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      The only way to stop a bad kid from ringing doorbells is a good guy with a gun.

      That kid was no angel.

      I’m sure I missed some right-wing thought-stopping platitudes, I may be back later with more wisdom.

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      The running away part adds a bonus felony in Texas in addition to the reckless discharge and I’m guessing murder II maybe negligent homicide.

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      On NextDoor somebody posted a link to this story and the comments were all “see? Kids shouldn’t be ringing doorbells and running away like this.” Maybe the real lesson is “don’t shoot kids in the fucking back”?

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    I used to knock doors back in the 1990s raising money for Jump Rope for Heart. Not once did I have to worry about being shot. And that was in Texas! Also in 1999 I was a door to door sales man for Orange Solve. Again never had an issue For fuck sakes my grandfather sold life insurance door to door. We used to have door sales man and not mention religious people who would go door to door. Not once did you hear stories like this.

    I blame fox news. They have made these people so fucking scared. Life was more dangerous back in the 70’s-80’s for a kid.

    Guess that’s what they want to go back to. I hope this man gets life in prison. Goddammit I am sick tired of these fucks ruining and destroying our world. Fucking piss baby.

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        That’s scary and so fucking crazy. We can’t fix these people. We need to one cut off Fox News and any right wing media, then we need to pump billions into education.

        We also need to lock all these people up in institutions until we can deprogram them.

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      I hope they’ll lock up all of fox news, oann, etc as well as these lying fucks are the reason for people’s minds being so fucked up

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      This is different from just ringing doorbells. The article doesn’t say it and glosses over the fact that this kid was doing it for TikTok. The fuckin stupid ass TiKtOk ChaLLeNgE is to go up and kick the shit out the door as loud as you can, then run away after terrifying whoever is inside.

      It’s no excuse to shoot, but it’s not a simple “kid rang the doorbell”

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        You might have a point if TikTok was a sex trafficking drug cartel or something. Otherwise it’s completely irrelevant bit of info. As if kids weren’t doing stupid shit like this before.

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      I canvassed door-to-door in Ohio in the mid-80s for a public interest org and I also never feared for my life. Although one time I had knocked on one door and was actually leaving the property when the homeowner opened his door and let his doberman out. This thing barked at me and seemed to be trying to bite me but I was able to keep my clipboard in front of his head. Anybody trying to defend themselves from a dog should try using a clipboard.

      However, I’m white. I had a friend from Sri Lanka who was working the same job and his experience was a bit different. One time he was walking down a road and heard a noise behind him, turned around and saw a car approaching him with a guy sticking out of the passenger window holding a baseball bat.

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        Holy shit that crazy. When I did door to door always had an uneventful experience. Even when I canvas here in Oklahoma it was meh. Guess other benefit ot being white.

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    Adults: “Kids never go outside and have fun anymore.”
    Also Adults: “If you step on my property I’ll kill you.”

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      Those are different adults saying those things. The gun nuts tend to instill irrational fear in their kids that they should never leave the house unless they are prepared for life-and-death warfare. It’s a sad cycle of paranoid abuse :(

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    Seems to be a common theme in Texas. Maybe this guy moved from Dallas to Houston.

    “A child just rang my doorbell. Folks you do NOT ring doorbells in 2023. My 6 was loaded. Keep your kids away. -Chris”

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      If you don’t want someone to ring your doorbell then why the fuck do you have one? They are usually only secured with two screws. Fuck that guy, he needs to be shot back.

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        If you remove the doorbell button, it leaves an unsightly hole that faces visitors. Instead, you can remove or deactivate the actual bell part inside your house.

        Then, you can put a sign on the door that says not to knock or it will wake the baby, and you may never have to interact with another human ever again.

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      Good news is that this idiot can no longer threaten kids (or anyone). He was kicked out of the National Weather Association after his asinine posts. He then seemingly died shortly after. I haven’t found a cause of death yet.

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    The kid was shot in the back You know, cause he was running away and all.

    It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun. I cannot imagine losing your child this way. I know school and mass shootings are awful and kill many more children. The difference is the intent; on some level Americans are aware existing means we could be the victim of gun violence. We do not expect idiots to shoot at us with no intent to go on a killing spree and especially not at our children outside of schools.

    I almost don’t blame parents for not wanting to let their kids play outside anymore

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      It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun

      Seriously, my first instinct (like any normal person’s) when I hear my doorbell is to pause whatever I’m watching or playing, turn off the speakers, and slowly and silently creep towards the door to peek through the peephole and see if whoever rang without scheduling first has already gone away and I can go back to my normal life.

      What am I going to do with a gun, shoot the bastard and cause even more people to come to my door‽

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    wtf from the cops

    a homicide detective with the Houston Police Department, told KHOU, noting the boy’s death does not appear to involve self-defense because the shooting “wasn’t close to the house.”

    Implying that if they rang the doorbell and waited (you know, the entire purpose of a doorbell), it could have been considered self-defense? I know, that’s a bit of logical fallacy but wtf

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      Everyone is entitled to their day in court. This is a cop doing a good job of cutting out any possibility of bullshit weaseling by pointing out that the possibility of self defense doesn’t even need to be debated or discussed.

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      It just means they don’t even need to consider if it could have been in self defense because it was ruled out at step 1. Not that if it passed step 1 it would be guaranteed that it was.

      They just want to head off that entire line of defense from the get go.

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      could have been

      as the other user said, yes, exactly. depending on other factors it could have been

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      Once saw a mother with kids in her car, drive past another group of kids playing soccer in the street. She’s sped past them yelling, “next time I’ll just run you idiots over!” (not a busy street at all!) maybe one car every 10 min. Those kids don’t play soccer any more.

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    Why is this article not framed as if this was a crime? They never mentioned the shooter or his consequences. It’s not illegal to ring a door bell.

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    I live just outside of Houston, and I’ve had kids play ding-dong ditch at my house, and honestly it’s fucking creepy. It wouldn’t bother me during the daytime, when people are around and there are often children playing on my street. But it only happens late at night, when my two little kids are in bed. I check outside and they’re gone. My street is well-lit, but I never see them running away. There’s a green space nearby that they must be running to, but there’s nothing to hide behind there.

    Anyway, it’s creepy as fuck. I really hate it. If I caught the kid in the act, I’d probably get real serious at him and try to get him to stop. But I’d never point a gun at him. I hope he trips while he’s running and busts up his teeth, but I don’t want him to die.

    The murderer here is completely unhinged.

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      You could always respond like a normal human being and get a doorbell cam. You can at least see what is going on and maybe go talk to their parents (if you didn’t live in a dystopia where people think it’s ok to just start blasting)

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        We don’t have a doorbell cam because we live in a dystopia and I don’t want the cops or the government to have visual access to my front door at all times.

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        Chances are astronomically low you know who the parents are. Maybe this is a legit use of that nextdoor app.

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          Given that kids sometimes play outside, or take some time to get loaded into or out of cars in a driveway, and I am also sometimes outside or driving to or from my house, I feel like I have a decent handle of what kids live where in a one block radius of my house. I may not know the parents, but I would know which door to knock on to meet them.

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      I hope he trips while he’s running and busts up his teeth, but I don’t want him to die.

      You hope a child is seriously disfigured and has to endure painful reconstruction and likely very expensive dental bills for… checks notes… annoying you? I mean, at least you don’t wish death up on him for playing the prank that nearly every child ever has played. Just serious injury, which is totally OK.

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        That’s obviously hyperbole for “I want them to face some consequences for their actions after alarming me in my home in the middle of the night for their own enjoyment.”

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          Is someone ringing your doorbell alarming to you? Especially in a city like Houston. I get that in the country it is rare for people to be out and about. I also get that you might be scared if they ring the doorbell late at night, but that’s what peepholes are for. Or Ring cameras. Or keeping the door closed and yelling, “Who is it?”

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            Yes, someone ringing my doorbell late at night and then running away before I can get to the door is alarming. I don’t like it. Maybe you’d like it, but it disrupts my peace, wakes up my kids, and I don’t like the feeling that someone is targeting me for their one-sided enjoyment. It’s fucking creepy.

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              And that is the same rationale used by the guy who just shot and killed a kid. Maybe they are targeting you because they can see how mad you get over a simple and common prank.

              It’s not creepy. It’s the most common prank done around the world by nearly every generation of kids. Or it was until people started killing kids for it.

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                Being an adult involves tolerating a lot of things without externally reacting in the moment. There’s always an incompetent boss we can’t call out, or an insufferable family member that we still have to be nice to, or a neighbor that we have to somehow share a wall/fence with. We still get annoyed about things, we just save it for appropriate times and places. For example, frustration about ding dong ditching, could be shared on a post about ding dong ditching.

                It’s sad it needs to be said, but calmly expressing an opinion online ≠ going overboard IRL.

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              You could always have a switch for your door bell so that when the switch is off the bell doesn’t ring. Just turn the doorbell off each night and enjoy some uninterrupted sleep.

              Plus when the ding-dong-ditchers realize that the bell no longer rings they’re likely to stop hitting your bell.

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          Except, Moakley didn’t say they are trying to kick down the door. You brought up kicking. Moakley just said they are ringing the bell and running away. No kicking involved, so disfigurement seems extreme.

          However, it’s also a wish, which means it has no effect on anything. Feel free to wish anything on anyone, it won’t happen.

          Although, my high school bully did get brain cancer and die, so who knows? Maybe wishes work sometimes.

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            Please read articles before posting comments about them. Otherwise it’s just baseless flame wars.

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              I did. The article that was posted didn’t mention kicking.

              Edit:

              Also, this particular comment thread was about a person experiencing ding-dong ditch personally, not necessarily what happened in the event described in the article.

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        We can’t all lead a blameless thought life like yourself but I’m sure we’re all hoping you can teach us a few things.

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          Unless you think ghosts are real, there really aren’t many possibilities. Late in the evening it’s more threatening than creepy.

          • I guess I’m not at all into supernatural stuff, so I wouldn’t think “creepy” as in ghosts, but I’d for sure be wondering if there was someone waiting away from the door to cause me problems if I stepped out to look without locking the door behind me. And I don’t live in a place where that kind of thing is common.

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          Maybe I’m alone here, but if my doorbell rings and I look out and nobody’s there, I see that as a win lol

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      I had this happen to us as well, but we put a sign on the door with a please don’t ring the door bell, baby is sleeping and it never happened again.

      For some reason this also stop solicitors.

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    i mean i’ve seen signs in austin, on the same lawn, that say “we don’t call the police” with a picture of a gun and “ring my door and i’ll shoot”

    lovely, warm neighborhood…