• zwerg@feddit.org
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    Honestly, the Nobel Foundation has done themselves and the Nobel Prize terrible damage. I, for one, am no longer interested in this sham of an award, or any of the other Nobel prizes. They should be ashamed that were stupid enough or corrupt enough to have given it to Machado in the first place, she was clearly no agent for peace. This just adds to that shame.

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      The Foundation couldn’t stop her from doing this, and as far as they’re concerned, it’s still hers. Physical possession is symbolic, and she knew it would get him to calm down. Cynical? Yes. But it if works…

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        My issue is that Machado should never have got the award in the first place, Trump now possessing it adds insult to injury. The Foundation should be ashamed of what they did.

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          My issue is that Machado should never have got the award in the first place

          Why? At the time she was a persecuted activist challenging a dictator. That’s right up their alley.

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        I mean no offense, but do you really not see what’s behind her receiving it in the first place?

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            I don’t think you can call the USA’s efforts to undermine South America’s governments a conspiracy at this point. It’s well documented that over the years the CIA have done everything they can to control the region. In this episode of the ongoing South American telenovela, DT wanted the Nobel peace prize. There was no reason to give it to him so instead someone smarter used the US leverage over the committee to create a narrative where the US backed opposition would get some legitimacy and global recognition so that the upcoming coup wouldn’t taste so bad.

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              US backed opposition

              What an insult to Venezuelans. That opposition was homegrown and domestic and a response to Maduro’s refusal to yield power. She was a leader in that opposition and was awarded the prize months before she outed herself as someone supporting a violent coup.

              the US leverage over the committee

              What leverage is that exactly? Do you not realize how fucking embarrassing you sound right now? This doesn’t exist.

              The US’ past in South America is not a license for you to just make up bullshit. We have:

              1.) the likely, sensible theory where the Committee saw Machado as a pro-democracy activist against a dictator.

              or…

              2.) Trump wanted a Nobel prize, forced the Committee to give the award to Machado. And somehow, Machado made him do this to take advantage of him. And she convinced Trump to pull off a coup 4 months later.

              Yeah, I don’t like her either, but’s not an excuse to fucking lie like this.

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                I’m sure there’s a lot of different “factions” opposing Maduro, surely many of them on the actual left, but somehow she comes out on top.

                The US’s past and present in South America is quite telling imho. The current administration have made their intentions clear - as opposed to previous administrations who were more diplomatic and secretive, but the goal is ultimately the same.

                As for your 2, with all due respect that’s not what I was suggesting. Machado is just a pawn, I’m not saying she manifested this. Now if you think that’s bs, that’s cool, whatever. To me it’s pretty obvious.

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      I don’t know if having a title such as this constitutes the need for affirmation. Like you need to show people you have an award for something that one should have been done already. (You don’t tell ppl your going to therapy but rather you do the positive outcomes/actions for your community/oneself)

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    Also, as far as ‘cucked’ goes.

    It’s an open secret in NYC that he divorced Marla [wife#2, Tiffany’s mother] after he caught her with a member of his security team.

    He paid the guy who slept with his wife.

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      To be fair her thinking was that if she just give him that hunk of metal and he overthrows the government it would be absolutely worth it.

      And to me that doesn’t make me look in a bad way on her.

      But unfortunately the joke is on her, he has no intention of doing it (he is fine with regime, he just wanted to get the oil). And he already is showing this by forgetting her name.

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    The worst part of this administration isn’t all the crazy shit they’re coming up with and implementing. It’s all the people like this that are bending over backwards to appease him like a spoiled rich child that didn’t get enough birthday presents and reinforcing the behavior.

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    What a fucking joke, if this is real and not a shitpost, since the officials from “Nobel” denied her first attempt.

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    What an actual fucking loser. What a piece of shit. What human filth. The lowest fucking being of us all. An actual turd. Human sewage.