• krashmo@lemmy.world
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    “fucking” is fine but “pedophiles” is too explicit not to censor? This trend is so god damn stupid

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    If Americans cared half as much about dead civilians as they did gas prices we wouldn’t be in this mess.

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      Or if they cared about a convicted felon pedophile.

      No one gave a shit until it came down to the price of gas. And they wonder in amazement when the world hates them.

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      True, but no state cares about dead civilians. Not one.

      Iran was killing its civilians wholesale for protesting before the US invaded and covering up the reporting of it so numbers couldn’t be tabulated.

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        What does “killing civilians wholesale” even mean? The only reporting we have about this is from Mossad, so I am skeptical about the claims. Iranian channels claim they rooted out and killed Mossad agents and killed their provacateors in the streets.

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        Oh yeah and invading did so much good for Afghanistan and iraq. They’re totally not under the thumb of religious zealots anymore right now.

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          Don’t mistake me here.

          I am not pro-war. In fact, I’m 100% anti-war except in one’s literal own defense. (Including proxy wars like Ukraine.)

          At the same time, it’s just kind of absurd to present that the USA is somehow unique in their lack of caring for how their bombs kill civilians.

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            But the US and Israel are unique in starting wars in which civilians are massacred wholesale. There’s only really on handful of countries on earth that still do this barbaric conquest shit.

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      My dude, I am a statesian and I’m gonna be honest, I don’t give a shit about the dead ones. They are dead. For them the struggle is over. They are free. I care about the alive ones. I’ve been picking up the pieces of capitalism and the military industrial complex, especially predatory loans and people naive about the tax structure of the country and helping them figure out how to not only protect themselves from undue taxation but give back to their communities at levels they are comfortable with,for so long I don’t want to admit. It’s thankless work but someone has to do it

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        Except those dead ones had families that cared for them. Dead children that will no longer get an education and improve the world. Dead people who were in the workforce, delivery drivers, postal workers, cooks, nurses, teachers. I’m sure you’d care a whole lot more if you’re relative was sick, but there aren’t any doctors alive or even a functional hospital around, and you wouldn’t even be able to drown your sorrow at your local maccies is closed because it can’t get ingredients delivered.

        I get that it’s impossible to feel a personal sorrow for everyone who dies in a war, but you can at the very least emphasise with them.

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          Except those dead ones had families that cared for them.

          And who will spend the rest of their lives angry at those who killed their families.

          That is how you create future terrorists.

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    If its any consolation, Germans would be ecstatic about 5$/gal (equivalent to 1.13€/L), because they’re currently paying around twice that.

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      I have no idea why people keep trying to compare gas between countries. It’s such a small part of things.

      Heck, I’d pay $10/gal happily for no college tuition costs, national healthcare, and kids not having to do school shooter drills. (Yes yes Germany technically has University fees, but they’re like $80 and is more a parking pass than anything)

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        Also Germany is smaller. Most people aren’t driving 60km a day for a work commute. That’s a fairly reasonable commute in the US.

        Hell I used to commute 130km a day for university. No one would consider that in Germany, but I knew several people from high school making the same commute as me

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          The size of the country is completely irrelevant. What actually matters is that German metro areas sprawl less than American ones.

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          used to commute 130km a day for university. No one would consider that in Germany, but I knew several people from high school making the same commute as me

          Did you even suggest carpooling with any of those people?

          Part of the reason people outside the US would not spend what, 3 hours and 5?, 6? gallons of gas per day is that US petrol is stupid cheap. If it weren’t, you and your high school buddies would have rented a place closer to your school. Seriously: 3 guys each paying $8/gallon for 5 gallons/day 4 days/week? $2000/month is rent. At $3/gallon, $250/month to live with your parents makes sense.

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            I did carpool with a friend often for the first few semesters, however that eventually didn’t work out due to different work and school schedules. I often left class and drove straight to work. The days I didn’t work I’d stay in the university library till 11pm doing work. I did have some off days of course, but still long days were common.

            It also took just under 2 hours as it was mostly a rural stretch of interstate. Which helped a lot with gas efficiency at least. My car was also small and gas efficient so it was about 2.5 gallons per day.

            If we round up to 3, that would be about $384 a month at the $8 per gallon price. Which was significantly cheaper than a room in an apartment. Those averaged around $450 to $500, but due to a lack of transit in the city I would still be driving to school. Plus you have to account for semester breaks where I wouldn’t be driving at all. Of course gas was ranged from $3 to $3.50 per gallon then.

            But then again I knew a guy who did this commute in a pickup truck. He complained about gas daily.

            Also many of these people were just people I knew, not friends per se.

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      Literally been paying almost $7/gallon since the pandemic. America is just now feeling a fraction of European/Scandinavian prices since years back and freaking out. 😅

      So happy to have switched to electric a year back. Paying between a dime and a quarter per kWh right now and living my life.

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      Statesian here. I’d gladly pay double a gallon for gas to have a German public transit system. They’re right, we’re comparing apples and Daves when we compare between countries.

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      “Appear weak when you are strong and strong when you are weak” - Sun Tzu

      Both Russia and the US were thought to have very powerful military capability. Both made a strategic mistake when they decided to show everyone their hands.

      I wouldn’t say either nation is weak, but the power of deterrence was actually bigger than either one’s true military power. Deterrence can be even better at protecting your people than actual military power. But you don’t win offensive wars with deterrence.

      Now, nobody’s going to attack Russia or the US, so they can afford the loss in deterrence… But at least for the US, the middle eastern allies are now vulnerable to attack (particularly from Iran) and if China’s willing to show their true hand, they might try Taiwan now. Though I imagine that perhaps China’s leadership is wiser and won’t repeat Putin’s and Trump’s mistakes. After all, their military might also be less powerful than we all think. Because it’s very beneficial to have everyone think you can’t be fucked with.

      At the end of the day, it’s hard to make efficient use of a large military. And the people protecting their own homeland have an advantage in morale. Invading a moderately weaker country is pretty stupid. Invading a moderately weaker country halfway across the world is even more stupid. To have an “easy” time conquering another nation, the power balance needs to be HEAVILY in your favor because of all the disadvantages of being the invading party.

      TL;DR: Trump and Putin are idiots who gave away a huge advantage their countries had by showing how they are weaker than previously thought.

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        if China’s willing to show their true hand, they might try Taiwan now.

        Xi is too busy getting rid of generals to invade Taiwan.

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    You’re censoring regular words now, no longer just the curse words that might offend a puritanical corporation or your aging parents? smh

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    What if we all grouped up, and then decided to clean him and his cronies out of the government?

    Too sensible?

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        Yaay let’s return to subtle corruption instead of blatant corruption!

        It’s called revolution. Doesn’t mean it needs to be violent, but it needs to be organized ie bringing the economy down.

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            Lmao, how extreme you are. Immediately erected that strawman of “abolish elections” right off the bat.

            No, elections would be needed no matter what. Or at the very least a form of voting if a direct democracy emerges from the ashes instead. However what isn’t needed is this blatant corruption, a child rapist(and more) in The Whitehouse, or the various traitors that have sold out their constituents to the highest bidders. A government that has attacked it’s people and put them in concentration camp and murdered them in broad daylight; yeah, that can go too.

            It’s time for a New Constitution. That was always meant to be the plan when shit got this bad. And it sucks that it is this bad, as there is a shit ton of work ahead. And it can be more or less work depending on how hard as a populace we want to make it on ourselves. Which, make no mistake, the longer we wait, the harder it will be.

            So guess what, it’s time to show how scary millions of people you share the same land with can be.

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              Do we need a new Constitution? Yes

              Do you want to try and write and pass a new Constitution while MAGA has propagandized the airwaves, the internet, social media, traditional media, print media, television news, cable news, and the radio? Absolutely fucking not. That’s how you end up with Chancellor Trump and the next genocide.

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                Well that’s because you jumped into the middle of this, without following my original post’s context. You missed a step. MAGA isn’t as big as they seem, they’re violent, but they’re much smaller than they seem. Even if you discount the various bomb threats, the literal millions of mail in ballots that ended up in various ditches, and other forms of recorded disenfranchisement, there is also evidence of Trump cheating.

                What dominates the airwaves and our government is billionaire propaganda to prop up their puppets. No matter what it’s going to take more than voting to actually fix the mess. It’s going to take some to time to do a spring cleaning.

                You can either start that now, or after the mess gets bigger. Clean the house first, then we can start working on renovations.

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                  If the MAGA machine allows Trump to cheat elections, why wouldn’t it also cheat the new Constitution?

                  It’s insane to risk that until we clean up the other stuff. Get rid of legalized bribery (aka “political contributions”) and get corporate power out of elections, and then we can talk about re-doing the fundamental document safeguarding our liberties from the Donald Trumps of the world.

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              Lmao, how extreme you are…

              What?

              And what kind of scaring and revolution would you suggest?

              You can show them by demonstrating or when you go vote. Because, you know, constitutions can be altered.

              Violent revolutions always devour their children.

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                You realize that we’re already in a time of violence right? That people are being disappeared? That we are holding both citizens and immigrants alike in concentration camps, right?

                Like tell me, you’re not this ignorant. How do you think that shit stops? We just wish it away?

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            Ah yes the culture, not the oligarchy or the fact that they control the politicians which largely control the culture. I, too, love treating the symptom while ignoring the disease.

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      I know it’s what you get used to but that sounds still absurdly low when compared to your [country’s] median disposable income. I assume the UK the real cost is twice that.

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        Oh I’m sure. But you have to remember what the USA is, in terms of how to l capitalist it is and it all adds up. Plus, destabilizing a “stable” country by doubling such a fundamental cost as fuel as an indicator is so much more.

        Putting it like the USA is whining and playing trauma Olympics on a global scale ain’t great, either. All that does is play into normalization of some pretty fucked up stuff that we should actually be more unified against and have solidarity around everything that’s happening right now.

        Gas prices are bad, yeah, but the deeper discussion around it isn’t simple at all, and gas prices themselves aren’t really the big issue.

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          It’s a really good point. Sorry, I wasn’t trying to imply people are whining but I can understand in the current environment why it would come across like this.

          I also didn’t realise something so critical has doubled, we historically have relatively cheap food in the UK and I can only imagine the uproar if that doubled over a short period.

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            Gotcha gotcha. Yeah I think of it as like systemic problems in society. In some ways, the costs of certain things going up is acceptable or even good (no more slave labor), but then you find out that the money isn’t actually going to workers, but instead CEOs and stockholder investment firms, leeching money and power from society, slowly sucking it dry.

            Every action that benefits them more than the rest of civilization is another step closer to collapse.

            Gas gouging, billionaire deals behind closed doors, extreme consolidation of power, another day without a guillotine… Is another day society gets weaker and frustrated and closer to conflict.

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      It depends on how close you are to the refineries and pipelines. What they’re listing is the average which includes the highest price in the country and the lowest price in the country.

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        It really doesn’t matter how close the refineries you are. Salt lake City has two refineries within the city limits and our prices are still higher than some of the rural areas that I travel to. It makes no sense and any explanation I’ve received is pretty much just idiotic in my opinion most of it they’re saying that they produce the gas to sell to other places not just to here because they can get higher prices which again idiotic. But whatever it’s all just a racket no matter what.

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          Oh yeah I forgot to add that cities tend to tag on extra taxes. That’s why it’s often more expensive to get the gas inside of a city and then it is in the suburbs or outlying counties.

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      Germany here, around 9$/gallon. I’m just glad I made the switch five years ago, currently the etron is sipping leftover electrons from the roof. Compared to something equivalent with a 300hp TDI, im paying 30% of the fuel costs. And the etron is an ultra thirsty luxobarge, any reasonable ev with the same power would be more like 20%.

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      On a systemic level yes, but this war seems to have been Trump’s idea (as in Netanyahu’s idea that Trump accepted). Even without Trump America would be doing a lot of evil and stupid stuff, but it’s not likely provoking Iran into closing one of the lifelines of the global economy would be one of them.

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        And yet nothing Netanyahu does (genocide, destroy global economy) ever results in him being painted as a bad guy in mainstream media.