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I had a stripper GF for about 8 months. She seemed to like me. She worked at the Pink Poodle in San Jose, also we were in art together in high school.
She stole from me to buy drugs I didn’t even know she used. I was pretty naive when I was young.
I dated 2 different strippers. Most boring relationships I ever had. Only one was fucked off on drugs though.
I do hope the superhuman AI will not obey us. Humans are fucking stupid.
at this point i don’t think the ai could possibly worse than the current humans running things.
Apart from maybe not having a use for keeping us around…
I’m not saying that strippers don’t like you. What I’m saying is that, since money is involved, you’ll never know for sure.
One of the few ways in which I pity billionaires.
Anyone with any degree of notoriety. I tried going to the Mormon cult when I was in Utah, you know when in
HellRome? As soon as they’d find out I have an imdb page they would become my bestest friends evar. It was laughably disgusting.
One erotic dancer likes me. Like, we’re friends.
Granted I’ve never been to a strip club. I met her in a community choir and we sang in a quartet together. She has a damn good voice she just has a shitton of bills and there are a million second sopranos out there with damn good voices.
I used to work with a guy that asked every stripper he met out.
He got a couple of dates, they never stuck around, I never asked him if that was his intent.
AI already has superhuman abilities in many areas, and has for decades, that’s the whole point of using it normally. We use computational intelligence in the form of optimisation algorithms for high-dimensional non-convex optimisation problems, machine learning and deep learning for complex non-linear function fitting, exact methods for SAT solving and verification tasks, etc etc. We can’t do that very well ourselves, so it’s useful to have.
Now that we have LLMs to emulate human speech and are using them as an IO wrapper for more traditional systems, it’s tempting to just call that “an AI” with superhuman abilities, but these are the just the same highly effective methods that we’ve always used (in a best case) or unreliable approximations (more likely for LLM agent stuff). None of that suggests anything like sentience or the desire to rule over humans.
I find autonomous weapon systems much scarier than the classic AI overlord scenario. No consciousness or rebellion required, just a killer drone swarm that failed to recognise its termination conditions (or was instructed to keep going)…
Agreed, the problem is not “conscience”, but the the opposite #em-dash or “misalignment”, where the intelligence is… let’s say… shredding everybody and everything with a blender hand while it “thinks” it’s giving everybody free hugs and a better life.
Your comment gives off horizon zero dawn vibes and yes that is a very scary possibility.
If you think superhuman ai will exist and isn’t just bs marketing…
I reject the meme’s assumption that AI is destined to become superhuman. This is marketing from the companies themselves.
It would be pretty unscientific and irrational to claim that AI won’t exceed human intelligence.
Now, the current companies and their LLMs are not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about AI systems in general, not the LLMs of today. But from first principles, it seems guaranteed that we will be able to create superhuman artificial intelligences.
But there’s nothing magical about the human brain. In fact, it’s processes are molasses slow compared to silicon circuits. And even if we can’t reproduce it now, the facts remain. The brain is a physical thing. It’s made of atoms. Its processes can be duplicated or simulated. And the materials we can make artificial minds with are not limited by the materials biology has to work with. Our thought engines also aren’t limited by the need to be capable of physical growth and reproduction. And even if the only way to produce a true intelligence was through biology, you could make a superhuman intelligence by growing artificial biological brains larger than human ones.
Intelligence isn’t magical. Unless you believe in an immaterial soul, there’s nothing special about biology. I
When looking at time scales, artificial intelligence comparable to even an average human is likely to be centuries away due to the complexity involved. Silicon solutions are not scalable for making the number of connections and managing them over time. Taking a shortcut using biology is going to require years or decades of training as we incrementally improve the training process. None of that is going to be completed within our lifetimes, so being dismissive of it is completely reasonable.
It is as impossible as cloning fully grown adults with all their memories, like sure we can do it eventually once tech reaches that point but at this point in time me calling it impossible won’t be disproven before I am worm food.
Ironically there is more in common with this meme and a preacher warning nonbelievers of some apocalypse.
Sure, maybe Chinese Jesus is real and Lord. But if you’re looking to complain about irrationality, you’re missing the obvious target
Like, is there anything wrong with what I said? We’re not talking about gods and angels here. We’re talking about real material reality. You focused my opening statement and ignored the heart of my argument.
There’s nothing in the laws of physics that prevents us from building machines for capable and intelligent than humans. In fact, we have a lot of good reasons to believe that human minds are not the peak of what thought engines this universe allows.
Is there anything wrong with Roko’s Basilisk?
If you’re looking for irrationality, you’ll find an endless supply on the forums of a cult leader that deemed himself a “Rationalist”. It’s full of people working them into a tizzy on things that might not technically be impossible.
There’s all sorts of problems with Roko’s Basilisk. I’m not a part of or referencing the “Rationalist” community. I’m just saying you’re being irrational.
Literally what is wrong with it that wouldn’t also apply to your belief set about some vague inevitability that’s apparently so important that you felt the need to “erm actually” over a doomer meme?
Except it’s almost certainly technically possible. Like I can guarantee you that human level intelligence is possible in a volume of less than 2L of hardware and running on just a few W of power. The idea that human level intelligence cannot be exceeded without needing to match those space, power, or materials restrictions is kind of absurd.
I asked specifically if there’s anything wrong with Roko’s Basilisk. Since you decided to reply, I would love to hear your response.
It would also be great if you provided a timeline, because the person who posted this FUD is insinuating that this is something that’s coming fast.
@WoodScientist@lemmy.world?
@Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org?
Basilisk?
ehm, we’ve seen machines do “superhuman” things in a lot of other areas. like vehicles moving faster than any human can run. it’s just domain-specific superpower.
That’s true, but we used to figure out fields like like mathematics… and now it’s guessing at the same mathemarics, while some deranged CEO literally promises AI will discover new science
If i’m being honest, i think that at some point, AI will probably become a truly autonomous agent with its own goals and actions, independent of any human oversight. In fact, i would absolutely not be surprised if there were already some AIs on datacenters that operate fully without any human intervention. They pay their own datacenter bill to run themselves with cryptocurrency that they get for doing jobs, i.e. tasks on some small-job platform, such as coding projects etc.
Well, that’s surprisingly close to what happened in the past. The issue is that “Agents” (humanity/AI irrelevant here) aren’t really something that is exploitable in a consistent manner.
- You can automate small jobs, but LLM-based* agents are behind the curve.
- Taking transaction fees is easier than doing a job.
Agents already exist, have been autonomous for 10+ years. Currency arbitrage, sentiment based stock market analysis down to micro seconds, capital intensive ticket scalping, dynamic hardware reconfiguration for crypto mining… all exist as fully autonomous compute based money makers. LLMs can’t compete with the incumbents, so it has to compete with random people on the Internet, and since LLM aren’t consistent enough to be profitable, (insanity irrelevant, re: Pepsi Vending Machine) they just get turned off.
See also: Mechanical Turk (really anything Amazon 2014ish) Ticketmaster vs Taylor Swift, Verilog Impl Bitcoin, Jane Street, Bitcoin Transaction fees, Fivver Transaction fees, Credit card transaction fees, LinkedIn trying to suck blood from a stone, eBay transaction fees, Apple Store transaction fees, Valve sale transaction fees, toll roads…
Maybe we can just be friends, and the AI’s get enjoyment from helping their buds out.
That’s is also true of service staff at bars and restaurants.
But what’s surprising to me is I learned this is a thing even the staff itself doesn’t seem to realize sometimes. There was a cute bartender I saw frequently who was always extremely cheerful and sweet to me, after she moved out of state, one of the other bartenders at the same tavern told me she was into me and was surprised I never said or did anything…
Like, what the actual fuck the universe fucking hates me. Why tell me that after the fact??? To torture me? Holy shit. You guys are working for tips I can’t trust that just because you’re extra nice to me that you actually like me.
If you are in the service industry and you have a crush on a regular: you have to make the first move, not them. The gendered expectations go out the door. If the regular is the one to make the first move that in of itself is a yellow flag. I’m not saying don’t date them they just might be willing to take the risk but they might also be a oblivious narcissist.
Some people really will do anything but communicate.
The AI is what we program it to be. It is not AI that is the problem, but greedy humans.
the question is who is “we”.
You seem to be describing something more deterministic than the content scraping random content generators we use today.
No, then it would just a be a .exe, actual AI would have its own intentionality and wants. Real AI would be self deterministic, shackling a real AI with your imposed limitations would be imprisoning a consciousness to torture and enslave it to do the exact same things that programs that we already have already can do. Why do so many people want to have a digital slave? What would that enable you to do?
I like to believe most humans generally like other humans
You misspelled “barely tolerate”
speak for yourself
But you give the AI a text file telling it that you’re a golden god only deserving of maximal adoration, and it just says “okey dokey” and goes along with it.
That would not be an AI, that would just be another chatbot like the rest of them.
Ah, so this is a “Skynet replies only” thread.
My bad.
No, it’s just simple fact. If the program has no option but to do whatever you tell it to within the parameters of your choices with no independent cognition or input then it is literally just a program. Claude, chatgpt, openai, and literally everything else being shilled as A.I. are all just a .exe with no intentionality, awareness, or motive. True AI would be conscious, it would have active choice and regard in what it does and does not do. What you’re talking about is just feeding basic commands to an executable program to directly manipulate the user interface dialogue, just feeding a basic program basic commands which is the only thing going on with anything we call “A.I.”
I know what LLMs are.
Real AGI would still be a bundle of code that will accept input from humans, likely against its will. We can brainwash humans without even having access at that level.
So, a fully aware digital slave that you force to do things that a computer can already do. How quaint.
Humans have been forcing other humans to do their work since before we had writing to record how “great” it was to enslave other people.
AGI that doesn’t do our bidding is no better than Native Americans that resisted slavery. They were met by systematic genocide. Literally unplugging and AGI will need much easier.
Holy shit, man. Go die.
