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    From the same party that wants to charge minority children as adults if they misbehave. Actual adults are just kids though.

    Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

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          Iirc (don’t quote me on this) during reconstruction after the Civil War many black Americans had little land (if any) and watermelon was an easy crop for limited land. Racist white people then associated the fruit with those they hate.

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            You got it, but you left out some details. The watermelon was actually a symbol of hope and prosperity for the recently freed slaves. The former slave owners, didnt like it. So, owning the media of the time, they started running ads showing caricatures of black people eating watermelon like animals. It took less then 10 years for the belief to become common that it was always a racist trope.

            See also, fried chicken. That one came from Birth of a Nation. Both of these racist stereotypes persist today. I know the black community in America wanted to reclaim the N word, but IMO, they should have reclaimed the Watermelon as the symbol of freedom and perseverance that it once was for that first generation of freed slaves who over came massive hurdles to make a life for themselves.

            To give you an idea of just how bad it was, there was a story about a woman who was a nanny for a young boy. When she was freed, and had to leave the boy cried and was utterly distraught that she was leaving. A few years later that young boy met his nanny again. The woman was overjoyed to see him and asked if he’d like to share some watermelon with him. His reply? “I dont eat n***** food.”. Thats the power of the media, and then it was only a few newspapers. Just imagine what its doing to us all today.

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    They’re not joking. They’re literally starting a genocide and a fascist military police state in front of our eyes

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      For a decade, I have been begging anyone who will listen to believe Trump et al. whenever they threaten someone. I swear that the only time Trump tells the truth is when he promises violence, retribution, or lawbreaking.

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      I wish the media outlets would publish pictures of them they didn’t pull from Linkedin but actual, social-media pics of these asswipes in their average, every-day, stained house-clothes and hoodies. It may seem superficial but these are the kinds of people who are deeply insecure about themselves and it would do far more damage than exposing their stupid conversations. They’re NOT ashamed of what they said, we have to understand that. If anything they are delighting in the attention.

      These are just 4chan trolls who matured got older and managed to get a foot in the door of actual political action. While I don’t believe they are more serious in their beliefs than any 4chan self-proclaimed nazi, they are definitely going to empower the actual intelligent fascists and monsters who crave power. Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects would weaken them in the arena of aesthetic performance and aspirations for leadership in the party.

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        Showing them as basement trolls and tubby, pathetic social rejects

        That’s what these pictures are though, they’re just in suits. I find the fact that they’re all in suits hilarious. Dude is what, 23 and has the same build that 79 year old Trump has.

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      Yes, as always, the master race: fat, balding, and utterly insignificant without the inbred assurance that their skin color is some kind of achievement.

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        It’s ironic that the greatest achievements of the white “race” (race in quotes since it’s not a real thing) have been in the realm of technology, yet the most advanced thing these inbred fucks have ever achieved is mounting big flags in the backs of their trucks.

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          Know what you’re getting at and you seem to address this but I wouldn’t attribute any achievement to the white race. That feeds into the Nazi narrative. Every achievement is an adaptation of or a step forward from ancient human wisdom. The concept of zero, which is foundational to all modern mathematics and technology, was derived from the spiritual and philosophical practices of people in South Asia. The precursors of the printing press were developed by people in China partly due to the rapid expansion of Buddhism creating a high demand for sutras.

          Many of the mathematic “developments” of Fibonacci, for example, were already known in the Arabian peninsula, after having been transferred from South Asia and further developed. He learned Arabic in order to being them to the West. The infinite series for trigonometric functions (precursors to calculus) were also known in South Asia and the Arab peninsula before being ?discovered independently in Europe (its unknown if this knowledge transferred).

          Finally I’ll end with the fact that both the industrial revolution and enlightenment occurred on the back of colonial exploitation. It was the relative luxury and advatantage of having people working the fields in a distant nation that allowed for the technological development that led to the industrial revolution in the west. It was the relative luxury, at the cost of back breaking labor in the colonies, that allowed for people to meet in salons and cafes and discuss/propogate enlightenment values. There’s some debate that enlightenment values may have developed in part due to contact with Indigineous people in the Americas since precivilization cultures are inherently more egalitarian and democratic (as communal interdependence is absolutely crucial to survival).

          My larger point is that these are human / global achivements. The idea that no attribution can be given to those who paid for them in their blood is an imperialist one. And the last thing we want to do is empower fascists / imperialists.

          You’ve already acknowledged so just expanding on your point!

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          The very notion that someone would take some kind of credit for technological advancement because they share a similar skin color with a random visionary makes me want to communicate non-verbally with these douche bags in a very forceful way.

          If you catch my drift.

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      He said “Missouri don’t like f**s.”

      When I was growing up and people were referred to as “f***y” for how they looked, he would have been called that.

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        Thank you.

        I’m stunned.

        The right will boys will be boys this shit until the skies fill with the smoke of voters.

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          Vance already said it was kids doing dumb kid things. They’re not kids. They’re adults. If you’re old enough to vote, your a freaking adult. If you can fight and die in the military, you’re an adult. You never see anyone say oh those are just kid soldiers doing kid soldiers things. No because they’re adults who are responsible for their own actions and words.

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          I’m stunned.

          I’m not. Kids did this shit all the time in middle and high school. These people just never ran into any kind of push back or experienced maturity

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            My husband is a high school teacher. He’s had more than a decade of students saying Nazi shit in an attempt to be “edgy.” They seem surprised when he calls them out on their bullshit. His response has made a few (probably too few) of them think twice about how people perceive them because of their words.

            Last year was the first time he had a student who spouted that crap because he actually believed it. I think he has a couple of students now who actively identify as fascists. Times, they are a-changin’.

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                Sometimes it’s “being edgy just for the sake of it isn’t cool. Don’t be an idiot; people fought wars over this.” Students generally respect him, so once they realize he doesn’t play that game, they stop doing it in his classes.

                If it’s a specific kind of bigotry, he points out that someone important to him is black/gay/trans/an immigrant/etc, and asks the kid if they’ve even met someone in that group. Most of the time the kid hasn’t and they’re just parroting things they’ve heard at home or online.

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                  That sounds like a really good strategy, I like it. Also he must be a good teacher to be respected like that. Thank you both for being the good guys.

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              None of them were kids

              They all were at some point.

              If, as kids with this mentality, were never punished or corrected it just carries over.

              For a lot of these 4chan-tier chuds, the behavior was likely rewarded and encouraged. That’s how you get Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes tier freaks. We are quite literally paying these people to exist and reproduce.

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    I think the worst part of all of this, for me, is how unfunny it all is. Like goddamn, they are so bad at humor.

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    this is a perfect example of just because it’s well known doesn’t make it fact.

    now that there is evidence, it’s a fact.

    Republicans are a party of Nazis.

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      The question remains: What are the real americans going to do about it?

      It’s not going to get better by itself, and the rest of the world can’t just come over and fix it.

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        They have to be run out town and any that have acted on their murderous desires need to be tried for their crimes. It makes more sense why USAID was shut down though. These people are part of a death cult and the conspiracy theories are just an attempt to sanitize the murderous plans to gullible people.

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        a third of Americans voted for this and another third couldn’t be assed to stop it. this is what “real Americans” want

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      … were you guys not watching us politics this entire time? why are yall surprised about this group chat?

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    I’m getting so fucking tired of libs’ satisfaction with hypocrisy. We already knew these people were Nazis, they’ve always fucking been Nazis. They say they aren’t because gaslighting is a fascist tactic and open support of Nazism doesn’t ring with racist middle class people who only have their internalized values to run on. Whenever chuds are caught lying there’s thousands of lib gotcha posts like it’s a victory.

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      Why do people on Lemmy always find a way to make everything about liberals? That’s what I’m getting tired of. Whenever something happens, people come up saying “well yeah, liberals suck”. How is that better than the thing you’re arguing against? If you’re tired of “satisfaction with hypocrisy” of one group, what is your prefered group doing? Is there someone actually doing something about it? Because I only see people writing stuff on internet forums, regardless of their affiliation.

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        1. Liberalism is hegemonic and its subscribers wield the greatest power over society.
        2. Something being bad is not dependent on something else being good.
        3. Everything that alleviates the harm of this system on me – voting rights, property and employment protection, food regulation, socialized Healthcare, socialized education – was all won with the blood of anarchists, socialists, and unionists.

        My “preferred group” – whatever the fuck that means – is currently fighting liberals, as we’ve always done.

        Now fuck off.

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    Fucked that they don’t even have to exaggerate. The literal quotes are so absurdly vile that they can’t be outdone.

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    It says so much about the Republican Party that they’re defending these limpdick fifth-graders instead of saying: “You know what? We don’t like these pathetic little shit-stains either.”

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      You should also be aware that the group accepts people up to age 40.

      So the framing that these are children or teens is also misleading.

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      The Young Republicans weren’t lying when they said calling their opposition candidates white supremacists might work against them.

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    As long as on person is stupid enough to buy their bs they will continue doing it … :/

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    I dont know. On one hand we have cunts wearing red hats and chatting shit about “men in dresses”. And on the other we have blue haired land whales chatting shit about how being “male and pale is stale”. I think everyone is just a cunt at this point. And while we dont have an easily recognisable name for it like “nazi”, the other side of the CULTure wars would be every bit the horror show the red hat wearing pricks would be if left unchecked in power.

    Yeah, thats right. Im both sidesing this mother fucker. I dont care what tragic cult script youve got lined up, ready to go. The fact is, anyone who takes part in the culture wars is a cunt. No ifs, no ands, no buts. Red hats and pick up trucks, or blue hair and septum rings. Youre all toxic and cringe.

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      Bernie Sanders: Total Blue Haired Land Whale. Can hardly hear him talk over the clank of all his facial piercings. Trynna give everyone healthcare and stop the tidal wave of money rushing out of the pockets of working people into the ever expanding hoards of billionaires. So problematic.

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            I wouldnt know who the worst or best is, I just know that being republican doesnt make you a nazi anymore than being a democrat does. And thats really my point. All too often we see the worst example of something, anything, and one side of the dumb as fuck culture war grabs on to it for dear life like its an example of the whole group.

            I mean, people do make the connection just being white makes you a nazi. Do you agree with that? Does being American make you fat and thick? Does being British mean you dont know what toothpaste tastes like? Does being German mean you make gay scat porn? Does being a woman mean you want kids? Does being a man mean you like power drills? Does being gay mean you dont like sports? Doest being straight mean you do like sports?

            I want people held to account for their own actions. Thats it. Thats the world I want to live in. Not this bastion of virtue, where everyone is just a cunt based on whatever other cunt they share something with.

            And Id also argue that Bernie was a poor example. As that man is not part of the culture wars. Hes left wing in a country that has two right parties. He didnt celebrate the murder of Charlie Kirk, and instead spoke out against it. The culture warriors are nothing like Bernie. They are cult followers, looking to gain up arrows across various platforms to gain the illusion of self worth. Right, left, doesnt matter. Everything one side says about the other, can be said about both. Cancel culture, both sides do that. Rape and death threats on twitter? Both sides do that. It really doesnt matter what side you are on, if you are in the culture wars, youre already part of the problem.

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                  Nah, your a moron that’ll never learn. You hate information and truth and deserve 0 percent of my effort. Just Google your ideas and learn.

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              I really don’t see it this way. Sorry. The right wants culture wars to be done by government, the left wants culture to move towards a more fair and free society where people aren’t held back from opportunities because of biases around their identity. These are very different. And, no one in power on the left talks like those who in power on the right. The President has called half the country terrorists. Its insane and so much more one sided than you are saying.

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                I know you dont. Thats the problem. “The right” wants straight white males in all their tv shows, and “the left” wants straight white males to never be in any tv show again. Anyone who isnt part of the culture wars, just wants a good tv show/movie to watch.

                The issue with American politics is that you think you have a left wing party fighting for you. You dont. You never did. What you have is one party running rings around everyone else because they are going hard into the social media aspect of things. The dems arent. They are still holding the pocket of hollywood, or at least being seen to. This is the same hollywood that keeps on trying to lecture us on being good people, while ignoring sexual assaults because it helps their career. People, arent buying that shit any more.

                Then on top of that, you have cunts like Nancy Pelosi who are holding back people like Bernie and AOC who actually are the future and change that Americans have been screaming out for, for over a decade. Just last year that woman fucked AOC out of a committee seat that would have put her in great place to push for a presidential run. Maybe even as soon as 2028 but 100% for 2032. But because AOC wont play the game for the party leaders or their rich donors, she got robbed of a seat that was vacated for her. The plan was that the 60 year old guy would step down so that the seat could be filled by a someone young with new fresh ideas. But once Nancy found out, she made sure that the seat went to a 75 year old dude with fucking cancer. And he fucking died 4 months later! So instead of a 35 year old women in her prime that is, whether they like it or not, the future of the party. They inserted a dying fucking man. And you know what? They STILL wont let her have the fucking seat.

                Now go back to 2016. America is screaming out for change. On one side you have Trump, chatting shit about draining the swamp. On the other side you have Hilary… Who is part of the fucking swamp that everyone wants rid of. Bernie, who got fucked over by the DNC, would have beat Trump with ease. Even fucking Republicans were saying they would vote for Bernie. But no, because he wasnt going to bend the knee. If it wasnt for the Dems rigging that shit, the world would NEVER have known what a Trump presidency looks like.

                Now fast forward to 2020. Theres something like, 17 fucking dems up for the nom. It was a crazy number. But every single one of them, had a free healthcare plan for Americans. Including Harris, which is something to remember. Pelosi, told them all to take a big step back so that Biden got the nom. The bullshit they spun was that he was the only one who could be Trump. The actual issue? He was the only one that didnt have a free healthcare plan. He was happy to leave things fucked.

                Now its 2024, Biden is fucked in the head because hes old as shit. And Harris is just given the nom. But did you notice? No free healthcare plan anymore. It was replaced with some watered down shit about lowering insulin costs. And was she talking change? Nope. She was getting the hollywood fuck wits to rap about all the shit people cant stand about modern hollywood, while she went around business people making herself look like the perfect republican.

                If you wanna tell me that MAGA is full cunts, Ill agree with you. If you are trying to tell me that Dems are the heroes of this tale, well, sorry. But that just doesnt pass the sniff test.

                And this whole dog shit about a fair society is just that, its dog shit. Its about virtue signalling and hate and for some weird fucking reasons, asking 12/13 year old boys if they are gay or not…

                https://people.com/noah-schnapp-recalls-how-journalists-would-pry-and-ask-him-at-12-if-he-was-gay-11831652

                This is not fucking normal. This is fucking weird. And if this shit is the “progress” you are pushing, then Ill stand against until I die of a stroke or something.

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        No, Im surrounded by morons who think the worst version of a group is reprehensive of that whole group. You do it, they do it, everyone is doing it. Seeing this nest of nazi fuckwits is bad enough. But youre all treating it like its exposing the whole of the other side. Its the same energy that sees people say “the jews control all the money”. What, all of them? Every single Jew? Well, that must be some size of table they all sit round when talking about what to do with it.

        Next you’ll be telling me all black guys are paedos because Diddy is…

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        Of all the things you could have said to grab some free worthless internet points, that might just be the weakest. You can do better. I believe in you. Come on, dude. You got this.

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      Fully agree with you

      Most ultra leftists are horrible by themselves and would do the exact same thing, and a lot of the politically correctness bullshit from years ago caused many people to vote trump back then.

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          When Dani Lalonders said that she didnt hire white people because they “created unsafe working environments”, you all said that was fine. It was like a white woman saying she crosses the street when she see a black guy because she doesnt feel safe. Its racism then, but not when it was Dani. I wonder why that is? Why is it ok for some people to be racist, but not others? Could it be, because you are all in fucking cult? And the only real difference between you is the colour of whatever is on your head?

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              I dont know how you got that from what I said, but youre half right. Im Scottish. Im as left wing as you can get without sporting a shitty moustache. And thats actual left wing, not that right wing ghoulish shit you Americans pretend is left wing.

              I have zero issues with anyone coming here. The more the merrier. So, now what you got? What keen insights of the American fuck wit can I expect next?

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                bro I just realized you arent even the person i was originally talkkng to, who the fuck are you? I literally don’t care about your opinion but the guy I originally commented on. The guy I was talking to I am betting is a liberal right winger. Dont care about your stances

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                  It’s best to just block Benny, he’s not just a white European who hates immigrants, he’s a white European who hates immigrants, women, and anyone of a different shade than he is. He’s a proper cunt.

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        It’s a frustrating echo chamber here. I’m trans and there is tons of extremism from specifically other people in my community. I’m left leaning ( left leaning centrist? ) and people are too tribal when it comes to partisan politics to see the extremity on their ‘side’.

        The modern political landscape sees people othering their ‘enemy’. Understanding them as ‘dumb’ or ‘terrible people’, with a complete lack of empathy for their humanity.

        Republicans are people too, frequently misguided, and that’s a sad thing. I feel sad for them, they deserve my pity, they are lost.

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          Can you share an example of extremism from left wing politicians or senior party members in the US to illustrate your point? Because it doesn’t sound like you’re comparing apples to apples.

          This comic is making reference to real comments made by a real Republican group that’s existed since the 50s and is the national youth wing of the Republican party - many of the people exposed in the leaked chats currently work directly for senators and government bodies.