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    Wow. Does this really wanna tell me that roughly every 2nd US-american I would in the US of A is a cult-loving, children-spanking, homophobic, misogynistic silly shitstick of an excuse for a decent human being? Explains the “president”.

    Did I mention: wow?

    Can only hope this is some totally stupid agenda-pushing crap, and only 20 people were interviewed. In front of some church or so.

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      I can guarantee you the people who voted these things as being “morally wrong” only believe it’s wrong if someone else is doing it

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        I think hypocrisy is somehow implied with the top3 “immoralities” here.

        Especially homophobia. I always had the suspicion, that the graph, that shows “volume and intensity of voicing of anti-gay-sentiment” on the x-axis, and “actually being closeted gay themselves” on the y-axis, is a very straight line in a 45° arc of both.

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      We surveyed 3,605 U.S. adults from March 24 to 30, 2025. Everyone who took part in this survey is a member of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). This report also includes findings from a separate ATP survey of 8,937 U.S. adults conducted from May 5 to 11, 2025.

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          I personally know at least one family who is a Nielsen household. You’re asked to keep your participation confidential which is probably why you don’t know anyone doing it.

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              Can I talk about being in a Nielsen panel or survey?

              Learn more

              No. Once you begin participating, we ask that you do not share that you’re part of Nielsen research. We ask that you do not discuss your role with people outside of your household, including on social media websites, such as Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. This helps keep our research as independent as possible.

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          My family was a Nielsen family for a while back in the 1990s. Our parents basically only let us watch Sesame Street and a few other PBS shows. One of my friends was sort of alarmed, almost offended by this situation, like of all the people Nielsen should be seeking data from, how could it be us?

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        Thanks for killing my hopes that it was just 20 people. I didn’t wanna read the footnotes 😁

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      I’m from a MAGA cult fake hypocrite ‘Christian’ family like this.

      That I’ve had to ghost to the point they likely think I am dead, to finally stop their abuse and escape their dysfunction.

      Been trying to explain the level of moral depravity of the average American for around 25 years now… most people acted like I was being hysterical, untill very recently, when we elected basically the AntiChrist, certainly a insurrectionist rapist corrupt traitor conman, twice.

      Beyond 1/3 of the country openly and obviously being duplicitious anti-democracy theocrat bigots… almost everyone else just acted like that was fine, at every level of society, interpersonal to institutional, for my entire life.

      We, as Americans, deserve this.

      Everyone else does not.

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        Oh sweet (non-religious) jeez…yes, the american average numbnut probably deserves that. But the poor fucks like you, being open-minded in such a …well…that must really hurt, especially if it’s the own family that’s like that. As I always say: cut out toxicity in your life, no matter if it’s family or not. I simply couldn’t deal with such people. I only like to surround myself with people I like and respect.

        So, my condolences that you have to live there AND in such a family :( And yeah “christian” is almost always synonym for “xtreme hypocrite”

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      Unfortunately, it’s a pretty solid methodology (speaking from experience). That said, you must understand that the average person is religious and poorly educated.

      Actually quite a few of these “morals” aren’t even uniquely American, except for maybe the billionaire one. You’ll probably find an interesting mix of bad takes in most countries, even in well educated European countries. There are 8 billion people on this planet and a ton of them are just terrible.

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        I won’t argue with your closing sentence. Not at all. And sure, every country has a mixed bag of no-nos. But this fundamentally Christian shit is probably a usa-signature of which I’d be highly ashamed if I had to live there.

        I can’t say for any European country, not even my own, but I’d guess we aren’t that horrible with “morals”. Well, at least i hope so.

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          I’m thinking of South American, African, Middle East and some South/South East/Central Asian countries, which is a mix of poverty and/or religious factors (for quite a variety of factors). There are countries where pornography, homosexuality, gambling, etc, are just illegal on religious morality grounds. And don’t get me started on la chancla!

          As for Europe, I’m curious. I think it’d be better, on average, but a lot of the same moral roots exist there so who knows. Although I bet Finland is swell; they somehow keep being labeled the happiest county and these things are correlated, lol.

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            Oh sure, the combination of poverty and religion is the worst breeding ground for disturbed “morals”.

            I would surely say it’s much better in EU in general. And yeah, even we Germans look up to the Nordic countries like FI, NO, S. If I could stand the languages (they just sound horrible to my ears) I would’ve emigrated long ago 😁

            I also imagine some Asian countries to be much better (in the context of this discussion, not generally). Not the Islamic ones, obviously. If I could even dream of learning the language I’d be gone to China or maybe even Japan …

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      A ton of cultures do, unfortunately. That said, it’s also just bad parenting because (1) kids model behavior, so they will “punish” other kids physically and (2) punishment is one of the least effective forms of power, often producing public compliance but not private acceptance.

      Just an fyi in case you need that in you back pocket when someone tries to argue in favor of hitting kids.

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      I think we should start hitting these people if they misbehave. After all they think it’s the right thing to do.

      NB: This is not meant seriously, I don’t condone hitting anyone.

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      The vast majority of people still believe in archaic and draconic bullshit because it is “tradition”, even to the point of ignoring all scientific evidence supporting the contrary perspective.

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      I’ve never spanked my children but if you’ve never thought that spanking a child might be a good idea then you don’t have kids. Those little shits don’t understand empathy or anything else that you’re appealing to when you say violence is never the answer. Being desperate to find a solution to their behavioral problems is totally understandable.

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        I have children and I’d lie if I said that occasionally they make me angry, and sometimes very angry. But I’m the adult, they’re not, hitting them will teach them absolutely nothing. You won’t teach them empathy showing that you have none for them when you’re angry.

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          You’ve successfully described why I don’t spank them and articulated that you understand the impulse so… Thanks for agreeing with me in the weirdest way possible I guess

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            If you recognise the urge and haven’t followed through, I assume you wouldn’t call it “morally acceptable”, but it really sounded like you were agreeing with that position originally.

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              I think it’s understandable that people feel that spanking is fine and it isn’t surprising to me at all. I don’t feel the same but it’s not a shock to see that like the original comment I replied to

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          You won’t teach them empathy showing that you have none for them when you’re angry.

          Worse than that. My parents conditioned me to hurt myself when I make a mistake. They also instilled a permanent sense of guilt. So… I hurt myself a lot. I am getting therapy. I do not see much of a future for myself, my life has never been worth living. Everyone underestimates how bad it is.

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            I’m glad you’re getting therapy. You’re right to tell people exactly how bad it’s been, because this isn’t small. I am very sorry.

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        You mean children can make you mad? Yes, of course. But never ever ever have I thought this, and I would treat anyone with suspicion who does (even if they don’t act on it). Lousy parents. Poor children!

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        For the safety of your children, please fucking educate yourself away from this draconic perspective.

        Being desperate is no excuse to abuse children.

        Edit: who is the dumbass that downvoted me for saying not to abuse children? Fix yourself.

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        dude what??? can we ban this dude from parenthood and all fertility clinics

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      I was visiting the head office of a California-based company that I worked for, and my colleagues (mostly left-leaning) were moaning about a proposal to make it illegal to hit children. After 15 minutes I couldn’t keep my mouth shut and said, “I think a society should protect those least able to protect themselves.” There was a lot of backpedaling, but also a few people explaining how it was totally necessary that they hit their children for reasons.

      I didn’t have children at the time, but my step-daughter (now 20) and son (now 17) were never punished with violence, so it is possible for sure.

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      I can sort of understand the logic, even if I disagree with it:

      If a child does something that could potentially have lethal consequences, a verbal warning might not be enough for them to understand the severity of what they did.

      That is, of course, the only reasonable situation I can think of in which spanking is acceptable.

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        Verbal warnings are not less efficient than violent punishment. It’s the contrary. If the child understands why they should not do something, they respects the rule more than if they just fears the punishment. And children understand a lot of things, if explained clearly.

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          Also: if a child only refrains from doing something because they fear possible consequences they’ll happily do it in situations where they don’t have to be afraid of being found out. So if the only thing preventing your child from chewing on high voltage cables is the threat of violence your child will get themselves electrocuted once they’re out of your eyesight. (Yes that’s hyperbole, but you get the point.)

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    Ok so a third of people think voluntary assisted dying is wrong but two thirds of people think the death penalty is totally fine.

    The fuck is wrong with people?

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    Murder animals at scale in the most horrid conditions? 4%

    Watching consensual videos of naked people? 54%


    Truly a moral dystopia

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      That is a separate issue from just eating meat in general. We are completely capable of having ethical production of meat and other animal products.

      The problem isn’t the consumption of meat but the needless waste encouraged by the capitalist system that necessitates the unethical overproduction of it.

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          We absolutely can. Ethical and sustainable practices are possible. Once workers control production, those who do the labor can choose to stop laboring if we start to become unsustainable.

          People can’t consume what isn’t produced. People will make due with what is available thanks to our innate bias towards convenience. Those who desire it as to produce it themselves will already be doing so and they will only produce so much. Without the need for profit driving them, they will have no incentive to employ unethical nor unsustainable methods and do needless labor just to fulfill people’s gluttony. In a leftist society, they will produce it as they are most comfortable in doing so (from each of their ability) and the product will be equitably distributed through different systems of collective ownership as dictated by that community (to each of their need)

          If they run out of meat, too bad. Laborers will tell people to wait till we can get more in an ethical and sustainable way or get to hunting it yourself, because they collectively control the land and resources from which it is produced and won’t be quick to agree to let a few individuals force them to be wasteful with those resources or labor on their behalf against their principles without good reason. The rare few who do decide to go hunt it would be statistically negligible.

          If every store ran out of pork due to a mass shortage, most people wouldn’t start going try to hunt boar to eat pork. They would just get something else and deal that there is a shortage.

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              What’s the confusion? We can produce ethically and sustainably. This is a fact.

              People cannot consume what isn’t produced. This is also a separate fact.

              Put them together with an understanding of logic, as explained, and you’ll see that if we control the production then we control the rate of consumption.

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                  No. You’re flipping the logic to suggest that consumption controls the rate of production. You didn’t understand what I said at all or didn’t read it.

                  I’m saying that with the current system which dictates the incentives behind production is causing us to over produce through unethical and unsustainable methods and people are simply consuming what is available, because people need to eat and they can only eat what has been produced. That is a physical, material limit of life. If society was restructured to where the workers owned the means of production and the profit incentive was done away with then the rate of consumption would logically have to be lower as a result, because people physically cannot consume what isn’t produced.

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    I’ve actually heard several different women try to argue that if a man even just looks at pornography it somehow counts as “cheating”. They were all quite upset when no one agreed with them but seemed unwilling to change their opinion. They did not appreciate my laughter but in all fairness I genuinely thought they were trying to make a joke

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      People have different comfort levels with these things. If some women don’t want their partner watching porn, that’s fine, we shouldn’t mock them for that. Of course if their partner disagrees with this stance they are free to try and persuade or leave or whatever. But that’s a personal issue for them to sort out

      Edit: you guys are literally downvoting me for saying women are allowed to have preferences

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        We really should mock it because that is a toxic and controlling behavior which shows a lack of emotional maturity.

        You’re being downvoted for enabling and making excuses for toxic behavior by trying to mask it as a simple preference like preferring blonde over brunette.

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          By this logic you could say all monogamous relationships are toxic. As long as both parties are consenting participants to the arrangement then I don’t see what the issue is

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            Personally, I do believe monogamy is toxic by being an extension of centuries of toxic cultures having influenced human society conditioning us against polyamory. Humans historically practiced polygamy until arbitrary religious and socioeconomic beliefs began to influence our society, teaching us to be ashamed of our natural behaviors.

            But that is much deeper issue with society at large which is neither here nor there.

            If someone doesn’t like their partner doing something that is harmless and not affecting them in the slightest, then they need to practice some introspection into why the actions of others that do not directly affect them or harm anyone else bothers them so much and sort that out for themselves to become emotionally mature instead of trying to control the behaviors of others.

            Also, my logic makes allowance for monogamy. In a monogamous relationship, going outside of it as one would in a poly relationship comes with the risk of STDs, which directly affects the other partner, so it makes it their business who their partner sleeps with to be able to have informed consent if they want to continue being in a sexual relationship with the individual.

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        Yeah they can have their stance. Good luck finding a partner, but there is nothing wrong with the belief.

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          In some cultures this would not be a niche belief and it will be easier to find a partner that shares these values

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            Upon consideration, I wish everyone well. I hope any such person finds their person if they look, and I hope they make each other happy.

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        Turned off by couple of the comments

        Regardless of whether it happened, the idea of laughing at someone for such a boring* opinion… one can use their words and tell the person you find it difficult not to perceive their statement as absurd (which is why you probably want to know a bit more and ask about their logic, or you’ve already moved on to a new subject or person).

        *Maybe if they talk about, say, lizard people laughing would be expected?

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      I had a gf like this, caught me looking at the fappening pics. Said I was cheating… Bout 3 months later I found out she’d been taking dick from 2 different dudes for more than a year. People will do anything to feel superior to others.

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      Haah. What if you watch porn together. Does that count as an orgy?

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      …or eating meat ! it’s mindblowing

      edit looks like 4 people among us think homosexuality is worse than eating meat

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    It makes sense that in the country were Death Penalty is considered less morally wrong than Viewing Pornography or Homosexuality, most people support (or at least don’t care about) Israel mass murdering children for the “crime” of being born Palestinian.

    That moral priority alone says that for most Americans, life is less sacred than what people do with their sexy bits alone or with consenting adults.

    No wonder America keeps making war and killing millions.

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        Prudism by itself whilst bad isn’t all that bad.

        No, the Evil part is the Love For Ending The Life Of Other People.

        Prudism alongside this is just hypocrisy - after all, unless one is reading a very, very special Bible, Christ said “Turn the other cheek”, not “Hang them by their neck until they’re dead”.

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          No it’s pretty fucking bad and mentally damaging. That’s how you end up with sexually repressed lunatics who lash out because they lack the emotional maturity to handle their biological urges.

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      Most nuanced take, clearly based upon a deep understanding of American culture and politics. We are all just bad people who love war and genocide. There isn’t one party that gave all the power to check the president away and let him do whatever he wants, and there aren’t protests with millions of people regularly happening because we all love it.

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        Last I checked Ds and Rs support Israeli genocide. Or if its too recent for you just rewind and you will find obama droning down whole wedding parties because someone didnt support US hegemony (aka was a “terrorist”). Of course Bush committed war crimes all throughout the Middle East too. Voting Blue harder isn’t going to fix your problems

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        Spare me the “American-style simpleton-politics for people who have no clue how real Democracy looks like” bullshit - the last guy which was of the “other side” in your hyper-reductive 2D fake-democracy theater system was sending 2000 lb bombs (which the American Military itself won’t use because of their high collateral damage) to Israel to blow up high density neighborhoods of residential apartment buildings with.

        There were no big demonstrations against it.

        Same thing back when Obama was blowing up weddings and killed so many innocents that he changed the definition of “enemy” to be any male between the ages of 14 and 60 so that the numbers didn’t look so bad.

        There were no big demonstrations against it either. Hell, plenty of American mindless tribalist followers of that “side” of America’s Theatrical “Democracy” still laud Obama as a great man and a great president.

        The reason why there are big demonstrations against the current one is that he’s doing in America the shit that the others mainly did or supported abroad, so now people who weren’t suffering when Biden’s 2000lb bombs were hitting Hospitals in Gaza and Obama’s drones were blowing up families attending weddings, are suffering, so its only now that they demonstrate,

        Little brown kids being mass murdered was fine for most Americans as long as they themselves were ok.

        America is a country were “I’m alright Jack” is the most important “Moral” “compass” for most people, possibly one of the worst in that regard.

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      the palestine/gaza conflict has been going on for decades, it dint affect people at the voting polls since the past few elections, even the bush wars wernt even quesitoned that much by the public. likely due to copaganda/military propaganda shows and movies.

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      40% is closer to 1/3 than 2/3, but your point still stands. The fact that 40 think homosexuality is morally wrong is nuts. It’s that damn religion thing.

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        I wasn’t talking about the “morally wrong” statistic.
        Only 37% rightfully think it’s not a question of morality at all (because WHY WOULD IT BE? It’s not a choice you can make!).
        So 63% think it is a question of morals, which is what I meant by “almost 2/3”.

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    It’s almost as if the country that was settled by all the outcast religious weirdos from Europe, somehow ended up with twisted religious morals.

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      As a parent of two very strong willed kids, I will say that spanking (distinct from beating) has to be at least on the table. It’s not the go-to, but the fallback if all else fails, and it does represent my failure to reach them, but sometimes it’s the only thing that gets them to understand how serious something is.

      In contrast, their (ultra Christian) grandma would call me soft, she used to go straight to spanking without warning, she felt that you shouldn’t threaten, just do, and they’d learn soon enough. I would much rather threaten a spanking than actually do it… And it works, at this point I haven’t spanked either kid in a couple years, though I have threatened it maybe twice in the last year.

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        Or you know, you could break the generational trauma. Just cuz you don’t do it as much as me ma did doesn’t make it right.

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        it’s the only thing that gets them to understand how serious something is

        No, also spanking is child abuse (for all the people upvoting this shit).

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          It’s not.

          The legal distinction hinges on “reasonable force”. In the U.S., parental corporal punishment (like spanking) is legal in all 50 states if it is intended for correction, is appropriate for the child’s age, and leaves no lasting injury. Abuse occurs when force becomes excessive, unreasonable, or causes physical or emotional harm.

      • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz
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        Sincerely, fuck you. As a person who experienced beating (and other physical and psychological abuse by multiple family members).

        Even if you (in your subjective opinion) beat your child just the right amount, you will probably overstep the boundary at some point. My dad used to occasionally beat me, sometimes he had a reason (which I figured out from context or was told from someone else, I was never explained what I did wrong) and sometimes, I feel like he didn’t. He once tried to suffocate me with the sofa cuishoning (the only reason I survived was because I tilted my head enough I was able to breathe), and I still don’t know why he chose to do that.

        I also had to come to school with a visible bruise around my eye (and was afraid the social services would be alerted, as at 13 I already knew that, as an Autistic, I wouldn’t be treated well).

        There was also some psychological abuse from my mother, which I won’t write about here because this is turning into a disorganized rant (but I feel like she enjoyed my pain, while my dad didn’t).

        I don’t think I learned anything from being abused, apart from being quiet and avoiding confrontation whenever possible.

        Also, “bare ass” spanking (which I haven’t experienced) is sexual abuse and no one could convince me otherwise.

        YOU are normalizing even worse types of abuse, but somehow people are fine with it.

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          I think the big distinction is “spanking” versus “beating”.

          A light slap is something that has been used for longer than humans have existed up to about 40 years ago. Like, we see that in all mamalls that raise their young. You give them a small negative consequence that hurts a little but doesn’t cause damage, no where near as much damage as if the behavior wasn’t corrected

          A human brain isn’t developed until 25, some times a clear negative consequence needs to be on the table to break bad behavior that has a much worse negative consequences. Because the child doesn’t have the critical thinking to understand how bad the potential negative from the action could be

          Tell a 6 year old not to chase a ball into the street, and they keep doing it…

          You spank them because it’s better than getting hit by a fucking car , or having a creep snatch them up if they get away from the house quickly before you notice

          That’s 1000% different than beating a kid for whatever reason the parent used justified it.

          Acting like any physical discipline is the same as whatever you experienced just isn’t logical, and you attacking others like this instead of trying to learn the difference is a common result of past abuse.

          Because even if you understand it was abuse, your brain was trained to submit to authority, so when you believe someone is wrong, you try to make them submit to your authority, instead of looking at it logical…

          You’re the perpetuating that attitude ironically enough. Which is people who were legitimately abused need to eventually see a professional to work it all out. Not saying that as a judgement, just saying that type of shit has lifelong effects.

          Anyways, try to be more civil.

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            Well, I’m not denying, that spanking isn’t way better than beating or other types of abuse, but always explain your kids what they did wrong. Kids aren’t stupider than adults, they are just less experienced. “Beating the shit out of them” is just a way to assert authority by emotionally scaring them.

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              This is some weird deja vu…

              I 100% remember that exact comment, and it looks like it happened to a couple of your comments in this thread.

              You’re from this instance tho, so it can’t be a federation thing…

              Anyways, curious enough to ask if I’m remembering wrong and you really made that comment five hours ago and not a month ago

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                Nope, I’ve been occupied with other things for a while, so I literally hadn’t opened the app for a month or so…

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          If the alternative is them getting shot by cops because they don’t think they have to get out of the car when told, I’m ok with that.

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        That’s what yelling is for, dont yell at the kids for nothing, when they’re actually about to do something dangerous you yell and it scares the shit out of them, no need to ever escalate to spanking or smacking, and it will still work when they’re teenagers and perhaps bigger than you.

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    The US population has some messed up opinions

    When I’m her death, and suffering intolerably, it’s immoral for me to check out 2 weeks early? They’d rather see me continue suffering

    A fetus has a genetic abnormality that will ensure the child will suffer for years and then die a horrible death? Sorry, abortion is morally wrong! The baby will have to suffer!

    Come to think of it, most of these fucked up opinions are religion driven. Imaginary Jeebus said it was wrong, so that settles it!

    Can’t afford a baby? Doesn’t matter, the baby must be born, it would be immoral to abort. Once the baby is born, though, fuck that baby, we don’t care, we won’t help you raise it you slut, you should have controlled those sinful urges!

    The US is such a fucked up place

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      Thinking contraception is moraly wrong ranks higher than being a vegetarian. The whole thing is bonkers.

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      Not surprised considering the roots of American culture stem from the Puritanism and Protestantism; those roots run DEEP

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      I don’t think either are fundamentally immoral, but I can conceive of a greater number of scenarios where the creation of pornography, and therefore its consumption, would be wrong. Actors who are coerced into porn, or who later regret their appearance but can’t withdraw consent. Porn industry taking advantage of underage or underprivileged people. Pornography addiction, or using porn to avoid coping with real world interpersonal issues. Those are just off the top of my head.

      Again, I don’t think porn should be illegal, not by a long shot, but it’s got a few more entanglements that I might take issue with than abortion, which 9999 times out of 10,000 should be nothing more than a conversation between a patient and their doctor.

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        All of the things you mention are of course horrible. None of them are pornography.

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    Would be interesting to see a comparison with other countries. Here in Sweden, it’s illegal to spank children, and most people are OK with that, AFAIK. Abortion is also not frowned upon in any way. We would have wildly different results on this chart.

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    My family’s from the South. I have seen some shit you wouldn’t believe.

    But 4-in-10 finding homosexuality “morally wrong” is jaw dropping, to me. Another 23%, just “acceptable.” In 2026?

    WTF.

    I thought homophobes were dying out, but apparently not.