

Ok, reading this it will be replaceable by a ‘generalist’ which can mean anything really. I guess we’ll see how many phone makers will use this rule to still soldier in the battery. This exemption looks pretty stupid.


Ok, reading this it will be replaceable by a ‘generalist’ which can mean anything really. I guess we’ll see how many phone makers will use this rule to still soldier in the battery. This exemption looks pretty stupid.


It’s more about maintaining infrastructure than ownership. If you buy a game on Steam and Valve can later delete it from your library it’s about ownership. If a company shuts down the central server and the product stops working it’s more about planned obsolescence. The same issue affects many IoT devices, not just video games, and I think protecting those is more important as it affect more consumers and generates e-waste.
But I know stop killing games just gets a lot of coverage on lemmy because there are a lot of gamers here. I’m sure people also write petitions and talk in EP about more important topics like climate change and human rights.
I once haggled over a hat with some street salesman in Arabic. Managed to take it down from 10 to 8 dirhams. Then I felt bad from haggling over 50 cents with a guy that probably ears in a year what I make in a week. I still have the hat though.


Would be smarter to say he will absolutely not arrest him and then arrest him anyway.


If only people were willing to fight this hard for important things…


The first article you posted is from a week ago.
You’re right, I pasted wrong link. There are plenty of older articles about this though. Not surprising since the law is from 2023. Funny how bunch of sites decided to write about it right now.


Where did you take this from?
The rules I found (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=OJ%3AC_202500214) say that:
“Appliances specifically designed to operate primarily in an environment that is regularly subject to splashing water, water streams or water immersion, and that are intended to be washable or rinseable, may be designed in such a way as to make the battery removable and replaceable only by independent professionals”
It’s in Article 11 here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/1542/oj/eng
I don’t see any info about this being amended later.


But USB c chargers is already a rule for a while, no?
Would be great for people that love yogurt.


This was voted like 2 years ago. Why it’s in the news now?
Here’s an article from a year ago about the same thing: https://euroweeklynews.com/2026/04/17/new-eu-phone-rules-could-change-the-way-you-buy-your-next-mobile/
The law itself is from 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2023/1542/oj/eng
So I guess it’s just a yearly reminder.


So what changes? They will have to fix old phones now?


There’s limit to what I’m willing to pay extra to be more green.


Totally but year or two ago you had to pay ~2.5k for a Framework and ~1.3k for a similar Slimbook. That meant that even if you dropped your Slimbook you could just buy a new one and it would still cost the same as the Framework. The selling point for Framework was that you could upgrade it but why spend more money to upgrade a laptop when you can just a Slimbook and buy completely new Slimbook couple years later for the price of one Framework? Now that the difference is about 500 euros it makes sense.


Shitty neighbors are a separate issues. It’s up to the landlords and residents to solve this.


Yes, totally.


Gonna be weird in like 2050 when a 43 year old can buy smokes but a 42 year old can’t.
Exactly, how will they enforce it in like 10-20 years? Police will stop and check everyone who’s looking too young to smoke? Some young looking guy in his 30 will have to show his ID to cops all the time? Right now it’s working because shop owners enforce it, parents enforce it and you can generally spot kids when they are hanging out. Parents don’t usually buy cigarettes for their kids but what if a 30 year old will buy cigarettes for their friend or spouse that’s 29 and can’t legally smoke?


Yes, public spaces too.


I’m not saying it’s all or nothing. I’m saying that banning things that raise healthcare costs is silly. Lots of people do things that raise healthcare costs. I don’t think that smokers should be punished for raising healthcare costs while I’m allowed to practice high risk sports. It’s unfair.
What Norway did is completely different as it still leaves it up to people. You promote good habits, not criminalize bad ones.
Eggs taste better.