I have a 3090, 7800, and 128GB frame from pre-rampocalypse. It’s not nothing, but there are definitely crazier home labs.

Deepseek V4 is native 4 bit.

I am running this quant, but the quantization loss is measurably low: https://huggingface.co/Downtown-Case/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731-128GB-RAM-IK-GGUF

The native MXFP4 is only a bit bigger.

which I think is only available from China right now.

Nah, 0731 weights were released. I’m running it locally right this second.

I don’t know about Deepseek API specifically, but there are tons of places to get it.

Well, the current trajectory points to:

• LLM capabilities topping out.

• All the tooling around them not keeping up anyway.

• Actual “AGI” being distant and completely unrelated to contemporary models.

• Inference costs plummeting.

The last one is critical.

Right this second, you can run Minimax H3 on a desktop for the tiny fraction of the compute/RAM OpenAI Sora took. And it’s better.

In a month, it will be ~8X faster.

You can run DeepseekV4 flash, dirt cheap, and get what Claude was less than a year ago. And it’s gonna spread to every host out there, to systems like Cerebas ASICs that don’t even need HBM.

So… Even if you’re an AI acolyte. And we go with that for the sake of argument…

We don’t actually need all that RAM for hosting generative models?

I’m very interested to see what happens to all these datacenters over the next two-three years.

They spent all this money on something that’s gonna be cheap as dirt to run, largely run locally, and that won’t need GPUs once bitnet takes off, sooo… they can’t make money off that.

What happens then?

What happens to all those Stargate RAM wafers, and excess datacenters?

GPU prices have gone up and up since RTX 2000 era, basically.

My 3090 is about as expensive than it was at launch, 6 years ago.

There were crypto slumps, many moons ago, but I don’t think that’s happening again.

Its not trivial.

Check the level1 forums, where some electronics gurus are trying to get a single adapter MI250X to even boot. The problem isn’t the adapters, but firmware that makes it difficult.

…They actually did.

I got an AMD 7950 is a crypto bust. Then a Nvidia 980 TI in the next one, dirt cheap.

Nvidia figured it out in the most recent bust though, and controlled supply fairly well.

They aren’t PC components. They’re server GPUs.

They don’t even have ROPs anymore. There was a time when the Nvidia P100/A100 could technically game, but that’s generations ago.

FYI, during the crypto busts, Nvidia bought back GPUs and basically incinerated them to keep demand for new stuff up.

…I’m pretty sure that’s what they will do again.

To be fair, people generally won’t keep up with something they aren’t interested in, much less something they are actively disinterested in. That’s reasonable.

I do have an irrational pet peeve of people making claims on something they know little about though, which is why I may have come on as hostile…

I was mistaken, I think. Apparently they used to be involved with Nebula, but that’s no longer the case.

Yeah.

The Bill Gates connection is there, but the level of influence is just a conspiracy as far as I can tell.

Oh maybe this is right. I don’t watch regularly, just remember Nebula (or something) in several of their videos.

They have directly addressed the enshittification of platforms, too.

I think it’s reasonable to downvote.

This for instance:

It’s a channel funded partly by a Bill Gates subsidiary, and has to do propaganda for them to meet its budget requirements.

May be technically true, but the implication is conspiratorial.

This:

Kurzgesagt makes low quality content that’s poorly researched…

Is an opinion I would strongly contest. “Slopaganda” doesn’t fit my impression either, especially with what they’ve disclosed about their production process.

And this:

This makes sense… They should be banned.

Sounds like advocating for a ban under false pretenses, which I am vehemently against. That’s what ultimately crosses the downvote threshold for me.

…That came out as more accusatory/singled out than I intended. I don’t mean to pile on the comment.

Is the channel perfect? No. I think they’re citation-lite in the videos, have made mistakes and had bad takes. And it’s a little oversimplified for my tastes.

But on this:

I dislike how disenting opinions get downvoted on Lemmy/technology probably more than even on reddit.

I think a downvote is a fair tool, in this case.

And unlike Reddit (at least in by browser UI), Lemmy doesn’t hide the comment when it’s heavily downvoted, which I like. The comment still gets “fair” exposure like any other comment in this thread, but that doesn’t mean people have to like it.

Other Lemmy/Piefed UIs may handle this differently, though. Not sure about that.

I’ve seen this repeated a ton, so looked into it for myself, especially the “Bill Gates influence” angle.

I don’t buy it.

They aren’t perfect, but every Kurzgesagt video I’ve seen is above par for YouTube. And on the few topics I already knew something about, they seem to cover stuff well.

The criticism, on the other hand, was (to me) entirely unconvincing when investigated. It was mostly “I personally don’t like the agenda these facts point to.”

EDIT

And all that aside:

No one should be banned for the wrong reason.

If Kurzgesagt should be taken down, it shouldn’t be from a dysfunctional AI detection filter. It should be over whatever they actually did wrong.

They are, they’re trying, they’re pushing other platforms constantly. Kurzgesagt already does, heavily.

But are users switching? Nope.

They hardly even know they exist.

Sometimes I even see such a comment on YouTube, a user questioning YouTube; yet they didn’t even watch the video long enough to see the creator promoting an alternative platform.

They’ve already scrolled to the next video, algorithmically fed to them.

YouTube has an iron grip on YT users, and they know it. Even if ALL creators band together, IMO there’s basically nothing the creators can do.

I respectfully disagree.

Have you seen what Minimax H3 can output, on a desktop? Even dirt-cheap AI video gen is basically undetectable now. I think all YouTube can filter is the absolute “bottom barrel” spammers still using some old model because they don’t know any better.

And if they train detectors on “stereotypical” AI output like Ghibli style or flat colors or whatever, they’re just going to nuke channels like Kurzgesagt while most AI slop spammers adapt to get through. There’s literally nothing for detectors to go on anymore.

…But also, YT doesn’t even care.

The filters make next quarter look better because they do catch the bottom barrel, and that’s all that matters.

If the slop videos get through, the average user won’t see the difference either, so why should they care?

Yeah, it’s bad.

Non-watermarked slop is going to be impossible to detect going forward, and the false detections are going to get worse.

The fundamental issue is the monetization scheme. It’s just too lucrative for spammers. YouTube’s economics are broken, and getting worse.

…Hence, no matter what YouTube says, YouTube is going to double down on “detectors,” because Alphabet leadership couldn’t care less about destroying longstanding creators. Their only objective is to suppress just enough spam to keep ad buyers unconcerned next quarter, no matter the long term damage; that’s someone else’s problem.

At least they’re citing the source.

TBH I don’t want a world where people repeat things from CharGPT and hide where they got it from.

This should apply to social media, too. People should qualify things with “I read this on Twitter” or whatever.

This is for their IPO.

Gotta hype and pump.

…And FYI, the spectacular drop after the IPO will be coming out of y’all’s retirement accounts.

That’s actually crazy.

For reference, Split Fiction’s development cost was ~$40 million USD over ~3-4 years, ~75 devs. That’s one of EA’s better games, and not cheap.

Yearly, $77 million could basically fund Battlefied development (with BF6 rumored to cost $400 million, maybe?).

It’s 11% of what they’re looking to cut!

Even if the rationale for the bonus is “Andrew Wilson put Battlefield back on track,” that’s still a good chunk out of the profits of ~500M of BF6 game sales so far.

It’s 1% of EA’s entire yearly revenue they last reported, $7.84B.

…Apathy?

TikTok is basically a time killer, short shots of dopamine. Such users aren’t thinking about it that hard, so it would stand to reason they aren’t considering the impact of the noise either.

I’d also posit it’s an “addiction,” akin to smokers who need to smoke somewhere they know they probably shouldn’t. Maybe they don’t have earbuds on them immediately, but they feel the pull of TikTok, so they pull their phone out and turn the audio on, anyway.

What’s more, it’s not recognized as an “addiction” by the public, so the noise doesn’t have the stigma of secondhand smoke, either.