I recall that happening, but I would note that the division in the Republican Party was between MAGA and the “Tea Party” fiscal conservatives, the latter of which have all been branded “Republican In Name Only” and cast out. This division was also why the MAGA plan to refuse to certify the Electoral Vote on Jan 6th, 2021 failed. I’m not talking about the insurrection – there was a genuine argument being made to try to overturn the electoral votes of several key states that voted for Biden, with passionate arguments made for and against completely rigging the election in Trump’s favor.

That speaker debacle was during Biden’s term, after the ousting of Kevin McCarthy specifically because Kevin McCarthy was one of those fiscal conservatives. The Republicans did eventually elect Mike Johnson, and I don’t see him getting kicked out any time soon.

We can not cling to this vision that the Republican Party will collapse in on itself. It’s a nice thought, but us waiting around is exactly what our rulers want. There are US Military soldiers and secret police agents on our streets right now – Today – trafficking people right now. Every day that we continue to play this routine, participating in the corporations and institutions that engineered and empowered this crisis, the USA and the corporations and the Christian Nationalists all get what they want.

A General Strike could put some strain between the corporations and the politicians, but that’s a movement that each of us must partake in. Right now, big business including Silicon Valley, as well as the Christian Nationalists, are quite content with the status-quo.

UK moment. If this was a Muslim group, they would have been hauled off for “terrorism” well before the story hit the press.

I really doubt Congress is going to start forming factions. Republicans are all in it for the grift, except for a handful of looneys that really believe what they say (and, to their credit, are working on the Epstein files). Most Republican Congressmen do not care about their representees, definitely not enough to stick their own necks out. Two Republicans dissented on the “Big Beautiful Bill” purely based on spending concerns, which is the entire Tea Party Republican viewpoint. Two.

Your scenario also assumes that support of Congress is needed. The White House already has their Gestapo, ICE, as well as the actual US Military. They’ve broken Supreme Court orders, some of them unanimous 9-0 decisions.

I do believe the White House will continue to play along with Congress for as long as Congress obeys, them – just to preserve the veil of normalcy. Should Congress actually attempt to impede the regime, they’ll be ignored, or if deemed preferable, taken out.

We’ve seen the military attack citizens, seen ICE arrest members of Congress, and we’ve seen MAGA hold state legislators hostage. The same country that tormented innocent civilians in nations like Iraq, has turned its guns on its own. To assume that any legal action can stop the regime is to utterly ignore reality. There was nothing legal about George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq or Afghanistan. The US Military does not follow the law, it follows orders. The Constitution has been shredded in every sense but literal. The only way one can believe we have any protection is to presume that “it would never happen here”… in the face of “it” happening here.

I totally agree with all of this about Trump’s voters, and at this point I’m 100% sure that if you beamed us back into the 2024 Election, Kamala Harris would win by a landslide.

BUT I think the White House itself is rather unified. Sure, the Republicans may never have the support of the majority of the USA, but they don’t need to win another election. All the Republicans need is control of the military, which they can stuff full of young, hateful men who have been groomed into rage and thoughtlessly following orders… which is already underway.

JD Vance, Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, Kash Patel, Peter Thiel – they’re all united in their Christo-fascist beliefs. Hell, if Trump had mental capacity to do more than sign the documents placed in front of him, he would probably be the biggest wrench with their plans. In his first term, Donald Trump openly countered Mike Pence’s statements on key Republican issues like gun rights. In this administration, Elon Musk was the most “out there” from the rest in being a libertarian 4chan incel manchild, but he’s now entirely out of the scene.

The MAGA voter base may never be as supportive of the regime as they were in 2024, but that’s not going to matter unless that fractured voting base pulls off an effective insurrection.

think of the children!!! :< :< :< :< :<

I stopped talking to most people I knew because getting “i don’t do politics” as a dead-end to every response is just disheartening.

I was a shut-in before the 2024 Election. I figured social spaces there were somewhat immature because the mature people would have jobs and real life involvement. Then I started going outside, and I lost all hope. I’m too stupid for people to be this dumb. (Though I’ll admit, social media, algorithmic content, and the AI products probably made people dumber.)

the “peaceful means” are We the People rolling over and allowing the alt-right to continue deploying military and Gestapo agents in our streets and communities.

We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be,"

~ Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, 2024

if everyone stops believing in peaceful change, the only thing that will be fucked is shareholder profits ;)

I’m genuinely unsure whether having Vance or Trump as president would be worse. I’m not sure whether Trump’s incompetency is saving or dooming us more.