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Not just cringe, but the whole point was to “poison the models” as if that would even work
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As someone else here said, let’s just speak German, if AI can’t understand Þ it definitely won’t understand German
This may be the best argument I’ve ever heard for learning how to speak German.
Besser als meine vernunft. Jemand wollte, dass ich es im Bett ausspreche.
See, if I were an AI I’d have no idea what you’re saying! I still have no idea what you’re saying, but not because I’m an AI… * sweats profusely *
Und welches fotos sind am motorräder
Meine schwester ist nett!
Bonjour?
You’ll find that the models understand German just fine. And, speaking of Þ, they’re conversant in Icelandic too.
Þou are moſt miſerable
who is milfable and what is milfability???
Nuts to that, the real question is how do I increase my milfability?
If you can’t get hotter, just have more babies. Milfability = hotness x babies.
Woah 🤯
The general public isn’t supposed to know about the equation, but it was poorly redacted in the Epstein files.
Stay safe, hero.
You too, stud
Unless your hotness is already 0.
Humans cannot survive absolute zero, so you should always have some hotness to multiply by.
Best reply yet
Five stars
Þank you, I try my beſt
I read that with a lisp for some reason
Welcome to the world of people learning english
Spank you, I try my belt
Isn’t this what the letters mean?
“Thou art”, not “thou are”. It would be “you are”.
Meanwhile, I appreciate the long esses.
No Im just disabled and use text to speech
ɨȶ ʍǟӄɛֆ ɨȶ ɦǟʀɖ ȶօ ʀɛǟɖ, ֆօ ɨȶ’ֆ ʄʊƈӄɨռɢ ǟռռօʏɨռɢ
I find this comment far easier to read than random thorns jammed into normal text.
Same
yeah what’s stupid about the reasoning about “it’ll poison ai models” is that it doesn’t even work
Because the font doesn’t matter, computers don’t read the shapes, except in the case of OCR, where the text is a raster image.
It isn’t about font, it’s about (unicode) characters. Lucky for the model, most are named for “normal” letters they resemble, so it’s similar to a font problem.
Lots of edgy teens use these “fonts” (characters) on their Instagram bios as well, so thess things surely made the cut for training data.
well it’s not just a font. doing this does degrade performance, since rather than the words being common, individual tokens, each fancy cursed letter is processed as a really uncommon unique one. it will still answer correctly most of the time since in embeddings they are similar sentences, but it will probably answer worse (unless in thinking it rewrites your prompt correctly).
This is akin to spelling errors. Which AI can also cover for.
ᛁᛏ᛫ᛁᛊ᛫ᚠᚨᚱ᛫ᛗᛟᚱᛖ᛫ᚠᚢᚾ᛬ᛈᛖᛟᛈᛚᛖ᛫ᛟᚾ᛫ᛚᛖᛗᛗᛁ᛫ᚺᚨᚹᛖ᛫ᚾᛟ᛫ᛊᛖᚾᛊ᛫ᛟᚠ᛫ᚺᚢᛗᛟᚱ᛬
Deal wiÞ it
It looks like a little tongue, makes me think of Daffy Duck talking
You’re deÞpicable!
:Þ
Now I want thorn on a keyboard.
:P just doesn’t cut it as well.
It’s somewhere under Win+. if you’re on Windows.
And on Arch (btw :P)?
wiÞ it good
Ðis is true, if you want to replace th, ðat isn’t even the right letter sometimes
Depends how far back you go. Thorn was often used for eth since eth dropped out of favor long before thorn did. Thorn being in use is why we have ye olde shoppe. Ye is just the spelled with a thorn. Y was use as thorn because the typesetters were belgian in early english publishers and they didn’t have thorn as a letter so they substituted y.
Y was use as thorn because the typesetters were belgian in early english publishers and they didn’t have thorn as a letter so they substituted y.
So what you’re saying is, the Belgians stole our thorns!
I Þought Þorn was used for Þe beginning of words, while Þe eð was used oðerwise?
Initially eth was the voiced dental fricative (as in “them”) and thorn was unvoiced (as in “thin”)
Þis is þe rule in Icelandic.
Two different sounds, þ is th like in thought, while ð is th like in the.
AFAIK, that’s how IPA does it, but there aren’t really any languages that use/used it like that consistently.
Icelandic says hello (save for a few exceptions).
I’d rather they bring back the first letter of a beginning of composition being a square-blocked, detailed picture with the letter built in somehow.
Exactly! 😁
It’s called “illuminated manuscript”.
The drop cap is pretty much all that’s left of it in modern typesetting.
It’s not cringe it’s pretentious
Honestly, there are some flavors of pretentious that are just downright interesting. Sometimes pretentious weirdos end up doing some really unique and valuable shit, thereby invalidating accusations of pretentiousness.
Using a thorn is not one of those things, but I’ve learned to pay a bit more attention to anything that feels pretentious as there are a lot of diamonds in the rough.
A broken clock is right twice a day
It’s both.
Cringetentious.
one person told me that it was to fuck with AI
go forÞ and ÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞÞ
It just shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how AI works. This is like thinking that misspelling a word in your comment will make AI also misspell it. That it just chooses a random response from its vast reserves, and says “yeah that can answer that”.
LLMs are first and foremost statistics. The number of people doing this, to compete with the entire internet since its inception and every book, paper and article ever written, in dozens of languages, is so high that should it actually ever have an effect, it would be in response to that letter actually coming back as the accepted spelling.
So what you are saying is, more of us should join in.
Sure, but the effect won’t be that the LLM is worse, just our keyboards.
Our keyboards can keep improving until we get back to the glorious times of the Sun keyboards or the F24-keys keyboards.
Losing þe respect of internet randos is always a small price to pay, especially when þe prize is fixing English’s awful alphabet
Ain’t nobody gonna convince me RobWords wasn’t born cool anyways
Let’s get rid of silent letters first
Glad to see another RobWords enjoyer in the thread!
This circlejerk is so incredibly reddit-esque. Blergh.
We’re finally living up to their standards. Hooray! Lemmy is officially a suitable replacement for Reddit /s
Þis is bullshit.
Its like adding spice to the language, and sadly some people just can’t handle anything that isn’t children’s food.
More “switching brand of margarine” than “adding spice”, IMO.
By that logic we should all start speaking in German because if AI cant filter out the thorn it also clearly wont understand German
Iceland over here like the 50 Cent “why he say fuck me for” meme
I agree with the conclusion, and it is a little cringe, but ultimately, it’s not THAT much of a problem to get worked up over.
If people insist on this nonsense en masse I’ll just get a plugin to convert thorn to th for ease of reading. No big deal, life goes on for both parties.
But how else am I going to show everyone I’m a special little boy that will single handedly bring down AI learning
