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    In economics, a network effect (also called network externality or demand-side economies of scale) is the phenomenon by which the value or utility a user derives from a good or service depends on the number of users of compatible products. Network effects are typically positive feedback systems, resulting in users deriving more and more value from a product as more users join the same network.

    The value of Twitter and Substack isn’t the HTML or the CSS, it’s the social circle behind it. That’s why Facebook, founded as a Harvard social media site, outpaced Friendster and MySpace. That’s why half your current crop of comedians and media pundits came out of the Ivy League. That’s why The Federalist Society exists.

    Like, by all means, make a new BlueSky or Mastodon or Lemmy whatever. Thank you. But “What if we had a new Facebook, for annoying marketing dweebs?” it’s how we got LinkedIn. And a thousand other knock offs of LinkedIn.

    So, keep that in mind.

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      Add to that section 1201.

      Facebook grew because it was able to make migrating away from Myspace easy. Facebook supplied a tool called SpaceLift that logged into MySpace on your behalf and moved messages back and forth for you. It meant that you didn’t have to leave Myspace behind when you started using Facebook.

      If you tried that today, Facebook would send their legion of lawyers to crush you using section 1201.

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      I would love a social media app focused more on normal people networking and building communities. It’s a shame something so potentially useful like that has been twisted to divide and isolate us.

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    I miss the old days of people making niche websites for their hobbies, their own blogs, and message boards.

    So many people think of the Internet as Google, Meta, Netflix, or <favorite social network here>. That makes me sad.

    I don’t see a way back to a less commercialized internet, but little pockets of goodness like Lemmy make me happy.

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      You’d think that with QR codes every-fucking-where these days, that we could easily swing back to everyone having their own website. Back in the bad old days, it was hell on wheels to share URLs with folks. Now? There’s nothing stopping us.

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      The thing that I’ve repeated more than anything else the past 5-10 years:

      I miss websites.

      [Edit] ok second most. I think I’ve said “RELEASE THE LIST” at least twice as much.

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        I miss things spreading by word-of-mouth, not The Algorithm.™

        I miss people making things for fun, not for the exit strategy.

        I miss misinformation being called out and bullied mercilessly, not rewarded for Engagement.™

        I miss Nazi being hyperbole, not an alternative viewpoint we’re supposed to acknowledge as valid.

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          I remember The Blues Brothers and “I hate Illinois nazis” and John Belushi and Dan Akroyd running the fucking nazis into the fucking river. The sad thing is, that shit was universally funny back then - there weren’t people in the theater saying “hey wait a minute, that’s not respecting their free speech rights” or worse, “hey, what’s so bad about Illinois nazis?” Just straight up “of course they drove the nazis into the fucking river”.

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          I miss stumbleupon. I found so much cool stuff and web comics I’m still reading 20 years later.

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    First name choice was “The internet”

    Second name choice was “The pornography machine”

    They have forgotten our provenance and purpose. There is no pornography sullying out social media. There is social media sullying our pornography.

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    It’s good more people are realizing, buts substack’s owners have been openly pro-facist for at least a year

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    We have always lived in slums and holes in the wall. We will have to accommodate ourselves for a time. For, you must not forget, that we can also build. It is we who built these palaces and cities, here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers. We can build others to take their place. And better ones. We are not in the least afraid of ruins. We are going to inherit the earth. There is not the slightest doubt about that. The bourgeoisie might blast and ruin its own world before it leaves the stage of history. We carry a new world here, in our hearts. That world is growing in this minute.

    Buenaventura Durruti

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        Pfft tables, the pro move is to add more & nbsp; until everything is aligned

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        My first dummy intranet site for grade school used it, but it was a new technology at the time. I remember having a site on geocities a couple years earlier that was all wysiwyg and only used text. Back then, email was cool.

        Internet nostalgia.

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        I never understood why seemingly everyone uses WP. ‘I need a personal, but professional, web presence’ ‘use this blogging platform’, ‘I need an e-commerce site’ ‘use this blogging platform’ like what.

        Maybe I’m old and WP now does everything and the kitchen sink, but I was there when it started and made no sense.

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          It’s true. They got through some gnarly WYSIWYG problems and, yes, due to plugins they basically do have the kitchen sink available.

          There’s some good comparative alternatives as well, but I don’t know much about them yet.

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    It is all evolution in progress at every scale. Some people are already extinct but haven’t gotten the memo. To live is to change.

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      Some users were recently sent push notifications to highlight a neo-nazi substack that showed a swastika icon