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  • Okay, first I think it needs to be said that this is a complex and difficult situation that really doesn’t leave us with any good options either way, and I think both sides of this debate have people with good intentions behind them.

    Second, this

    Cops beat the shit out of compliant protesters all the time.

    is true and something people need to be aware of.

    However, third, it needs to be said that

    Fight back

    will absolutely get the shit beaten out of you unless you got an army in your back pocket I somehow haven’t heard about yet.

    Fourth,

    Fight back or run away. If you’re not capable of either then you’ve already missed your chance at contributing to the movement.

    Bullshit. Every news story picture and video that shows protesters getting attacked and arrested is an incredibly powerful piece of evidence showing the consequences of rising fascism in America that’s going to be harder and harder for the people who are trying to ignore all this stuff to tune out. Even the selfish asshole centrist dipshits who don’t care about immigrant rights and just want everything to settle down are going to see that this unrest can’t be beaten into submission and efforts to do so just make the protests bigger, and that’s when those people are going to turn on the fascists and say “Look, I was willing to give up civil liberties for law and order, but you can’t even give us that.” (we’re already seeing talk like that out of Gavin Newsom).

    Personally, I say if you’re in a protest and cops start attacking, run away if you can or sit down if you can’t, because I don’t feel comfortable asking people to just turn themselves over to the mercy of law enforcement who may very well do permanent injury to them, but I have nothing but respect for the people who do make that sacrifice for this movement, and the notion that people being arrested aren’t contributing is absolute bullshit.










  • For sure, I tend to be a bit sympathetic to journalists because they have a pretty thankless job and writing quickly about complex events filled with dishonest people pushing bullshit talking points is just always going to be a really hard thing to do really well consistently

    But on the other hand what you’re saying is a totally fair criticism, and I’m glad to see it because you’re totally right about the importance of framing and how many bullshit things people in power do gets laundered by being written about in passive voice or as some kind of natural and inevitable outcome instead of as a conscious decision made by real people, and getting push back on it gives journalists at least some basis to change how they do things and say “I’m just responding to what my readers are telling me,” when people accuse them of being biased.