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    I get it, I absolutely respect someone wanting to be safe, but i think it would also absolutely ruin the date for me. I just can’t really interact the same way in a group as I do one on one. Either that, or I’d end upv mirroring both of them simultaneously and it would end up in a throuple.

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      I respect it, but i don’t get it, and it would be a complete deal breaker for me. What do you think a person on a date in a public place is gonna do to you?

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        right, this is basically saying “i don’t trust you not to spike my drink, take me to a second location, and rape me”

        and maybe you shouldn’t be online dating at all if that’s where you start out from

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          But even then, no one needs to ask you out on a date to do that. Any time you go out in public by yourself that could happen just as easily. If you’re that unreasonably fearful then i don’t want to spend time with you

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        Nope. Throuple is dating, threesome is a one-time thing. Like if my wife and I have a girlfriend, we would be a throuple. And if we all sleep together, it would be a threesome. But saying “throuple=threesome” is like saying “couple=sex” when the two describe fundamentally different things. One is the relationship between people, and the other is just a physical act.

        Nice condescending attitude though.

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    This is very common in Asia. The first few (not) dates they bring friends and you can too. Eventually, she gives an indication that she wants to do something alone with you and that’s when the real dates begin.

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      You make a good point, but considering that the conversation is in English I don’t think you’d be too far out of the pale to assume that this is not in Asia, and in most English-speaking countries it’s not common to go on group dates before going on individual dates.

      It does happen, and quite a bit, but not to the point where it’s common, I would say it’s at the very most uncommon.

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      I mean we have those too, they’re called double dates. Would have been less awkward if the lady here asked for one of those.

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        Double dates aware there is two couples. This sounds more like she wants to bring her friend on to make her feel more comfortable on a first date.

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      Guy friends in asian also hold hands and hang on each others arms. Not really something you see in the west

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        What an unprovoked comment.

        Wherever you live, there are also many cultural issues that are equally unrelated to what I said.

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        This reeks of casual bigotry you should perhaps analyze the thought patterns that lead you to writing this.

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    I had a girl bring a guy friend along on our first date without giving me a heads up for the same reason. I was like, ok that’s a little weird but whatever. I’m certainly not going to give someone shit for doing something that makes them feel comfortable. Ended up chatting it up with the guy friend who turned out to be super cool.

    So me and the girl end up seriously dating after a while and she later tells me that she spent most of our first date trying to subtly get her friend to leave so that she could spend more time with me.

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      If i invite someone out to dinner I pay. If someone invites me out to dinner I expect them to pay. However, I think in general in the US most men and women expect the man to pay.

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      This is an outdated expectation, although it could also be considered respectful on a date.

      I’ve heard that in restaurants in the USA you often give your credit card and they scan it and return it because they don’t have portable terminals. I’ve also heard that it’s often returned to the man regardless of name on card / who gave it. Both of these seem very outdated.

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        Smart servers just put the check and the card between the people if it’s not obvious who’s paying. I’m a great test case for this because my spouse and I both happen to have first names that could belong to a man or a woman.
        It’s pretty much random which one of us pays because we pool our money anyway.

        Often they drop the bill in the little book and we stick the card in the end of it and put it back on the end of the table, they come by, run the card and then come back….

        you can see the fear in their eyes sometimes, like “oh shit. This could be either one of them… 50/50 chance I annoy the one who’s writing the tip”.

        We’ve both worked service industry so we don’t care at all and tip well either way but it’s pretty funny to see the realization sometimes.

        Oh and, if it’s two people on a date (not a boring old married couple like us eating dinner) and there’s only one bill… 9/10 it’s the guy paying.

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    First dates are Dutch. Hard stop.

    Anything else is an escort, and at least double means something with them.

    You bring your friend, fine, but you or they pay for their meal and yours.

    I’m here to see if we match, not serve as a stopgap in the apts food budget.

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      Going to eat as a first date is bad anyways. Should do something where you are a not forced to sit in front of each other for a fixed amount of time. Why not go for a walk in a park, take a coffee or other things that are more “open”.

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        Means you pay for your own meal. Not sure why it where but probably some racist thing, I assume

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          More of a cultural thing, I think. From what I’ve gathered from a friend that lives in the Netherlands the dutch are pretty serious about paying for their own meals and getting people to pay for theirs. I even remember seeing a sketch made by some dutch people where one gives a bite of their sandwich to a coworker or something and then they tell the coworker that they’re owed x amount for it.

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    I had a girl ask if it was OK to bring a friend once, I said it was fine. She ended up coming alone anyway.

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          Its not really a mind game IMO, if he had said no she might’ve still gone with a friend. It’s not a test it’s literally just wanting a clue re safety.

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            Have you considered fearing all men isn’t a healthy way for an adult to live? And how is that level of prejudice shows through this action?

            Adults can go on a date in public by themselves. There are some men who will be hurt but still tolerant, and there will be some that find it offensive.

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    I’m cool with someone deciding to do this.

    I mean, I’ll decide not to go on the date, but that you do you.

    Your lack of ability to judge my character leading up to the date, and the general sense of paranoia leading to a decision like this, aren’t qualities I’m looking for in a partner.

    Neither is starting things from a place of outright suspicion. Like. I’m not judging. I just have zero interest.

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    I had a girl cancel and reschedule our first date shortly before we were supposed to meet up. That date happened, and she confided in me that she’d done that on purpose to gauge my reaction and general demeanor before actually coming out to meet me. I respected that move, and I think I would have been okay with her bringing a friend instead, as long as it was just the once.

    Anyway, that was eight years ago, we’re married now.

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      Nice that it worked out but deception and playing games would be a huge red flag for me. Nothing about that instance in particular, it’s just that I’d always wonder “is this situation for real or another trick?”

      Maybe the immediate followup fixes it. You were strangers then after all. And after eight years of course you know what you’re working with haha

      Damnit now I’m just rambling to myself, carry on!

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        I don’t think “begrudging women a single test to see if someone is the type to explode over a single inconvenience” is the right hill to stick your flag on.

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          Yeah, I’d say it’s a red flag except there are a ton of crazies that this quickly filters for them and keeps them safe from.

          So in an ideal world it would be bad, but it makes sense in the one we live in.

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    Last time a chick brought a friend with her, I got on better with the friend… And I went home with the friend. Pro tip, if youre bringing a friend. Dont make it a friend thats better to talk to than you are.

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    It wouldn’t bother me if somebody wanted to bring a friend on a date. However, I would communicate that it would change the dynamic into a “hangout” over a traditional “date” for me. The difference being that a date carries romantic intent and a hangout is for the sake of connecting with others without romantic expectations. Also, a hangout means everybody pays for themselves.

    This takes the pressure off by lowering the stakes since it’s now just a casual hangout between peers. It also has the benefit of making the third not feel excluded as a third wheel but a welcome part of the group.

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    It’s a test and you failed it by being weird and strange and obnoxious, just let her bring her friend it’s literally not a downside for you. She’ll feel more comfortable by bringing her friend which can only be a good thing for you.

    I don’t really consider myself to be particularly spectacular in the social department but even I wouldn’t have reacted like that. To be crass, why wouldn’t you want more girls on your date?

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      There’s a non insignificant amount of women dating only for free meals, and a lot of them expect men to pay for any number of friends. A lot of guys have opted for lower cost or zero cost first dates, like walks to screen for this.

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      I’ve never discussed who will pay before a date in my life

      Either this person in incredibly tactless or this is some kind of incel meme shitpost.

      Either way, whomever is passing it around seems to have a bone to pick.

      It wouldn’t even cross my mind as something a woman would assume a date was expected to do.

      Idk, really depends on the dynamic between them all. If they’re broke college kids and he’s an older person with a stable job and surplus cash? If he’s picking the restaurant to impress her, knowing she can’t afford it? If he already offered up thread in order to entice her out?

      But that makes the “date” feel more like a Sugar Baby relationship than a proper date. Also might explain why she feels the need to bring a friend.

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      Anyone afraid to go to an agreed meeting in a public place NEEDING a friend along is beyond weird

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        The friend isn’t there for when the date is in the public space. The friend is there for after to ensure the girl gets home safe.

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      Man, I think I’d prefer that outcome. Getting laid is easy compared to finding fun people to game with

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      If this had happened to me there’s a zero percent chance I wouldn’t have taken a shot at the threesome at some point.

      Opportunities don’t come along like this every day.

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        The dude is the only one who mentioned money.

        When he said he wasn’t paying she didn’t ask him to or imply that she was disappointed.

        This seems like the dude dropped the ball.

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        I dont mind that, so long as the food is cheap.

        My personal limit for that is ~20$, anything less than that and within reason, I wont question buying anyone food. Calories are important and im not going to judge people that quickly, have a pizza.

        I prefer to have that meal repaid in the future with an IOU or another meal rather dealing with money, also the social connections are more important.

        On the flip side, if I never see that person again. 20$ well spent.

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        Where do you see that from the picture? If he wants to make sure he is not paying for the third wheel, there are ways to say that without sounding like a total dick. She, on the other hand, doesn’t mention money or food at all. We simply do not know the whole story here.