The GOP’s push for the measure was driven by blatantly false claims.

The GOP’s sweeping new anti-voting bill cleared the U.S. House Wednesday, setting up a high-stakes battle in the Senate.

The House voted 218-213 to pass the SAVE America Act, which experts have said could disenfranchise millions by requiring voters to show documentary proof of citizenship at registration and to provide photo ID when they cast ballots.

Republicans have argued for voter ID broadly, pointing out that there isn’t much to prevent a noncitizen from casting a ballot in a federal election — besides the fact that it’s a felony, easily caught, and would lead to deportation all for the chance to cast one out of hundreds of thousands of votes.

  • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
    147·
    3 个月前

    This mandates government registration to access an essential right of a citizen in a democracy. Ask for the same thing for gun ownership though and the right would lose their minds.

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      3 个月前

      What’s interesting, is that many of us already do register with the state governments.

      Its goal isn’t to regulate voting. It’s to suppress it.

    • silence7@slrpnk.net
      34·
      3 个月前

      The goal here is to keep women from voting: the SAVE act very specifically requires that you

      • Prove citizenship
      • That you prove that the name on your citizenship document (eg: birth certificate) match your current name

      Because women often change name when they get married, they’ll have a mismatch, and need to spend time and money to be able to vote. If the legislation passes, it will block about 20 million Americans from voting. Because of gender disparities in voting, Republicans see this as to their advantage.

      Give your Senators a call at 202-224-3121 and ask them to block this change.

    • Triumph@fedia.io
      1·
      3 个月前

      In order to legally purchase a firearm (except in a transaction between private parties) you have to fill out a federal transfer form.

      • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
        5·
        3 个月前

        If you are the type of person who cares about the government knowing you have a gun, you will certainly acquire it through a transaction between private parties.

  • Gates9@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    84·
    3 个月前

    Last election several individuals committed voter AND election fraud. They were all Republicans.

    Let’s see ‘em in the comments if you’re inclined to display them.

    • Tangentism@lemmy.ml
      6·
      3 个月前

      More recently there’s a mayor of some town (in Texas, iirc Kansas) that’s facing deportation and multiple felony charges for voting in elections as a non-citizen.

      I’ll link to the story posted on lemmy if I can find it!

      Found it! https://lemmy.ml/post/43029958

    • KelvarCherry [They/Them]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      16·
      3 个月前

      That mentality pisses me off. Partially because they’re definitely going to rig them; but more because thousands of people are dying every week. Thousands are being disappeared. How many folks were sent to CECOT? How many people were grabbed off the street? The ICE abductions were the tipping point and tragically we failed. (It didn’t help to have all the libs yelling “DON’T FIGHT BACK!!”)

      You’re going to sit back and hold a zen zone through 2 years of holocaust? Really? The entitlement of those folks is insane.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      9·
      3 个月前

      Who do you think is saying that?

      I mean, these guys pay good money for propaganda, I’m sure they have people posting shit like that everywhere to ensure people wait

    • D_C@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      3 个月前

      Yep. I’ve been asking for months and months where the protests are, and what about general strikes and so on. All I get is “it takes time to coordinate, just you wait” “it’s starting slow but will get up some steam soon” “wait til the mids” “it’s a big country, it’s very difficult to do anything but we will sort it blah fucking blah!”
      It’s all bullshit.

      A fucking failed reality TV star, convicted criminal, idiotic bankruptcy champion, confirmed rapist and deffo child rapist took over the whole of the uNazied States of america in less than a year and 99% of their population did fuck all about it. Fuck and all.

      After decades of them watching action movies whilst stroking their guns and threatening to shoot anyone who encroached their freedoms…yet a fucking orange geriatric paedo went full dictator on them without as much as a whimper. Pathetic.

      • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
        6·
        3 个月前

        and what about general strikes and so on.

        A general strike is desperately needed, but it genuinely isn’t as easy as just calling for one and hoping everyone jumps onboard. Unions need to coordinate together to organize a proper one that won’t fizzle out, which I will admit has been an agonizingly slow process, but it does appear to be happening.

        The best thing we can do in the meantime is to unionize our workplaces if it isn’t already, help a friend unionize theirs, speak up at union meetings about the importance of preparing and organizing a general strike (set up strike funds, contact other unions and mutual aid orgs to plan a date and resources, etc), and joining a local mutual aid group that will help us weather the strike.

        I’ve been spreading this guide showing how to prepare for resistance as far and wide as I can. If you’d like to chip in and spread that as well, you have my full permission to copy and paste it wherever you think it’d get the most eyeballs (that goes for anyone else reading this too, your help would be much appreciated. Just try to make sure you post it where it won’t be totally off topic and unwelcome).

        You can access the markdown version of that guide by clicking the little page icon with the folded edge beneath it (on lemmy through the browser), so you don’t have to manually copy the links or the formatting.

      • faythofdragons@slrpnk.netEnglish
        5·
        3 个月前

        I’ve been asking for months and months where the protests are

        Both the middle school and the high school in my tiny rural town did a walkout today. There’s a protest every day outside the local ICE facility. There have been soft strikes as grassroots support networks form.

        If you think nothing is happening, it’s because you’re not doing anything. Get involved.

    • Mommy Longarms@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      3 个月前

      I don’t think I’ve seen a single person saying that. Plenty saying that you should vote when mid-terms roll around, but none saying that you shouldn’t be doing anything before or after.

  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
    35·
    3 个月前

    When the fuck do we just start killing politicians and billionaires? Seriously. Why are we still pretending like laws mean anything in this fucking country?

  • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
    33·
    3 个月前

    It’s a disgusting attempt to disenfranchise millions of women and anyone else who changes their name, or doesn’t have time/money for the hassle, but it’s also only one prong of the attack. The name match requirement would be at the time of voter registration, so wouldn’t affect current voters unless… Massive swaths were purged from the voter rolls - this is a reason why the feds keep suing for voter roll information from states, and why red states have complied

  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
    29·
    3 个月前

    The GOP voted to take away the rights from almost every married woman in the country, think about that for a second and you’ll understand why they even made the SAVE act.

    They claim it’s about immigrants, but it’s truly about taking away the right to vote from people the GOP doesn’t like. So if you aren’t a rich, white, male, you cannot vote under GOP rule.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      4·
      3 个月前

      I wonder how much of the push behind this is from asshole men worried that their kinder wife is secretly voting against the republicans.

    • Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      3 个月前

      Weren’t conservative white women and “trad wives” blamed wholesale for Trump’s 2024 win?

      Shouldn’t this be giving Democrats a collective erection?

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 个月前

      The GOP voted to take away the rights from almost every married woman in the country

      No, they didn’t. This isn’t going to be enforced in heavily Republican districts where women are loyal conservative voters.

      • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 个月前

        Yeah, they did. How it may or may not be enforced has no bearing on whether or not they voted for it. Which they did.

  • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
    28·
    3 个月前

    Well done american voters! And a special shoutout to all the sitouts who stood idly by and let a fascist child rapist in on their watch.

    • Stop Forgetting It@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      17·
      3 个月前

      My friend changed her name socially, but not legally about 18 years back purely because she was too lazy to do all the paperwork it took to change your name. Now, her husband says it was one of the smartest choices she could have done and I agree.

  • kurmudgeon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    3 个月前

    GOP is scared. They know, short of gestapo-like tactics this November, their days are numbered.

      • Sektor@lemmy.world
        3·
        3 个月前

        It’s not what they’re capable of, it’s what they are able to do without repercussions. When there is no penalty people can do very bad things, like in war.

        • jj4211@lemmy.world
          1·
          3 个月前

          The repercussions will be at worst felt by the grunts on the ground, and those repercussions will be used as an excuse to somehow disregard contentious voting site results…

  • SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
    18·
    3 个月前

    Married women can’t vote because the names don’t match.

    This will skate through the Senate. Elections in the USA won’t mean shit after this.

    • ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
      4·
      3 个月前

      A “real ID”, a state driver’s licence or identity card which was verified with a birth certificate, passport or citizenship certificate.

      • Sludgeyy@lemmy.world
        12·
        3 个月前

        A real ID does not mean US citizen. Non-US citizens can receive a real ID. It just proves you are a lawful resident in the US.

        Same for drivers license and ID card.

        A birth certificate does no good on it’s own. And verifying a birth certificate is another can of worms. If it can only be the official government issued one? Then you get into the whole birth right citizen thing. You can easily be a US citizen without being born in US.

        Passport would be the closest thing to a true “Citizen ID”. US Nationals can receive a US passport without being citizens.

        Citizenship certificates would fix the birth certificate problem of US citizens being born outside of the states. However they cost 1k+. Maybe they can make them cheaper or hand them out?

        It’s laughable how bad identification is in the US. We still use social security numbers.

        I wouldn’t be against Voting IDs if everyone was issued one for free and replacements were easy and inexpensive to obtain.

      • Psythik@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 个月前

        I have my birth certificate, federal ID, and social security card handy. If that’s not good enough, they can go fuck themselves. How much more proof does one need?

  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
    9·
    3 个月前

    The US was always doomed to fail. You can’t make a nation out of an empire. You can’t build a democracy on top of slavery, colonialism and genocide.

    I think there are some well meaning people trying very hard to make it work, and god bless them, but they’re certain to fail.

    The only thing to do now is try and find a viable exit strategy. The US Federal government will soon be completely and permanently taken over by the terrorist organization that is the Republican party. It’s time for states to start forming their own, independent militias while the 2nd amendment at least still exists. We can hope that peaceful secession will be possible, but we certainly cannot plan on it.

  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
    8·
    3 个月前

    I’m a Canadian so I don’t have to put up with this… but I don’t think I could legally prove citizenship on the spot though.

    I do have a birth certificate, but it’s damaged, and would be considered invalid. It would cost me money to replace.

    • Soup@lemmy.world
      5·
      3 个月前

      In this case it literally doesn’t even begin to matter for us because all we need is our voter registration paper that government mails to us. We can bring other stuff but that’s it.

    • dudesss@lemmy.ca
      1·
      3 个月前

      In Canada, you can go to your provinces service website to order a new one. They will mail it to you.