• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    Even if his math is correct, it’s a stupid point cause our incomes haven’t matched inflation and that’s all that really matters.

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      Not to mention that gas is a larger part of the average persons budget than it was 72 years ago. We live in a car distopia without any good public transit. It’s also why looking at a single thing like gas prices is a dumb way to judge how affordable living is.

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      You don’t even need to bring income into it. Inflation is the whole point of the “things were cheaper in the old days” trope, if you adjust for inflation then all you’re saying is we’ve seen zero progress. Even on its own terms it’s still not a brag.

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    Chuck Grassley is 92 years old.

    He was college age from 1951-ish to 1954-ish.

    Gas prices were $0.27 to $0.29 a gallon back then.

    https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-741-august-20-2012-historical-gasoline-prices-1929-2011

    Adjusted for inflation, that’s $3.37 to $3.49 today…

    https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

    Buuuuut… Another way of looking at it…

    The minimum wage in the early 1950s was $0.75/hr.

    https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/history/chart

    So a gallon of gas was between 36% and 39% of an hours worth of minimum wage work.

    The current minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. A gallon of gas at the current average of $2.847 is 39% of an hours worth of minimum wage work.

    https://gasprices.aaa.com/

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      Almost as if inflation is a function of energy prices, as everything we consume requires energy to produce and transport.

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        It couldn’t possibly be that the greediest of corporations in the world are those in the energy trust feeding its destruction!

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      Well … fuck, I just got done grabbing the BLS inflation calculation for .25 from 1973 and that’s $3.05 today but your post is just already here making me feel silly for even thinking about commenting.

      Cool stats though, it’s interesting to see how the cost has more or less stayed in line with inflation. I think that’s what you’d expect to see with most commodities from that time to now, but I’m also an idiot who got like a C in my macroeconomics class so I don’t really know.

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        … if only the most expensive things stayed the same ratio - like mortgage/rent, health insurance, retirement, college. Minimum wage is $7.25, rent costs $1.5k. Got an A in macro, but only a B in micro. I wonder what happened…

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          Yeah it’s wild how fucked our economy is.

          The divorce of worker productivity from worker pay leading to the huge wealth gap we see today is really bad for everyone but the 1%.

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          Those things have gotten more expensive and I don’t want to sound like I’m arguing just want to say that’s always been a problem with calculating inflation. Like I read about Jesus being betrayed for six preices of silver or something and that far back it’s really hard to say how much that’s “worth” comparable to today.

          But I never been to one of those fancy adult schools “snaps suspenders” so what do I know.

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    If my napkin math is right*, he was in college between 1951 and 1956; with gas ranging from .24 to .27 dollars a gallon.

    Adjusting for inflation that’s be about $2.40.

    Sunday I paid 2.90 at Costco. It seems he’s full of shit.

    (My napkin math is notorious for breaking the laws of physics. Best do your own… or else we might end up dividing by zero.)

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      It was 1953 @ $0.25/gal. The CPI puts that at $3.00 in 2025 dollars. So literally the exact price.

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        … now taking into account purchasing power, since earnings did not keep up with inflation he was still much better than us.

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      I’ve noticed that a common sign of dementia is thinking gas costs what it did decades ago. My step dad would be sent in to pay for gas and he’d come back thinking $10 was more than enough to fill the tank. This was when gas was $4+ a gallon.

      Chuck’s math is 25¢ a gallon. As you point out that is right about the price it was when he was in his prime. His post isn’t just about lying for Trump. It’s about mental decline.

      You may be asking why my step dad with dementia was being sent in unattended to pay for gas when you could pay at the pump. Denial by his primary caregiver was also a factor. Make him do as many normal things as possible and then be shocked when they didn’t work out.

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    But his math is correct?

    ¢25 in 1953, 72 years ago, is $3.03 when adjusted for inflation according to US Inflation Calculator.

    And the current gas price is $2.4 per gallon in Iowa where he is from. (Not sure where he went to college but whatever.)

    It’s ¢60 cheaper per gallon now, when adjusted for inflation.

    If he’s right about the price he paid, he’s also right about it being cheaper now.

    Surely Trump didn’t help during all these 72 years but the math is correct, even if the logic is flawed.

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        Welp, you gotta compare apples to apples.

        I added the detail about the gas price in Iowa, where this senator is from. Not sure if he went to college there but meh.

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          Yeah gas is weird because our subsidization and conflicts we create everywhere for it. For instance gas was at 3.25 in 2008 and 2.14 in 2016. It isn’t as simple as saying Obama did such a great job gas fell by 58% during that time (adjusted for inflation, though I think I just did Jan 1, so that’s not entirely accurate, but we get the point)

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            I can imagine the gas price is a very complex and complicated beast, indeed. 😵‍💫

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            That’s much worse, in Iowa, average real cost has about doubled since 1953

            Year Current Dollars Constant 2020 Dollars

            2025 $1,027 $808

            2024 $981 $807

            2023 $943 $801

            2022 $860 $761

            2020 $808 $808

            2000 $470 $724

            1990 $336 $661

            1980 $226 $688

            1970 $99 $585

            1960 $68 $516

            1950 $43 $397

            1940 $23 $370

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            The goalpost have now passed Voyager and is the man made object farthest from earth.

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    I’m sorry. “as a college student”, “72 yrs ago”. You guys really need to cap the age at which a person is allowed to make decisions that impact the lives of millions of people. Jeez, at least make cognitive testing mandatory.

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    Guys, why aren’t you giving Trump credit for 72 years of progress in petroleum engineering and decades of wars for oil?

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    Adjusted for inflation from '53 to today that’s like $3 per gallon. Converted to metrics I understand that’s like 0,68€ a liter. That’s that‘s about a third of what you pay in Germany these days (incl. tax) on a bad day. (Typically around 1,80€/l)

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      My version of ‘adjusted for inflation’ is to look at what a paycheck could cover.

      In 1960, the minimum wage was $1.00/hour and the average US home was $11,000.00 A high school graduate could own their own home. In those days, $1 million would buy you two fine homes, a fleet of cars, and enough left over to live off the income.

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          Merry Christmas.

          If you’ve never seen it, watch Marilyn Monroe in “How To Marry A Millionaire.”

          Two lines I always remember. The three gals walk into a Park Avenue duplex apartment and one gasps “This place must rent for $1,000.00 a month!”

          They go to a nightclub with a live orchestra and a twenty girl chorus line. “My God, the cheapest thing on the menu is $5.00!”

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    He’s a really fucking old ass dude. When he was 20 years old gas was around $3.05 a gallon if you adjust for inflation. It’s $4.50 near me right now.

    But hey, let’s talk about wages and electricity costs. Let’s chat about rent and the cost of a house these days. Let’s see what the cost of goods and groceries is doing. Most of us need computers, so let’s talk about RAM and SSD costs under this regime that just dereguated AI and is nullifying state AI laws.

    It’s all worse.

    Edit: let’s just do the first two.

    1. prices for electricity are 938.39% higher in 2025 versus 1953
    2. prices for rent of primary residence are 1,177.60% higher in 2025 versus 1953