Too many people pearl clutching today over worries of retributive violence, as if the fascists aren’t already going to be committing that violence on us in the near future regardless. It’s not too early to say that this scumbag deserved much worse and I’m glad he got rocked so publicly. Mods I’ll understand if you delete this and I’m truly sorry for the trouble if you do, I just need a personal break today from the media cacophony of liberals collectively reconciling with the realization that we live in an abnormally and horrifically violent society.

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    i switched over from reddit recently and this post makes me here to stay. Got a loud laugh out of me after reading all the undeserved sympathy this guy was getting.

    I’ve been wondering for awhile now - at what point do ppl just start killing these fucking ppl. I guess that’s today. Hopefully this a lesson/reminder in why you don’t treat your fellow man like fucking dogshit, cause they just might tear your fucking throat out!

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    Bruh… We are in for an explosion of political violence… Only difference between now and the past is white wealthy men are the targets. Watching them freak out when they are gunned down on a random Wednesday is laughable. Welcome to your average black Americans reality. Police killings are political violence but no one with actual power ever gave a shit.

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    Someone said “he died as he lived: talkin’ out the side of his neck.”

    Perfection.

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    Dude, I watched a youtube video of local news stations reporting over the shooting. The youtube comments are completely deranged and 100% written by AI. Somehow charlie kirk is being equated to MLK Jr.

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    They’re already committing violence. It’s just directed against brown people, we shouldn’t forget that. The level they expand and escalate it to is what’s up for debate.

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    I feel for all the people who will have to live with the fear and trauma of witnessing this. I’m glad nobody else was hurt. This type of violence is a consequence of our gun-obsessed and highly politically polarized culture, which Kirk had a massive hand in making worse. I hope we can focus on the damage his rhetoric has caused and those who were taken in by him can use this as a learning moment.

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      Yeah, what is up with our gun-obsessed culture anyhow? Switzerland for example has about as many guns per person as we do, but they’re not nutso gun worshippers like we are. What gives?

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        Swiss only have guns because it is the gun from their military training, which currently is mandatory.

        They may have guns, but they do not have ammo.

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        The US has roughly 1.2 guns per person. Switzerland has 0.27. Canada is a better comparison with 0.34. No country in the world is really in the same league as the US. The US is more than double the next country: Yemen.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

        While other countries do sometimes have a few guns, they all have much stronger gun laws. In Switzerland a gun is never something you can use for self-defence or home defence. It has to be safely stored at all times except when you’re going out hunting or going to a shooting range. If your weapon is lost or stolen you have to report it to the police immediately. If you are going hunting or going to a shooting range, your gun has to be unloaded.

        In Canada it’s relatively easy to get a hunting rifle, but pistols are more or less illegal. If you’re a sport shooter you can get one, but if you’re driving to go shooting it has to be locked in a box in the trunk of your car.

        The US one of the only countries where it’s acceptable to use a gun for self-defence. It’s one of the only countries where people think they have a right to guns. Almost every other country considers it a privilege that can be taken away if someone doesn’t actively demonstrate that they’re handling these dangerous things safely. In almost every other country it’s illegal to have a loaded gun on you when you’re not at a gun range, with a few exceptions made for police, bodyguards, etc.

        The US also has extremely violent media compared to the rest of the world. In the US there are ratings to try to protect kids from seeing sexual content, but violence is mostly OK. In most of the rest of the world it’s violence that’s not OK but sex is no big deal.

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        I’ve always said America doesn’t have a gun problem. We have a culture problem. I could go on and on, but as a gun owner concerned with the law, you can’t believe the stupid shit I’ve seen posted online.

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      I strongly worry about the short term for everyone. Listening to the fear and anger of both the people around me in rage and the people celebrating violence online, this feels like the first domino falling. Tensions will be high for awhile. Please learn to love your neighbors no matter how ignorant or disgusting their beliefs and convictions may be.

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        Loving people like this doesn’t make them question themselves - it makes them think their abhorrent views aren’t so bad or that your convictions aren’t really that strong.

        And doing so does not stop the violence - there are already people dying in prison camps and being arrested and beaten for protests. The violence is already happening and keeping silent about it is just pretending it isn’t and trying to keep it isolated to a group of sacrificial others rather than seeing it effect everyone.

        Is the situation lamentable? Yes. But this escalation didn’t happen in a vacuum.

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        What about when their beliefs are “people you care about should die?”

        It’s a reciprocal relationship. I can tolerate them if they can tolerate me. If they base their beliefs on failing to tolerate me… I won’t extend the courtesy either.

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    Hard to argue with logic like that.

    I’m still not totally convinced he was right though, need more data.

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      I saw the picture of the just before part, not sure I want to watch the actual thing. However I know he (gleefully) damaged many, many lives and I know that some of them will be happy to watch this.

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      Oh thank you, I was just searching for a downloadable link. I’m gonna hang this up on my wall.

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    dude had a big face or small face depending on how you define face, i see why the shooter didn’t want to overcomplicate and went for the neck

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      If they were shooting at the face, they would have misjudged the distance.

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      He was likely aiming for the face and didn’t calculate for the bullet drop. Good. Enough.

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        Bro, somebody who did a shot this good has to be experienced with weapons. They fucking took into account bullet drop. Maybe they didn’t take enough into account, but they had to have taken into account

        Honestly, super curious about who the person is if they ever do end up catching a real suspect.