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    In the same way I feel bad for all the women out that had to put up with conversations about crypto for the last decade, the astrology for dudes

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        Hmm this gives me an idea…

        Ladies, who would like to invest in your sign? The of course you will have to compete for investments against the other birth signs I also represent…

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          It’s ok to be casually racist against white people because it’s “punching up”. Which implies white people are superior. Which is racist against non-whites wait…

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            … that’s like saying billionaires are superior, because you punch up at them. It’s not about being better, it’s about privilege.

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              rich white men are privileged.

              poor whites, are not privileged.

              and there are way more poor white people than rich white people.

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                Poor whites are still white. Yes they’re still privilege

                Edit - at this point 4 downvotes. 4 white people need to pull theirs heads out their ass

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                  cool, go trade places with a poor white boy in louisana and see how much ‘privilege’ that life brings.

                  I’m sure you will love the lack of education, economic opportunity, and the backwards culture you’re brought up in that you can’t escape.

                  oh, you don’t want ot make that trade? gee, maybe because you’re more privileged than they are…

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          To my understanding white isn’t really a race.

          We kind of just like… pick and choose who ever we want to consider white.

          I suspect if I went around saying Russians are white people like Americans like South Africans, and like French people. Many people would give me the: 🤨

          Finally. These are some of my favorite kind of white girls.

          I prefer dark hair but I am a sucker for pale skin.

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        I remember when in my undergrad almost my entire class spent their entire second year learning about blockchain and attending events related to it, and I was proud of myself for playing videogames all day instead. Nobody even talks about blockchain anymore. It’s a waste of compute, and most things built on top of it are a grift. There must be some useful cases, but none I can think of. Maybe someone with more experience in Industry can.

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          This might be controversial but hear me out:

          The idea of an international independent currency that can be made use of anonymously and therefore not controlled by anyone is a great idea.

          Most smaller coins are just scams, reimplementing the same protocols that earlier schemes did and eventually adopting a clear pump & dump characteristic.

          However, I personally believe that bigger coins like etherium that don’t fold as quickly and stick around are genuinely a good idea.

          Moreover, there’s use cases where transactions are tracked for different systems, for example tracking an interconnected energy grid and usage of households.

          And then you also have to consider that block-chains themselves can just be used to keep a fulsome record of something, with the main goal of decentralizing control over that record. I’m sure there will be quite a few use cases for it that make more sense and it’s quite a shame the stigma of crypto got attached to it.

          If you wanna learn more about how block chains are actually researched, you have to dive into academic publications, but then you will find out scientists have a very different vision for this technology which is way more useful. And for the sake of actual science, I hope they don’t get buried under the stigma of crypto, because oftentimes these are just very smart people with lots of passion for something that they genuinely see value in.

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            First of all, it’s not guaranteed that it’ll say “not controlled by anyone”. For example the arms race of something like bitcoin mining leads to mining becoming unprofitable to anyone not building massive mining farms. The efficiency of mining leads to bigger control over the proof of work so there’s a natural centralization of control happening with proof of work. And proof of stake isn’t saving anyone either because that just opens the door to a different kind of centralization of control. Give it another 50 years and currencies like etherium will also be centralized. With all of the negatives and none of the benefits of centralization.

            And that’s the other point, I don’t think an internationally independent currency is that great of an idea. At least I don’t think it’s better than a currency with a central authority. For example central authorities manage the inflation (or in case of crypto currencies the deflation) of the currency to keep is stable and usable. Central authority also keeps oversight of illegal activities, the lack of that oversight is why crypto is popular with the black market. You also get certain consumer-protections which you’re unlikely to get with crypto because there’s no authority to enforce them, for example if your account gets hacked or stolen you’re fucked while banks would freeze your account and reverse transactions. And of course there’s taxation, which I can’t imagine how that would even happen with crypto.

            I’m not saying blockchain itself is a useless technology, but I have don’t believe it’s usable as a currency. I also have some serious reservations in its use elsewhere because I have a hard time imagining where it would be better than a traditional database solution.

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      The amount of times I’ve asked a crypto bro to tell me exactly what The Blockchain is and them being able to actually lucidly explain it is exactly 0, in my experience.

      I know there’s science somewhere in there, but the loudest enthusiasts I’ve come across treat it like magic.

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        It’s really not that interesting unless you’re specifically into cryptography, and then it’s like, kind of interesting for 20 minutes. I remember when “the blockchain” first came out people were talking about lots of potential uses (secure online voting was the only one that comes to mind) besides scamming people and selling illegal stuff, but of course none of those ever materialized.

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        it’s not magic, it’s just really boring and stupid if you explain it well.

        it’s just a decentralized authentication network built on cryptography algorithms. but i guess if you don’t know what any of those words mean it seems mysterious. you need a baseline understanding of networking and cryptography, and well, very few people have that.

        and people attribute financial value to each bitcoin (or whatever coin), which is just a piece of code you uniquely possess when it is in your ‘wallet’.

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        I know there’s science somewhere in there

        There is! It looks something like this…

        😬

        Okay I felt bad for everyone who was too lazy to search so here’s how it works.

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        Yeah I agree the manosphere is more analogous to astrology, but I’m also guessing there’s a much higher percentage of manosphere believers that never actually go on dates to even discuss their ideas and culty beliefs, compared to any blockchain based technology, which almost all actively dating douchebags participate in and no doubt talked about on actual dates.

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    A friend set me up on a date with a coworker of him. then she spent about 20 minutes drawing my astral chart. She had notes, books and even an iPad app.

    Eventually she concluded we were not compatible, while I concluded the same thing about 20 seconds in.

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      I like to think of astrology as a fine grained personality shorthand like Meyers Briggs.

      the magical star-assigned fixed personality is dumb. what’s useful is being able to tell Becky to stop being such a Capricorn and come out and party, even if she is a cancer or whatever. it’s just a memey way to reference behavioral traits if your friend group already knows what they mean. i don’t know how to explain this any better

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          Early in our dating, my wife had me take the enneagram test. I got a 2, she’s a 9. I told her I found a page detailing relationships between 2’s and 9’s and some of the strengths and weaknesses we’d navigate as a couple.

          As I was reading it she kept saying, at first, “That makes sense!” Or “Yeah I can see that.” There were a few that were kind of out there. But she kept listening.

          Eventually I revealed to her that I was ACTUALLY reading a page detailing relationships between a dragon and a sheep, our respective Chinese Zodiac signs. And that I was using this to support my argument that personality tests are astrology for educated people.

          Still ended up getting laid, though not that day. 😅

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          It’s clearly pseudoscientific nonsense. But it’s easier to say “I’m a pisces” instead of “I’m feeling hesitant about the future of our relationship, Sarah” if she is into that. The value is in being able to reference loose personality archetypes without having to spend a paragraph describing someone.

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            But being a Pisces doesn’t mean anything, does it? It could both mean being someone who is afraid of risks and someone who is bold and takes chances.

            How is it easier?

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              It’s all contextual, honestly, but here are my impressions of the uh, categories:

              Pisces: wishy washy, both sides, indecisive, peacemaker, likes blue stuff

              Capricorn: hustle culture, hates fun

              Taurus: confident, aggressive, clumsy, bro-ish

              I don’t have any others on deck without looking them up lol

              Edit: oh my god you guys. the magical star-assigned fixed personality is dumb. what’s useful is being able to tell Becky to stop being such a Capricorn and come out and party, even if she is a cancer or whatever. it’s just a memey way to reference behavioral traits if your friend group already knows what they mean. i don’t know how to explain this any better

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              it means what people want it to mean.

              And that’s why Astrology is so powerful. it’s 100% projection and bias confirmation.

              ‘take chances’ is entirely relative. what is a bold risk for one person, is an afterthought for another person, but in astrology there is no specific context, just vague nonsense worded such that anyone can project onto it.

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            The problem is that you’re not really referencing “loose personality archetypes” in these sorts of conversations, they’re being assigned to you, relatively arbitrarily. It doesn’t matter if I’m serious and thoughtful, but because I was born on the third moon after the pomegranate harvest, I’m the joker of the group.

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              No, I think it’s pretty reasonable to push back if you’re being pigeonholed into some kind of archetype you disagree with. Tell them to stop being such Capricorns. The trick is it doesn’t really matter what sign you use, it’s just a bit

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            Personally I do find it interesting, when people do tell their Myers-Briggs -test results, since it can tell about, what sort of a person they want to be. But it is not scientific in the slightest.

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        You forgot the part about how it’s determined by giant balls of gas millions of light years away that aren’t actually arranged in neat patterns, but are actually incredibly far from one another and only look like patterns from our specific position in the universe

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        That argument falls flat to me simply because there are 13 zodiac signs, not 12, and ancient (and modern) astrologers simply ignore the 13th one (Ophiuchus) for convenience.

        If you are going to claim the stars have influence over our personalities, at least be consistent with how you “read” said stars.

        Not to mention, there is zero evidence that astrology works.

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          Also, at the time most of the zodiac and star chart arrangements were plotted out, the Earth had an entirely different north star than it does now. So your modern star sign would not even be consistent with the ancient charts and star signs, yet somehow all the same definitions and assumptions are supposed to apply.

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            I can appreciate that view point as long as we are in agreement that there is no real science behind it. I can totally see how people use “I’m such a Pisces” to describe themselves as sensitive and emotional. I just wish they would say “I’m sensitive and emotional” instead, lol.

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              I tried to express that as clearly as I could, it’s just like a more ethical version of Slytherin/gryffindor/etc, I tend to be friends with excessively referential people I guess.

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        A trait can apply to anyone in any category. The whole premise is an exercise in the celebration of ignorance. I won’t stand for it.

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    I will choose to make fun of it at every chance. Fortunately my girlfriend doesn’t mind, so I can also still get laid.

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    I have a pretty large, coed friend group, and roughly 50% of the women are into astrology, while none of the men are. Personally, I could never date someone who took astrology seriously. Fortunately, unlike this meme tries to paint them, there are many women who don’t take astrology seriously.

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      my wife “believed” in astrology before and while we were first dating. she used it as an easy way to weed out which guys couldn’t get over themselves over a trivial difference in perspective and figure out how to compromise.

      turns out we would both read the astrology section of the newspaper growing up and giggle about how wrong it was. she just figured out a way to use it to find the right people.

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        Oh this is definitely the case. When I was younger, I was definitely the kind of guy to publicly ridicule things like astrology, and I learned that would make me no friends. Today I’d much rather surround myself with people who act kind to each other and accept each other. Y’all are totally on that same page.

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          yup. my idiot brother consciously made it his personality to dislike everything. he still can’t figure out why he doesn’t have friends. i’ve tried explaining how you build closer relationships over stuff you like rather than stuff you dislike. he doesn’t like that.

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      Dated a girl and, while we were walking through the park, she points up at the sky. “Oh look, Chemtrails”. I absolutely bust up laughing, because I assume I’ve accidentally stepped into a relationship with a conspiracy theorist. She looks incredibly confused. I explain what chemtrails are. She gets even more confused. We whip out our phones for a minute. She says, “Omg I meant contrails”

      She’s a lawyer at a white shoe firm now and makes, like, twice as much as I do in IT. Also, absolutely incredible in the sack.

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        First day of uni. Having lunch with 3 people.

        “Hey do any of you watch my little pony?”

        I burst out laughing. Turns out guy was super serious. He was convincing enough that he managed to get me to watch half of friendship is magic before I decided i would never talk to him again.

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        Oh wow, with all the memes I’ve only ever learned the word “chemtrails”. Don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “contrails” before, even though that certainly makes a lot more sense…

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      There are more stupid people than non-stupid people.

      Getting laid is a numbers game. You vastly reduce your chances if you start getting picky.

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        But maybe, just maybe, and I know I’m talking crazy here, but maybe if you weed out the ones that aren’t worthwhile your quality will go up.

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          for a lot of people being picky means they will never get laid. and that’s fine, if you can accept that.

          but they don’t. they are enraged by the lack of ‘quality’ people available to them. and offended by the abundance of low quality people available to them.

          the idea you can ‘raise your standards’ and get ‘better results’, in dating/mating, is mostly cope. Especially when you start looking at the statistics. truth is people really should lower them, and well, humble themselves. because most folks aren’t nearly as ‘hot’ as they perceive themselves to be.

          it’s also highly subjective. I attract a lot of very desirable women, but they aren’t desirable to me due to my own biases and lifestyle preferences. Just yesterday I got like half dozen likes from women on Hinge, but they all worked in finance or pharma, so I rejected them because for me working in those industries means ‘low quality’ just like believe in astrology. But if I wanted to get laid? Yeah I should get over that bias, those type of women really like me, even though I hate them. And I only developed this bias due to my younger years… repeatedly trying to date them and running into the same miserable issues again and again.

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        It’s a good thing nobody is doing that, then. Nowhere near half of women believe that nonsense.

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          Oh sorry, only 43% of women aged 18-49, I guess 43% is nowhere near half. I suppose if you’re a granny chaser then it is indeed only a quarter. If you’re into LGBT folks, it actually goes above 50% (over 60% for LGBT women).

          Since my own dating pool and most of my friendships are smack dab in the middle of that 18-49 demographic, I can tell you it’s easily around half of women around that age who believe in astrology, tarot or something else similar here in Estonia, so it’s not US specific either. Including a lot of otherwise very intelligent women. A master’s degree in a STEM field for example does not discourage one from believing in astrology by any means.

          Or perhaps you just don’t know enough women?

          Oh and men aren’t all innocent either. A fifth of men aged 18-49 believe in astrology or similar superstitions too. Less than half as many as women, but still a significant amount.

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            Wow that statistic is way more depressing than I realized. I guess I am lucky to only be surrounded by non-crazy women.

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              I suspect a lot of the women you know believe it but don’t talk about it unless prompted. Luckily the “oh you’re a whatever sign, it would never work” level of belief seems uncommon among even those who do believe.

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            We really need to distinguish between “stupid” opinions and “stupid” people.

            Very smart people can hold very stupid opinions in some aspects and the average person will certainly hold some stupid ass opinions not necessarily restricted to “spirituality”.

            My uncle was top of his class but fell for every mlm he encounterd, my dad is a capable businessman but believes a cut up onion in the window will get all viruses out of the air. I have so many examples like that.

            So half of women aren’t stupid but probably 100% of all people hold at least one stupid “believe” i think.

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            And 100% of gamers have pressed the randomize button to at the start of a game to see if it’s something they can identify with.

            Consulting Tarot has as much to do with thinking it’s scientifically real as flipping a coin has to do with making objective decisions.

            Astrology and personality tests that get sold to businesses and a ton of other “fake” things all work the same way: they propose things that are frequently or universally true and then invite people to look at in what ways they agree with them or how they fit current situations.

            Calling these things fake is the same as saying the personal reflections of people aren’t real.

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    In a college classroom with only women, we did a student survey that asked how many believe in astrology. It was 50%.

    I’m curious how that boils down in a coed institution, or a research 1 school or something.

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      Of all the non-scientific things to believe in, astrology is one of the weirdest. Especially if you’re talking about ancient astrology, come on now… the sky has changed significantly in eg 2000 years, how could you make any conclusions based on that? Or the figures drawn from groups of stars, constellations, that are not even remotely close to each other if you look from another viewpoint?
      But I guess it’s even worse… I guess most people talk about their magazine horoscopes, that aren’t even written by actual astrologers :(

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        As has been pointed out many times the configuration of the solar system today is completely different to the configuration of the solar system on this date precisely 365 days ago, because the orbit of the Earth has very little to do with all the other planets. So even if the locations of random astronomical objects, but not others because they don’t count obviously, have an impact on my personality why are all libras the same, how does that work?

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          What’s the difference in pretending to believe in astrology and pretending to be interested in anything else they’re saying?

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            I just hit them with the “Oh wow that’s crazy yeah I don’t really know much about all of that tbh”.

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              i did that on my last date when she started talking to me about biotec startups to invest in privately because she wasn’t getting enough return on her stock portfolio and she was expected a double digit return or how else could she retire comfortably?

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            If the guy doesn’t believe as much it’s rape but if the woman doesnt believe as much it’s not.

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            Save yourself time and don’t lie about who you are.

            This is also job application advice. If you never smile in real life but you pretend to act bubbly for an entire interview: your ass better bubble like a pro if you’re hired.

            But ymmv

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              I bought an astrology tapestry when I was in university. I don’t buy into astrology really but the tapestry served its purpose.

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              what if the other person doesn’t believe the truth about who you are?

              personally, I’ve noticing people accusing me of lying when I’m telling the truth frequently. And when I lie, they think I’m telling the truth and never question it.

              Weird how that works.

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              and what if the more drunk person threatens you if you don’t rape them? or worse, threatens to tell others you raped them if you don’t rape them?

              what do you do then? I’ve been in that situation a couple of times. Not a fun place to be. Sometimes doing the right thing gets you punished.

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          We have been married for 46 years now. Despite the fact she was into astrology and I listened intensely to her about it in the beginning. It is called learning everything about each other. And if anyone was “rapey”, it was her. These days she laughs and says it was the rebellious catholic upbringing in her, (I still call her a recovering Catholic). And that I was oblivious to all the hints she was dropping in front of me.

          It all just one of the many shared memories we have together. I wouldn’t give any of them up for life itself.

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    I used to be a bit of a dick about astrology. I still think it’s nonsense, but now I kinda view it as a structure for people to explore their own emotions and as a kind of authority struct to get people to treat those emotions as valid. Ultimately I feel like its no different than me sharing emo song lyrics with an “omg they understand me frfr” type message. Maybe the astrology believer isn’t upset because Venus is in retrograde or whatever, but they are upset their emotions are valid. I don’t gain anything from being a wet blanket about scientific accuracy in that situation, and they feel like I am invalidating their emotions if I choose to be that scientifically accurate wet blanket. Plus, retrograde is a dope word and I’m not sure if I’d know it if not for the crystal girls I’ve dated

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      yes. they want to feel their emotions are valid. even if they aren’t. Astrology and other theoretical systems also take the locus of control out of their own authority and place it in a higher authority to which they are subjected.

      and therein lies the problem. not every emotion is valid. some emotions are invalid. but if you aren’t responsible for the causes of your emotions… you’re not responsible for figuring out which ones are valid or invalid. they are something that happens to you, not something you control.

      and happy well-adjusted folks… learn to figure out which is which, and unhappy folks… can’t or won’t do this. and a huge part of therapeutic processes is … learning to identify and assess your own emotional states and whether or not to act on them.

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        29 天前

        Explains why I’m horribly unhappy I have Alexithymia.

        Don’t believe in astrology though.

        (Edit: also emotions can’t be “valid” or “invalid” they’re just the source of your motivations really.)

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          Emotions can be based in reality. Or they can be based in false perceptions of reality.

          That’s what makes them valid or invalid.

          Your fear of the boogeyman in the closet is invalid. Your fear of the drunk driver weaving around you on the highway is valid.

          Of course, if you don’t believe reality exists, or that reality is entirely derivation of your emotions, then yeah, you should be very very afraid and you should invest in anti-boogeyman man traps to put in your closet so he can’t get you at night.

          But of course, most of us would consider people who believe in boogeymen to be delusional. Delusion is a symptom of psychological problems. And delusional folks think it’s everyone else who is insane for not seeing the Boogeyman.

          people have lots and lots of emotions that are not based in external reality, many are based in fictions they make up in their heads. but of course, being able to recognize and admit that… is not a capability many folks develop. many folks never question their emotions at all.

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      What’s sadder is that yoga, chakras, and crystals are traditionally from religions within the Indian subcontinent. Westerners are simply taking aspects of South Asian cultures, indigenous cultures, African cultures, and then bastardising them into marketable “neo-pagan witchcraft.”

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        Not the people, industries do that.

        People are very good at adopting whatever and thats mostly fine. Nobody is forced to partake in the corporate stuff. I also think its a bit unfair to westerners, we would like some culture too and we would not like to be restrained to christianity or the celtic stuff (that i personally like) but is very popular with nazis as well. In general living in the middle of europe everything native to my culture always feels a bit right wingey which many obviously dislike.

        Being part of a foreign religion doesn’t make it non bullshitty though. I will not just shit on any religion that i didn’t grow up with but you can’t argue that there aren’t people everywhere commercializing and using religion in their own interest.

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      even if i were male and straight, I don’t think i could ever respect astrology…

      but moreover, it’s creepy as fuck for someone to pretend a change in their beliefs just for sex. that’s kinda literally false pretense for sex. i know I’d never convince a jury of it, but as far as I’m concerned in my personal life, imagining doing such a thing fills me with revulsion and it crosses the line into sexual assault territory.

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        you realize it’s incredibly common for folks to do this? of any gender?

        i broke up with most of my exes because they false presented themselves to me. they saw absolutely nothing wrong with it, and to them I was the one who was awful and terrible for not ‘loving and accepting them for who they really are’. i had one ex who specific said ‘you’d have never dated me if i had told you the truth’.

        was I sexually assaulted by those women? who deliberately lied to me to have sex and engage in a relationship with me?

        I don’t think very many people would consider what they did as sexual assault.

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          yes, i do in fact realize that it’s incredibly common for folks to be shitty human beings. i have elected to not be like them. because they are shitty. “everyone’s doing it” does not make it right.

          furthermore, literally all the rest of my post after the first sentence, set aside purposefully with two line breaks, intentionally did not specify or even mention gender. so I’m not sure why you brought it up as it were relevant.

          above and beyond standard social contract expectations,
          i shall additionally, PERSONALLY decline to perform acts that feel wrong to me,
          irrespective of others’ opinions.

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            Well, IME people who talk like you, who boast about how truthful and honest they are, are the same ones who lied.

            Weird how that works out, isn’t it?

            Almost as if folks who boast about how honest and great they are, typically aren’t either of those things. And their need to boast is projection/overcompensation for their true behaviors.

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              Come to think of it, it is weird that the way you think things are just so happen to work out in your favor. It’s almost as if you never had anything relevant to say in the first place.

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        The difference is most of them don’t believe in any of it. It’s just entertaining to them. Find ten people who say like astrology and ask them to make base a life deciding event on it all 10 of them will make the decision on factors outside of astrology.

        An easy way to tell, if they ask what month you were born in, they don’t believe in astrology… As the months don’t line up with the stars.

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          And then you have people like my own mom who judges, and forms whole opinions about, people based on their astrology signs.

          Even if some sort of behaviour completely contradicts their supposed astral sign, she’ll make it fit.