The officer apparently tried to tuck a gun into his pants instead of using a holster, failed, dropped the gun, and menaced bystanders in response to his own failure
People need to read up on the Kent State shootings in 1970. National Guards “men” shot and killed people singing songs. 4 murdered, 9 more shot, then days later at UNM 8 students were stabbed with bayonettes.
There was an investigation, the Guard lied about being under sniper fire, most of these brave heros admitted they were scared because of rocks. No one was held responsible for a massacre of unarmed Americans.
America has a 50 year old problem of cowards with guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings?wprov=sfla1
And we’re still talking about Kent State and UNM today as it had a serious affect on the country. But the sad part is, if something like this happened today, a third of Americans would blame the victims. Fox News would tell lies about what actually happened. And it would be swept under the rug and forgotten about by Christmas.
Trump world also pardon any offenders if it made it to court.
The lesson from Kent State is no one in this country really gave a fuck.
Some of those shot weren’t even protesters, they were just random students walking to class who were completely uninvolved.
This kind of thing was way too common back then
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Just back then? This is my first time reading this particular excerpt, but the “Black Hitlers” part sticks out. Conservative America really has been doing the same shit forever, it seems. Calling them that is in the same family as saying, “Antifa are the real fascists,” etc. Just feed their target audience some shit to parrot that, to them, feels salient but really is meaningless except for redirecting blame and stoking fear and hatred.
Exactly. Paint their opponents with their own crimes in order to sow confusion and shift blame
It’s literally the South Park episode.
Ah yes, the States. Where you have to be more scared of the police than of criminals.
I sure hope this doesn’t happen over here.
Not sure where here is, but police are the same everywhere.
Nah, they are worse in the states. Yes, there are bad cops here too, one randomly pulled a gun on one of my family members at a traffic stop, but the cops here are generally better than in the states.
I feel like they’re worse some places than others.
I don’t know. I’ve never even seen a police officer here take their gun out of the holster, no even put a hand over it.
Nope, that’s not true. The US is a special kind of hellscape.
That’s really ignorant, police is not at all the same everywhere
There’s a new breed of you people, you’re the opposite of the rights bootlickers.
However, you are just as bad as the maga fuckwits, blind and irrational, spouting nonsense you think is correct and others agree with you.
You’ve probably never left the fucking states with comments like that.
Why so hostile mate? Let’s have a civil discussion.
Surely these men (sadly almost entirely us) are getting known, renowned in their own communities and workplaces as the morons to avoid. The draining view is that they’ll be treated with jock humour and ultimately praised.
I’ve seen drunk teenagers more eloquent and confident than this guy.
I mean it isn’t like they’re exactly hiring qualified individuals.
You have to be american to become a ICE agent
The problem with gun-wielding morons is they’re slow to realize the rest of us can put them in jail.
This is such a strange and out-of-touch comment (to me) that I can’t tell if it’s bad sarcasm or…what.
You’re not alone, that’s my reaction too, because the frustrating reality is that it never happens.
Can you, though?
Or do you elect them to the highest office in the land?
Fuck ICE. Nazi bastards.
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I stayed just outside of DC a couple weeks ago. I went into a run-down Dunkin and it was operated entirely in Spanish aside from the cashier knowing just enough English to take orders from people who aren’t fluent in Spanish. I knew enough Spanish to be able to get my order when it was called. As I was leaving, a cop came in and started counting every brown person there. He made a big show of it, too, and people started panicking.
I honestly didn’t know what to do in that situation. I was hungover as hell, broke, and had to drive 5 hours to get home so I could wake up for work the next day. I decided to just hang out and make sure the cop knew that I was watching him. I had my phone out and ready to record if more serious shit started happening. After a few minutes, the cop went back outside to his squad car and I pretended like I totally just happened to be leaving at the same time. When I blatantly eavesdropped on the cop and his buddy in the squad car outside, I heard them laughing about the whole thing. Apparently terroizing immigrants and their families is a fucking game to those bastards.
The patrons of the place cleared out immediately after the cops were gone. I stayed parked at that Dunkin for a good half an hour after everyone who could leave did and nothing else happened.
I have no idea if I should have done something more in that situation. I wanted to tell the cop to get the fuck out of there. I wanted to say some witty shit like “Oh man, I didn’t order ice with my coffee.”
I kinda freaked out internally when I realized what was happening but I couldn’t bring myself to just leave despite my instincts telling me to. So I just made my presence and opposition to the cop known in a way that couldn’t (legally) get me arrested and hoped for the best.
Perhaps you could have done more, but you did something, and that matters in my books
Where the fuck was he taught to tuck his gun in his belt like this? Fucking hastily trained amateurs.
Trained? Don’t they just apply, given a gun, mask, and pointed towards a brown person?
The bullets fell out of his gun, too, and he didn’t notice them on the ground the whole time he was walking around even when he stepped on them. And I don’t think he put one in the chamber before the whole debacle got underway. If shit had gone sideways and he’d pulled the trigger, nothing would have happened, I think.
I thought maybe one of the spare magazines fell out of his vest, but it looks like he has 3 before and 3 after. I think he was unarmed that whole time.
You can see the magazine in his hand and if you look at the right moment the pistol has no magazine in it.
Looks pretty loaded to me, mate. He had a second magazine in his hand while he was trying to detain.
You are right, during the struggle it looked like there was no magazine for me. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the correction. Still kind of fucked up how he handled his firearm though.
Even worse: When that gun was tucked in his belt like this, it doesn’t take much for the trigger to be accidentally pulled by a crease of his clothing or gear he’s carrying, resulting in him shooting himself in the pelvis. Also, had the suspect actually been violent there would have been a risk of him grabbing it. It was right there within easy reach.
Even worse
shooting himself in the pelvis
Is that worse though?
The victim was very close to grabbing it after it fell out of the incompetent agent’s belt. I have to assume that’s what this quote is all about.
In a genuinely shocking development, DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin issued a statement Friday which said “The officer’s conduct in this video is unacceptable and beneath the men and women of ICE. Our ICE law enforcement are held to the highest professional standards and this officer is being relieved of current duties as we conduct a full investigation.”
He went for the “shoot my dick off”, appendix carry. He went for his CCW holster, and it wasn’t there.
It ended up being more like the Calvin Klein holster
ICE is directed by jan 6 insurrectionists
they got all the ‘training’ they need:
“I have to protect my people.”
not you. not ‘them’. just ‘my people’.
Looks cool in movies. Probably aims his gun sideways, yo.
He had a nut to pay for
Those guys are fuckin trash at their job, my god.
Well yeah, they took a job to basically run around and terrorize immigrants all day like its cowboys and indians. Can’t imagine that attracts a very high caliber individual, and the administration sure as hell isn’t turning anyone away.
You know, where I’m at, that is a chargeable offense.
An ICE agent pointing a gun at someone like this deserves to be fired. He basically doubled down on his own incompetency.
Problem is, who is the officer? No name, no badge number, unmarked car…
This is how the riots start. Sooner or later one of these untrained ice agents will shoot a civilian because he is scared. Somebody in that crowd will shoot back…and then it begins.
They do seem to forget how the Boston massacre started, don’t they?
“The shot heard 'round the world”, or something…
grabs popcorn
As an American, i just wanted to say fuck you.
A lot of good people are going to die. Your supposed entertainment here will be mostly poor people, and those who feel they can’t stand by while evil people oppress them.
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To clarify, I do not enjoy this either, but its more of a comment about the state of affairs. The fact that we’ve become so desensitized that everything feels unreal/surreal, the events feel almost as if it were a movie. Hence “popcorn”. Its a sarcastic comment, not to be taken seriously. Its like how people laughs when something bad is about to happen, its nervous-laughter, a response to trauma. Sorry if you interpreted this comment this wrong way.
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I’m also American, but I’m not white and I wasn’t born here in the US, I cannot afford to intervene. I’m also being persecuted by my previous country, and I can’t really put myself on the radar for two governments to come after me and my family/relatives, some of which aren’t citizens yet, so I’m bit of in a “Snowden” type situation, sorry, but I can’t do much. I’m afraid to go outside because xenophobes would tell me to “go home”.
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Forget fired, they should face criminal charges as anyone else would if they pointed a gun on someone without a reason.
*deserves to be shot. Like all gestapo.
So what you are saying is they are going to promote them?
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He should have been taken down by a good guy with a gun immediately - pointing a gun at someone is a felony, and these brown coats have no training or accountability.
They’re being called Brown Coats? Malcom Reynolds would be furious to learn this.
I love the Firefly reference, but I think they meant the brownshirts: Braunhemden)
I did! My bad, got firefly mixed up with brown shirts.
Either one is too kind a term. I call them dipshits, cowards, nazis, incels, mall cop bitches.
The Sturmabteilung (colloquially “Braunhemden”) were literally the paramilitary nazi force. Calling them brownshirts is equivalent to calling them Nazis.
I dont think calling them nazis actually bothers them.
I’m just pointing out that “brownshirt is too nice, I’ll call them nazis” is redundant because brownshirts are Nazis.
Why are we not calling them, “red hats?”
Because they don’t wear them. They’re all in Tacticool™ camo.
Most responsible gun owners understand why shooting this guy in this moment would be a huge mistake and are devoting an outsized chunk of their patience to tolerating the people demanding to know where was the good guy with a gun was.
If you think I’m genuinely suggesting “a good guy” start a fire fight perhaps I need to be less ambiguous.
I was being hyperbolic - I think ICE is Nazi scum and deserves to die, but I understand that this man being shot in the moment is not the answer.
I just wish it were - he catches a round for his Nazi scumbaggery (and all his friends too), and then everyone just moves on like nothing of value was lost, because it wasn’t.
Reminds me of that serial killer in China who targeted cops in their own homes. They never caught him. I hope that doesn’t start happening here. Wouldn’t that be terrible?
ICE are going to have to wear those bacon burkas for the rest of their lives. It’s their new skin. All for a bonus and a down-payment on a McMansion that they’re going to default on in 5 years.
Alright then, I understand what you mean. And tbh I tend to agree on an emotional level. It’s just that “He should have been taken down by a good guy with a gun immediately” doesn’t exactly communicate that nuance, ya know?
More than fair, I’ll try to be clearer in the future when engaging in hyperbole.
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You do that and you’ll be labeled as a common leftist violent thug and used as an excuse to shoot anyone who objects.
Just saying. You’re going to need to plan a few more steps ahead.
There are no good guys with guns in Maryland, the state restricted that right away from most citizens.
The gun fumble omfg, guy being kidnapped very nearly grabbed it. Then it takes 8 minutes for 4 guys to put on handcuffs and get out of the intersection!?! Reckless, untrained and dangerous for everyone around them.
Drops his own gun next to the hand of the guy he’s arresting, then hastily picks it up to point it at the people recording him. Incredible.
Not only that but dumbass drops his entire mag! He needs to be fired! ___
Holy fuck
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Fucking brownshirt losers.
You can see he’s panicked. If he shot anybody it would have been justified because he was, in fact, scared. Bad training keeps cops out of prison.
The IDF hasn’t trained them yet, they’ve been busy.
