushing them, you help them by understanding what’s caused them to be the way that they are and how to break their system of dependence. You can’t advance as a society without being able to break unhealthy cycles. So yes, monstrous but sympathy-worthy
I’m sure you don’t mean it that way, but I think even the phrase “be the way that they are” is lacking empathy and looking at it the wrong way. It’s not about the way that they are; it’s about the way that they are handling the stressors in their life.
I lacked the verbiage to describe what I meant in the 30 seconds I had available to reply. It was just vaguely phrased, but you’re right
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You’re digging into my extreme time crunch comment and finding hard nuggets. I assure you, each and every one of them was a kernel of corn. I wasn’t attacking you, I just had 30 seconds to explain addiction counseling to someone without a visible understanding of it.
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I don’t mean to sound rude, but I don’t see this conversation going anywhere positive. You’re entirely too upset and I’m entirely too indifferent. If anyone asks, tell them you won this conversation and I’ll corroborate. Here’s an updoot
That’s some real hillbilly shit right there.
Come listen to my story 'bout a man named Jd
Some say his love for couches was strong, some say his lust for couches was strong, the only thing that is certain is he’s fucked a sofa or two.
The song needs to be an elegy.
He grew up in Middletown, Ohio. Even if she hadn’t been stealing drugs from patients, I know the drug scene there well enough to know plenty of dealers are white. But also the opiate epidemic in the rust belt wasn’t some cartel thing, it’s simple: the jobs left, nobody had any hope left, and suddenly that injury you got from doing manual labor for years wound up with this new painkiller the doctor was told isn’t addictive.
If she was that desperate, odds are good she sucked a few dicks for drugs, too. Surely not news to him, those trailer walls are thin.
That would probably happen after she got caught stealing from patients. Which he may have still been around for–I don’t know the details.
I wonder who JD’s father really is…
He’s a dead ringer for Rush Limbaugh.
James Donald Bowman is a sad excuse for a human being. I will always remind people of his real name he got from his deadbeat father and the mother he’s slandering here. Just to cuck for another asshole named Donald.
Join me in deadnaming him!
I found the full story here https://crooksandliars.com/2024/07/jd-vance-called-out-over-lie-about-his
Um, well, did she steal them from Mexican patients?
No.
Checkmate liberawls!
Okay, but you can’t say that during an election because it’s rude and divisive. You’re not taking the problem of illegal Mexicans trafficking in double plus illegal drugs seriously, and you shouldn’t denigrate a rich man’s mother.
If this is satire, it’s written too close to the bone.
So many references make me want to reread books I read decades ago. I appreciated them at the time, but I think it might be different now.
Just Dunce Vance is a big fat liar, who could have seen this coming.
Politician lying?! That’s unpossible!
FYI, fentanyl is used in US hospitals as the cheapest opiate. Excess OD deaths from fentanyl tend are only ever caused by it being “accidentally present” in another drug. Paying the Taliban to grow opium for US export (they can still prevent local sales) could be a viable path to affordable US healthcare without fentanyl. Much US supply of fentanyl is stolen from legal hospital supplies.
If there was a real national emergency for fentanyl from Canada, a war on hospitals providing 100x the fentanyl that is seized on Canadian border to tax them an extra 25% is going to get them back to using morphine/oxy whatever that costs.
