• OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    I try hard not to make fun of people’s appearances. It’s not fair to mock them for their weight or their little mustaches or their ill-fitting camo gear.

    But….

    These are evil people arriving to do evil things. Sometimes ridicule is the only weapon we can use against them, since violence would only bring more of the same.

    So I guess it’s fair to say that these fearsome warriors, hot off their recent and decisively clear victory over anorexia, will pour into Chicago, like beef gravy over pizza, and devour their chosen enemy, no matter how much sweat, panting, and snacks it takes…

    Unless their enemy is at the top of more than 2 flights of stairs, of course.

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      Same. I used to be overweight (though not as much as they are), and even though I’m fit now, I would never make fun of a random person’s weight - you never know what illness or psych problem they are dealing with.

      But in this case I think it’s fair, as 1) soldiers should be fit, and 2) they are here to hurt (or at least intimidate) you, so no reason to be nice to them

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        Their body weight and physical build is very, very relevant. Someone physically unfit for the situation will resort to use of deadly force immediately. So bash away.

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        Also there are four of them in close proximity which is fucking hilarious following shortly after the drunkass Pete Hegswhatever was just lecturing the military commanders about how he was going to get rid of anyone who didn’t meet his physical standards.

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        Yall would do best to quit the handwringing about when and how body shaming is okay. Body shaming is never okay, period. This is not leftism. This is liberalism. Leftists dont do this. And to what end? Performative schoolyard insults aren’t going to stop the descent into fascism. All it does is show you aren’t understanding what causes fascism and how it’s mitigated. Does the existence of black Nazis give you the right to start dropping N bombs?

        “Violence doesn’t work against Nazis”

        What??? What was WWII about then??

        You have two methods to stop fascism: meet people’s basic needs, or squash it with guns and bullets. No amount of cutting late night monologues, or epic slams, or incisive think pieces will quell fascism. I’ll leave you a quote from Hitler.

        And so, I established in 1919 a programme and tendency that was a conscious slap in the face of the democratic-pacifist world. [We knew] it might take five or ten or twenty years, yet gradually an authoritarian state arose within the democratic state, and a nucleus of fanatical devotion and ruthless determination formed in a wretched world that lacked basic convictions.

        Only one danger could have jeopardised this development — if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.

        Neither was done. The times were such that our adversaries were no longer capable of accomplishing our annihilation, nor did they have the nerve. Arguably, they furthermore lacked the understanding to assume a wholly appropriate attitude. Instead, they began to tyrannise our young movement by bourgeois means, and, by doing so, they assisted the process of natural selection in a very fortunate manner. From there on, it was only a question of time until the leadership of the nation would fall to our hardened human material.

        Emphasis mine.

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      These are evil people arriving to do evil things.

      They’re members of the national guard. The typical enlistment period for the National Guard is 8 years. Many would have joined under Biden, and are probably still required to serve out a number of years. If they don’t, then they might have to suddenly pay back the tuition benefits or something. The military, Guard included, isn’t normally something you can just quit if you don’t like how things are going.

      ICE employees? That’s another matter. You had to voluntarily join ICE, and many of them have joined in just the last few months. They knew what they were getting into. They’re wearing masks to hide their identities, and all the bad incidents I’ve heard of (people being shot by rubber bullets, being thrown down and injured, etc.) have been ICE not Guard.

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      Given the usual missions I’ve seen the National Guard deployed for, I would actually give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are actually good willed people. Which makes the whole situation all the more deplorable and Trump all the more of an evil cunt. Hopefully he gets hoisted by his own petard.

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    Stop commenting on their shapes! The true cynical issue here is Divide and Conquer.

    Why don’t they deploy national gaurds who are from Chicago?
    I’m sure there plenty of military servicemen whose origin and families from Chicago itself, that if they really cared about protecting the Chicago community.

    They bring people from the most opposite polictical spectrum, from opposite views and concerns of Chigaco residents, from opposite far states to police and arrest folks they have the least connections to, to obey orders and terrorize residents without any objection or understanding!

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      I think part of the point isn’t so much to dunk on these dudes specifically (although they’re not great people for choosing to actually go so I don’t feel bad for them) but rather to point out that not even a week ago Hegseth was yapping about the “ideal soldier” to a room full of men who are way more knowledgeable and qualified than he is. Meanwhile the only folks that seem to wanna actually do this shit in Chicago are less than ideal specimens by Hegseth own fucked standards.