Ocasio-Cortez took to Instagram after the Department of Homeland Security suggested they may pursue arrests of three Democratic lawmakers who partook in a protest outside of an ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey. Reps. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-NJ), Rob Menendez (D-NJ) and LaMonica McIver (D-NJ) all attended the protest.

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      Fun to think about, but American males are not ready for a strong female presence in their lives. They can’t handle it.

      I would love for AOC to show the world her fire and Americans some grace. Not going to happen with the lot in America right now sadly.

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        Male here. Hillary was probably the worst female option who’s ever ran for president.

        Kamala wasn’t much better, and felt like a rush job to prevent Biden being an easy sweep.

        Not that I’m advocating for trump in either case. I’m just saying its like the old south park joke of douche vs turd sandwich.

        Only difference is that AOC is actually a good choice. Whereas Hillary and Kamala were never good choices.

        I would fully support an AOC run. I would vote FOR AOC. Whereas with Hillary and Kamala it felt like it was voting against trump by selecting “whoever the opposition is”.

        Which for the record, isn’t a gender thing. Biden was also “not trump” on the ballots in 2020. You didn’t vote FOR Biden. You voted AGAINST trump.

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          Hillary likely would have made a great moderate president. She was a “bad choice” only because Fox News attacked her for 20 years.

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            Downvotes but she was a cool hippy chick once. Neoliberal was the game she chose to play and it might have worked if she played more on the radical side

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        Disagree. I think that the failures of Harris and Clinton have a lot more to do with campaign and messaging failures than they do with the fact that they’re women. We’re living a populist moment, and the democrats want to rise to that with “noooo lmao everything’s fine, you’re not actually struggling at the grocery store shut up lol. Nooo we can’t offer a real policy platform to vote for, just vote against Nazis for the rest of your life and hope we never lose (we will, and we’ll blame you).”

        They’re GOING to fuck this up in 2028 if we even have elections, and they’re not going to let anyone stop them from fucking it up, not even AOC or David Hogg. Right now, Gavin Newsom is leaning hard into giving himself a republican-lite glow-up so that he can run the Newsom/Pence ticket in 2028 and try to peel off a whole six moderate republicans. Their campaign platform will be:

        • Bulldoze the homeless (now with BIGGER dozers!)

        • shut up, don’t worry about it, just keep voting against Nazis for the rest of your life and hope we never lose (we will, and we’ll blame you)

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        Maybe stop with the strawman argument and you’d get a bit further. Myself, and I’m sure plenty of others, are really sick of being painted as a villain before even entering the conversation. All you’re doing is furthering the divide, not shortening it.

        I see it all over Lemmy - angry liberals painting the opposition as vile and inhuman. Making all these strawman up. Makes other liberals not want to associate with you. Makes you seem just like the people you vilify.

        You want a society of love and acceptance? Start with yourself. Create a happy accepting vibe around yourself and make it grow from there. But don’t salt the ground and then wonder why nothing grows.

        Edit: hey geniuses downvotting me and calling me conservative scum: I’m a registered Democrat. Thanks for proving my point with more strawmen. You assume that if someone disagrees with you they’re immediately a MAGA Nazi instead of someone who legitimately disagrees with your methods and actions. You taint the discourse just as much as your opposition.

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          Yeah no, ICE deported a four year old with stage four cancer.

          If you support the felon rapist who’s spent every single decade of his life an entitled shit destroying as many fucking lives as he could…

          Nah, if you voted for Trump that is the same in my book as supporting Hitler. Supporting Trump makes you a fascist, and there is only one cure for fascism.

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            Another great strawman. I’m a registered Democrat. Thank you for proving my point. Because only a conservative could disagree with you /s

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                And yet when told I disagree with you you immediately go off about maga Nazis. That’s your strawman. You can’t stop foaming at the mouth about it while other Democrats are trying to have an actual conversation with you. Some of you are just as rabid as the people you hate.

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                  You haven’t made an argument to engage with. All you have said so far is “lefties are meanies!” Mild criticism is “foaming at the mouth.”

                  I think your problem is that you aren’t here in good faith, and that stink comes through the computer monitor.

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          your comment is exactly what conservatives say " if you argue against a conservative than you are no better than they are" get over yourself.

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            Nah, I’m a liberal getting sick of my own party and people for being hypocritical themselves.

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          Do you want to stand for something or win elections and progress? I dont care about race or sex, just like you don’t, but that’s not the reality of America today.

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      Why doesn’t she already have a problem? I was hoping AOC would be leading the charge, but she’s more like a background character.

      This screams “it doesn’t matter until it’s me.”

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    AOC reminding Americans how to be brave. Penny auctions were a thing, which implied Americans used to be able to stand up to corrupt oligarchs and monied interests. Where is that solidarity and sentiment now? Do Americans need to be poor again altogether in order to rise up?

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      I was about to write they need to make an offense first.
      But you are right, they already did that, by preventing legal oversight.
      That shouldn’t be allowed to pass.

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    You can’t defeat an enemy that you refuse to fight.

    I’m sure the Democrats will take every legal avenue available to them. However, if they run out of legal, nonviolent options, they’re going to be in a very rough spot because they don’t have any other arrows in their quiver.

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    There are going to be so many furrowed brows.

    I hope they don’t need to write another Strongly Worded Letter!

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      I’m honestly more mad at the Dems at this point for just continuing to do nothing while the right runs roughshod over the law and the people.

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    except you got enablers like schumer and hakeem bending the knee to the megadonors.

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    You can discuss all you want, they can be members of Congress or what ever but unfortunately we don’t have a Congress and we are already in a dictatorship, even if you brand it as fascism. I saw the video posted by Hasan Piker. If you listen carefully the question he was asked to answer by customs agents it shows we’re in a dictatorship.

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    Now maybe I’m being pedantic here but this does seem to slightly suggest that the ordinary citizens being kidnapped off the streets, and sent to death camps…whoops, I mean ‘prison’, without any legal support is not a problem?

    However the upper class fools doing absolutely fuck all to stop the ordinary people being abducted by the us’s Gestapo being fingered by tRUMP and his cronies is a step too far?

    I like her. Don’t get me wrong. She seems to be a good one. Speaks her mind etc etc but if she, and the congress people, would’ve had a problem about the little guys being taken on broad daylight then there wouldn’t be any need to have a problem about her unpoors being fingered!!

    Remember the German poem:
    First they came for the poors but I did not speak out for I am not poor.
    Then…

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    If the trump admin goes after congress members, they’re going after the Squad first so most democrats will be on board.

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    Hooray for more posturing! Really nice that this current administration has shown without a doubt that our entire system is full of spineless garbage that really will do nothing to balance power, which is literally why those branches of government exist. Yes AOC is a firecracker and more verbal than most. Yes, she drives change and is a speaker for a the people. But without any backup from the entirety of our gov, she’s just a megaphone yelling into a void.

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      That’d be the humanity.

      Any system without wide popular involvement turns into shit.

      Wide popular involvement requires simplicity and small number of levels, and ability to ruin and rebuild any part of the state apparatus quickly. So it’s limiting, but those limits are liberating, one can say.

      At the same time there are no good systems for that wide popular involvement, one would have to pick between Switzerland and the idealized Soviet system, neither is perfectly functional.

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    “suggested” they “may pursue”… wow. Did they fire six shots or only five? Y’know, in all that excitement, I kinda lost track myself.