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Early 2000s entertainment too. A good portion of the edgy jokes could be considered funny because they were made on the assumption that “We can laugh about this, because we all know racism and sexism is bad, right?”.
And then 2015ish happened and it became obvious that a lot of people weren’t laughing AT the -isms but rather WITH.
EDIT: Which slur did Ross use, BTW? I haven’t watched that show in eons, and I don’t remember any.
Round of applause to Deep Space 9 for holding up after all these years, half that station was bi at the very least.
The alternate universe on that show was the horniest thing in TV for decades.
Horniest? I mean, DS9 did run concurrently with Lexx…
Never heard of this before. Google tells me it was only available in the US on Showtime and later the SciFi channel, neither of which I had access to.
it’s on YouTube for free
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZVMGCh7sZUjUiCdLnH2koZbTpTM5wp9m
Season 2 is peak Lexx
It’s one of my favorite tv shows.
Fyi all these videos in this playlist are deleted as of 22 of Feb at 2p est…
It was even licensed and translated for broadcast in other countries, but I concur that Lexx is a bit obscure one
Lexx was a British-German-Canadian production.
Lexx is a British-Canadian-German production.
I see you never watched Farscape and its BDSM space muppets.
There is absolutely no inaccuracy in that description of that frelling show.
It doesn’t matter who you are, Evil Kira wants you lol
Season 1 Bashir probably needed an HR meeting abput his continued sexual advances on Jadzia.
Don’t worry, Garak was working on fixing him.
Thats why we have Garak
Oh, the Occupation apologist? He was still justifying the concentration camps into season 5.
Yeah, and eventually he came around. He was never supposed to be perfect, but he grew, and that made him interesting.
haven’t seen friends but as someone familiar with the zeitgeist it’s almost certainly “retarded”
which was also all over adult swim at the time and is recently having its renaissance
Ah, the infamous hard R
I havent watched LTT content in a while but I was watching that stream and Lukes face when Linus says that will live forever rent free in my head.
I’ve noticed that lately. It went from being everywhere to nowhere and now it’s creeping back up. I’ll be honest here, I miss the word but if it’s hurting that many people who haven’t done anything then you’re a fucking piece of shit if you use it.
I was rooting for the “gay” renaissance where people talked about how gay everything was but changed it to mean awesome instead of shitty.
I was rooting for the “gay” renaissance where people talked about how gay everything was but changed it to mean awesome instead of shitty.
wait you too?
Absolutely. I’m still rooting for it but it seems to be kind of petering out here.
Yeah that this is just how millennials talked in high school and we’re entering into that “old person stops caring” phase of life about now?
We’re not that old yet ffs.
There are none of us in our 20s anymore.
Last time I checked old didn’t cover 30s+ even 50+ is still middle aged.
Who’ve you checked with? Boomers or Zoomers?
That would be pretty gay
Thats the same reason I hate Trailer Park Boys.
So much of it is laughing at the poors. I know people who are so sheltered and middleclass they think “LoL can you imagine if people lived like this”
Bruh, you ever known people born into generatiknal poverty?
Bruh, you ever known people born into generatiknal poverty?
You mean like the cast and writers of the show?
I think you have what I mean twisted. What life is like for people stuck in the poverty or trailer park cycle is not a universal experience and for all the people that do get it or do empathise and have an understanding that “this is a window into a world I’m not from presented in a humorous way” theres someone sitting there laughing thinking that the whole thing is a wild exaggeration, laughing at the idea that people are really like that or using it to confirm their own biases “the parts that confirm my biases are facts and the parts that dont are just entertainment”
Me hating the show isnt a commentary on its quality, the creators and cast should be very proud of it. I just cant stand to sit and watch it because some of it is too real to be funny as someone who also came up really fucking poor.
I think I understand now. It’s like you’re personally bearing the gaze of outsiders who don’t have the context to understand the situation they’ve found you in and mock it.
I wish I could get people to care about health care and wages as much as they care about mean words. So many seemingly don’t mind being robbed blind as long as our ruling parties using the correct terminology.
Pretty sure you’ve described neoliberalism in a nutshell.
You make a good point. I don’t give them enough credit for their performative politics.
God, this is cringe. Like, it’s embarrassing to be on the same team as them.
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It’s the consultancy class, mostly. Corporate money.
Being the lesser evil means never taking action. Never taking action means nothing difficult for Amazon ever happens.
It’s because we aren’t on the same team
Did they all just do a superhero landing? That shit is hard on the knees.
Honestly a little impressed they were all able to kneel and get back up at all.
Those topics are simple and easy to understand.
Understanding the long arc of the oppression of the labor class and the systemic design failures of US Healthcare is hard and the explanation won’t fit in a TikTok.
White American liberals in a nutshell
Yeah, all the word policing kinda feels like a psyop because it’s stirring up a lot of conflict without any real benefit. Controlling what words are ok doesn’t make people respect the ones hurt by the words, and ultimately it’s the disrespect that causes the hurt, the words are just the manifestation of that.
Like with disabled people, pretty much every word used to describe them has become an insult and any new word will just suffer the same fate pretty much the same day it gets popularized.
But the argument itself is polarizing, though in a way that makes the other side shut up about it until they can find like minded people. And might end up joining MAGA because they think it’s about trolling people policing language and words like “woke” end up having very different meanings to the different groups (one side sees it as a respect for all regardless of background or capabilities, the other sees it as a drive for censorship) to the point where people supporting the other side seem “evil”, which then means that as MAGAs wake up and see it is about more than just policing words, their opponents are more likely to tell them to fuck off than.
And that’s not even mentioning the people who take the stance “my racism/sexism is ok because it’s against the race/gender with more power”, and the people who treat non-malicious acknowledgement of differences between genders/races/cultures the same as malicious ones and no fucking wonder there’s strong opposition.
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Do they still call this thread-jacking?
Don’t be the vegan at the party, dude.
Nah, this is why it’s important to make sure “vegans” are at your parties.
As Talleyrand once said: “An important art of politicians is to find new names for institutions which under old names have become odious to the public.”
What, and give up purity testing? That would eliminate 90% of our recreational outrage and give us time and energy to actually do something. Can’t have that.
I’m gonna say something bold:
Surprisingly not a problem for some shows, good example is Simpson golden age.
There is a gay episode but it’s mostly about Homer overreacting.
A lot of the satire of Simpson is trying to be functional in a dysfunctional system, which has aged like the greatest wine that frank grimes can’t afford.
We can put King of the Hill in that camp as well I think.
I think it’s a better and more rounded show than any of them.
It’s a bit awkward, because Kahn was Toby Huss doing a problematic accent, but is also generally praised for representation of SEA culture.
Oh yeah, I love that one! It makes fun of everybody! In good taste too. XD
Sorry Mr. Burns, but I don’t go in for these backdoor shenanigans. Sure, I’m flattered - maybe even a little curious… but the answer is no!
It was the best of times; it was the ~ B L U R S T ~ O F ~ T I M E S ~
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Apu is tough because I know at least a dozen people just like him who own their own store and are somehow behind the counter every single time I walk in.
I heard Frank Grimes didn’t even go to space
I watched Cheers a while back and was surprised at how well it’d aged. Sitcoms are a second-monitor show for me, so it’s possible I missed something, but overall no episodes gave me the Ick too badly.
I had a hardcover book sitting on my shelf. Got it at a yard sale a while back. “The 13 Crimes of Science Fiction,” it was published in 1979 and most of the stories are much older.
The level of racism was pretty amazing. One story referred to a mugger as a ‘black buck’ Another was set centuries in the future and had an anthropologist keeping some ‘primitive’ people in high tech chains and cages.
Agatha Christie is probably one of the most popular writers of the 20th Century, and one of her classics is now published under the title “And Then, There Were None.”
If you’ve ever seen a movie, play, or game where a group of people are invited to a house only to be killed off one by one, you’ve seen something influenced by “And Then, There Were None”.
Generally the victims are symbolized by figurines on the mantelpiece which get gradually destroyed one by one as the murders progress, eventually leaving “none”.
The previously published title was the incredibly culturally insensitive “Ten Little Indians”, and the figurines were just that.
The original published title, in the UK, in 1939 - an era when we DID IN FACT KNOW BETTER was “Ten Little removeds”.
They did not change the title in the UK until 1985(!)
Is quoting Wikipedia now banned on Lemmy? I was under impression arsehole censoring mods here were mostly focused on removing mentions of Israeli genocide of Palestinians.
It’s automated. Instances can setup a list of words that will automatically get removed. Has nothing to do where it comes from.
Also, jordanlund is a mod himself, so…
jordanlund is a mod himself
I know 😁
Bots will automatically remove certain words regardless of context.
I used to see this all the time in the old Sega game “Phantasy Star Online” where objectionable chat was replaced with “*”.
So “Nice shoes!” became “Nice s****!”
You couldn’t arrange to play a game on “Sa****ay”.
And god help you if you lived in a “ba*****t”.
Or if your name was Nasser…
Same problem but when I migrated from Black Ops 1 to Modern Warfare 2 or something similar - couldn’t name my class containing assault rifles “assault”
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Dark Souls would do something similar with names in PvP. For the most part it wasn’t a huge deal but being a medieval fantasy game, a lot of players you’d face would be called “___ K***ht”.
I really thought you were talking about Elder scrolls, and was wondering how Khajiit would be censored (“haji”?) before my dyslexia kicked out
I still can’t figure it out.
knight
k***ht
Because it doesn’t make sense, DS and ER are overly censoring, my friend made a character, bowperson, it censors it to bo***rson
Black Knight? Great film
I wanted to make a lore friendly character name in elden ring but they censored the word finger…
Variations on the way we used to handle the Scunthorp problems are almost always amusing for how bad they were
I love how your experience with regex censoring comes down to Phantasy Star Online. It’s so on the money for you to use as a reference.
Truly king of the neckbeards.
It’s even worse in French: I read it in the early 2000s in high school and the title was “10 petits n*gres”. It seems they only changed it in 2020 😬
Worth noting that the original n-word version is the title was taken from a popular song at the time the book was published.
I point this out to demonstrate that this book title wasn’t a weird cultural aberration, it was plugging directly into popular culture of its era.
That book was translated to Finnish in 1940 with name “eikä yksikään pelastunut” (and no one survived), and it was renamed to literal translation to the ten little nwords in 1968!!! Until in 2003 they changed it back to the original
What’s wrong with the last one? Seems like a pretty standard critique of “science” as evil destroying humanity. In Brave New World they had reservations for the savages who still had religious beliefs, and it was a touristic attraction.
Seinfeld is in the top of my list. Kramer can show up in black face and they left the episode in but someone can’t be a dark elf in Community.
They also had Kramer making the Native American noises and stomping the Puerto Rican flag. Basically anything racist, they had the racist guy do. And it was okay because he looked like he had mental health issues.
That flag episode the joke was that everything he was doing was taken the wrong way. He had accidentally set on fire a flag that was behind him and tried to put out the fire, then someone shouts “Hey, there’s a guy stomping the Puerto Rican flag!” and he is chased by a mob…
It’s like that Monk episode where he has to shake hands with a lot of people from a group and the last one is black, and right after shaking hands with the black person he cleans his hands with rubbing alcohol, so everyone thinks he is racist and everything he does in the episode just makes him look even worse - because it was taken out of context (he is a germophobe, he cleans his hands with rubbing alcohol after touching anything and anyone).
The episode where he was in black face was also Kramer having an “accident”. Kramer is a device the writers’ had to make racist jokes.
If you want to do something racist just go backwards. For example, “Let’s have Kramer be in black face during a Martin Luther King walk! It’s okay becuse he didn’t do it on purpose!”
The writers created the situation. You can’t just say anything was accidental. That’s like those comedians that just keep saying, “It’s just a joke.” I mean look at Michael Richards’ infamous standup. Perfect example.
I don’t think I watched the blackface episode, but if it was an accident that caused a misunderstanding (basic comedy trope) the joke was on people being over sensitive and raging without knowing and/or purposely ignoring context of a situation (I could as easily say “if you want to do something racist, just claim it was a dark elf”). What was being criticized there became the norm, and the consequences are in this thread - people can’t say the name of that Agatha Christie’s work in the comments, nor you can have a dark elf in Community, because context doesn’t matter.
editing a day later: This was a half-assed argument, the shows did it just because it was funny. In all the cases people jumped to conclusions that were completely fair, people should be shooed for doing what the main characters were doing, but it was funny because it wasn’t on purpose, they got in a bad situation by mistake. However, the critique on this kinda of humor, and also satires and parodies that humorously references problematic stuff, because “offensive” is absolute value, is what led to “people can’t say the name of that Agatha Christie’s work in the comments, nor you can have a dark elf in Community”.
If i remember Cramer accidentally had to much tanning spray on his face(and didn’t look in the mirror I think) or something like that then went to meet his girlfriends black family.
Yes that was the black face episode I was referring to.
Chill out, it is just a joke. One you failed to understand.
The entire point of a reality sitcom is that it takes place in reality.
Reality has racists. Racism is part of life. There is a difference between a racist character doing a bit because that is what the character would do. Vs a show that is racist because the writers and directors are racist.
Comedy has done dark humor and racist humor for 1000 years. If you stop allowing it, then you unironically actually just empower actual racists because your now removing a tool to undermine the racism.
Yeah it sucks when the racist joke or bit is done poorly and lacks the context or nuance to either shine a light on a problem, subvert expections or point out a flaw in society. Thus coming across as just crass.
But not every attempt is going to land.
This is the point cancel culture misses (and I absolutely support some cancellations).
Throwing it back even further, Blazing Saddles is a great example of a writer/director and some of the best comedy actors of all time using racism to undermine racism.
I agree with you. I don’t believe in canceling shows. That why I don’t think removing the dark elf episode on Community should have been allowed.
But at the same time as allowing what was considered socially acceptable, I should be able to express my discomfort with content.
I have collected so many of the movies I remember fondly as a Gen X’er. From the ‘70s to the ‘90s. Holy shit the stuff I’d forgotten that was in them. Rape-y stuff, comments about underage girls and basically leering at them with tbe camera, suicides, misogyny, women as sexual objects and nothing else, racism… It’s bad. I’d started a movie or two with my kids and had a “oh no” moment when a part started that I’d completely forgotten about. Some of that still exists, but it’s there as a narrative and plot point about the character doing the shitty things rather than the casual and institutional way it was played before. Just goes to show you how times and people (can; some don’t) change. Some of that stuff was not unusual in life for me back then, I wouldn’t dream of it today.
Yeah I was pretty sure the key master/gatekeeper stuff would go over my kids’ heads but I forgot about the ghost-sex scene.
Ironically, other stuff with a high rating is actually due to blood/gore but the other content is pretty low-key. I’d rather they watch Terminator than a lot of the “funny” stuff
What we consider funny has shifted quite a bit, at least publicly and for decent people. There are still plenty who are perfectly fine with lowbrow racism and all that as far as what constitutes humor.
watching “scary movie” in 2025 makes you appreciate how much society has progressed in the past 25 years
I feel like every time I tried watching Big Bang Theory, I got this vibe.
“haha that guy is such a fucking nerd!” was virtually every laugh-track riddled joke.
You’re just not the target audience, as shown in this handy diagram:
I think Breaking Bad belongs in the middle one with Futurama because I don’t think it required intelligence to be entertained.
My first watch through was purely a “watch Hal do some crazy shit” where the action entertained and everything else was just an annoyance. I just didn’t care about the moral implications or whatever message the show was trying to make, I was happy watching an “outsider enters dangerous world he knows little about and fucks shit up”.
Second watch through I stopped seeing him as Hal and disliked him before the end of the first episode. If anything, he was more like Malcolm (book smart but otherwise dumb and entitled).
Though maybe that’s more just about BB being entertaining even if you aren’t the target audience.
Well god dammit I don’t know where I fall.
Hey that’s not fair to BBT, half of those jokes were “Sheldon is neurodiverse”
No! Stop! He’s not! - The showrunner for some reason
Because if you acknowledge that he’s autistic, then a LOT of the series becomes “laugh at a nasty charicature of a disabled person.”
That’s how the representation should be handled.
This guy is awkward but has all these friends, they laugh and sometimes don’t understand him but they’re still friends.
If the show could be that progressive about neurodivergence then it might actually be good.
He said hello hahahahhahahaa…hahahahahaha omg omg bro omg he said- he said hahaha he said HELLO hahahaha
I read your comment with a laugh track!
I will always defend BBT as 6 seasons of a great show dragged out and dumbed down for prime time. I think if someone went through it and discarded the filler jokes, arcs that go nowhere and excessive laugh track it could have been really good.
My wife likes the show as background noise and I’ve studied it. Theres some real relationship writing and some genuinely good character growth, some of the non “Ha! Nerds!” Jokes are actually pretty funny.
90’s
'90s
#weDoNotPluraliseWithApostrophes
but it belongs to the 90s! 👀
So it should be 90s’.
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That’s like, your opinion, man. It’s not a universally agreed-on rule.
New York Times Manual of Style and Usage (1999):
decades should usually be given in numerals: the 1990’s; the mid-1970’s; the 90’s. But when a decade begins a sentence it must be spelled out.
The Chicago Manual of Style (2003):
9.37 Decades. Decades are either spelled out (as long as the century is clear) and lowercased or expressed in numerals. No apostrophe appears between the year and the s.
Same goes for initialisms, e.g. CDs vs CD’s.
EDIT: to be clear, I prefer no apostrophe too, I just didn’t like the unnecessary condescension. One thing worse than a grammar nazi is a wrong grammar nazi.
The CD’s (singular) tracks and the CDs’ (plural) tracks. Or would it be CD’s’? That’s my one gripe with putting the apostrophe s for acronyms.
But then when talking about someone getting “all As” in school, it’s easy there to realize what’s being said, but when someone asks “What grades did you get in school?” And you respond “As,” now it’s just the word as.
Grammarizing spoken word is a major part of my job and I think about this shit all the time, and sometimes things conflict, and it’s dumb, it’s all dumb! That’s it!
But then when talking about someone getting “all As” in school, it’s easy there to realize what’s being said
Some would think that there is supposed to be a ’ in there but no, the additional “s” is simply missing.
I read your comment a few times before I understood it. Thank you
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And transphobic episodes of Family Guy and NCIS where Glenn’s ‘dad’ is a woman and Tony finds out on a date that she’s ‘a man’ and is speechless, disgusted and coworkers jibe him for it
Notably, the plot for Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
The ending scene is so rough these days. Kills the movie for me. The premise is “trans is disgusting” which is so much different than, say, the situation with Kramer stomping the Puerto Rican flag as an accident and being perceived as a racist. Context matters. And Ace Ventura really aged like milk.
Well, specifically the plot is that she was gender surprising everyone on the force. The ending reveals that her gun had dug into everyones hip at one point it would seem.
Writing her as that kind of person is definitely demonizing trans, but their reactions were the normal overblown homophobia of the time. Not trans specific. It wasn’t just the idea of her being trans causing the reaction.
The joke isn’t so much that ‘trans is gross’ but that he thought he was kissing a girl but kissed a man instead? And then he completely overreacted. Used a plunger on his face, which is obviously grosser than kissing a man. That’s the joke.
Also, the implication at the end is that she had been fooling around with many of them and they were all just realising her gun wasn’t digging into their hips either. It’s not just recoiling at the thought of a trans-gender person.
In real life, it’s normal to not ‘surprise’ someone with your gender. They should know full well and be accepting of what they are going to find long before it is revealed.
Of course writing her as having tried to trick most of the police force with her gender is for sure demonizing trans, and was also a ‘fear’ at the time. Like somehow trans people are doing it to ruin other peoples lives, instead of stop their own from being ruined.
Outside of that, it was the normal overblown reaction to homosexuality that was common at the time. Just in real-life cartoon style, which was Jim Carreys shtick. Plunger to the face is very much how a cartoon character would try to clean something off their face. Except it would probably pull their whole face off leaving it blank and they’d have a floating pencil draw a fresh one on.
I legitimately just went “Ace Ventura’s plot was transphobic? Ace Ventura had a plot? Oh yeah! Oh, yeah.”
My memory of Ace Ventura has boiled down to a few quick catchphrases and sight gags, I almost forgot it was a movie.
or that movie the crying game.
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I’ve also experienced the opposite. Watching shows/movies from the 70s and 80s and thinking, “this is woke af”
70/80’s were a period of time right after the civil rights movement, so they had to acknowledge racism existence as material. 90/00’s try and pretend that they live in a post racial landscape while the world still very structurally racist (I mean look at Clinton and the crime bill for the quintessential example).
If you were closer to the civil rights movement you had to engage with the fact that racism was real, and mockery contempt, absurdist, reductionist approaches work well for that
I like to watch BBC archive videos from the 60s-80s, and so much of it is relatable to today: angst about Russia, the US, China; cost of housing, and groceries; the horrible job landscape; government overreach and under-regulation
I really think that we as a species havent changed that much over the last 10,000 years
I think because we expect so much of that to be horrible, that when it isn’t we are pleasantly surprised.
yeah, for sure the breaking of expectations is a big part of it.
but i’ve also seen some stuff that would be denounced by the right as “DEI woke nonsense” even by today’s standards
Depends on what it was. Episodes of forward-looking shows like Star Trek or other series that tackled social issues in episodes are going to be wildly different than something like Revenge of the Nerds.
Indiana Jones is a tough watch. Had to turn it off after 30 minutes or so
Edit: Since a lot of people misunderstand me here.
This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the absolute pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. It still was an important part of the human experience for many. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that was not my goal when I watched Indiana Jones.
I loved Indiana Jones as a child, and wanted to introduce it to my wife as ENTERTAINMENT, not as an important cultural event that forever changed human culture.
Sexism, homophobia, transphobia and racism was normal in older movies, and one should not dismiss old culture based solely on that. Many films are too great to pass up, Indiana Jones is not what I would prioritize to watch despite these issues.
Hopefully your don’t take that approach to everything cause being unable to mentally get over the fact people were different at different points in history. Sure makes it damn well near impossible to be well read or learned.
You basically are willfully ignorant and blind to history. If you just can’t read or watch anything that doesn’t perfectly match modern sensibilities.
The sheer glut of fiction that is so unbelievably foundational to modern literature that is beyond racist and sexist. Is uncountable.
Of course not. This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that is not my goal when I watch Indiana Jones.
It’s not even a good movie to begin with, no need to give it a pass on the sexism and other issues
No kidding! I see you’re getting down voted since it was a beloved classic, but I encourage people to rewatch it. And Temple of Doom was so much worse. My whole family was blown away by the sexism and racism when we watched it again last year.
He’s getting down voted cause judging past eras by modern standards. Is about as brain dead fucking stupid as you can get.
The majority of all works are sexist, racist or have some form of hate in them. Because that’s just history. People were what they were and the faults of the past or the failure is of the writers who created those works. Do not make the works lesser.
Indiana jones is factually still one of the most defining films in history. While it’s entirely their right to not watch it because they find it not palatable. That is a personal opinion and choice.
But to say the movie is bad because it contains things that they cannot stomach is just not accurate. The movie is accurate and true to the era. It takes place in if it did not contain sexism or racism in instances and circumstances where they would be in fact called for given the time frame. And the movie would just be bad.
People were different in the past. People of today. Need to get the f*** over that.
I agree.
When we were a young married couple decades ago, we’d check out movies from the library on VHS tape. One we loved was Topper. In the VHS transfer, there was a line from the protagonist giving “good advice” to another main character: “You haven’t lived until you’ve beat your wife.” In all earnestness.
That line was mysteriously missing from the DVD and all subsequent versions I’ve seen.
I think it is detrimental to society to whitewash shameful past behavior. We need to acknowledge it, remember how bad things have been, and respect the progress that has been made. It also helps us reflect on ways we might be acting now that could be viewed as horrific or backwards in the future. It helps drive continuing progress.
Dire Straits’ “Money For Nothing” has a couple lines that often aren’t broadcast.
That’s interesting, just looked it up assuming I had likely heard the uncensored version at least once in my life, curious what could be removed from it. But yeah, turns out I have never once heard the full version. That is a very good example.
Eh? What are these?
The third verse, which starts about 1:50 into the song. Repeats the same homophobic slur multiple times, it’s possible you know the version of the song where that is just lifted out.
This is Indiana Jones, something I watch purely for entertainment, its not very entertaining to watch him berate and belittle a overly hysterical depiction of a woman for a full length movie. It’s not as if this is the pinnacle of human culture, its a movie series made for entertainment. If my goal is to get a glimpse into how culture was earlier, then sure, but that is not my goal when I watch Indiana Jones.
Yes, the sexism is so incredibly obvious. Probably the racism too, but I either did not notice too much or did not watch enough of it. I used to love those movies as a child
Temple of Doom/Indiana Jones is sorta loosely based on the TinTin comics, which Spielberg later made a movie of also. The whole thing seemingly takes place in the 1920’s when those comics did, and that depiction of India is right in line with the 1920’s and how it would have been depicted then.
best thing that came out of temple of doom was the video game.
Yeah, also Indy canonically had sex with a 15 year old when he was 27.
90s? I went into my rewatch of How I Met Your Mother knowing it was problematic, but the entire show is basically just one long sexist joke with a disappointing ending.
Don’t forget the sexual violence too
yeah i watched this show as kid with my dad and we both enjoyed it a lot (and i idolized Barney, although mostly his suits) but looking back theres so much sexual coercion and blatant lying for sex that idk if i could stomach the show nowadays
Think this is a great example of overton window shifting
“Overtone” is a thing in audio processing. You’re thinking of Zip-a-tone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
I did have a typo on my comment. Fixed
No no, Zip-A-Tone is a brand of adhesive-backed screentone sheets for artists. You’re thinking of Acetone.
No, Acetone is paint remover. You’re thinking of Italian cake in a box.
No, that’s Panettone. You are thinking of a 5 note musical scale.
big in music performance, composition, physical instrument design, etc as well
i would be surprised if there are more than a few musicians above a typical high school level that don’t have at least a surface level understanding of overtones
at least in wind/percussion instruments, i have no idea about vocal people as i’ve never done any of that
“We made a joke about how the main character should date people of their own gender, which is very, very funny!”
Typical 90’s experience…
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Thing is it has to be done in an actually funny way, while many of these old shows just throw in a “fuck <group of people>” as the entire joke
Same, ain’t no idea in this world beyond humor.
You must be fun at parties 😴
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Thanks for proving it
