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      Nah, as a small breast kind of man I get the best of both worlds. And the men I’ve met and talked with about this who think bigger boobs are better have a big overlap with thinking bigger is better when it comes to cars, houses, wallets etc. too. In general fragile masculinity, they use big things to make themselves feel like their view of manly men. Definitely not saying this is only the case, and also not kink shaming, it’s just been a thing that’s been proven many times.

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      Almost looks like an explosives vest. They should make one styled like a claymore with the “front toward enemy” text on it

      Edit: it should still have the bow because you deserve to feel pretty while shredding your enemies in a hail of steel shot

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        They used to make 'torpedo" style bras back in the 1960’s. They so pointy they could poke and eye out…

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          Most fashion trends come back around every 20 years or so, but this one hasn’t for some reason:

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              I’d love to see this make an appearance in the Fallout LA series. It would be so appropriate in that time period, and especially so because of the nuclear metaphor. This really seems like something that would become popular in the Fallout universe.

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      And like 95% of the fun of having big old titties is getting to show a little cleavage if you want to. But the bra makers don’t want to let you wear anything more low cut than a t-shirt. Give me sexy bras I can wear under sexy clothes you jerks!!

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        This has always bothered me. I’m a C cup, so most fashion is made for me to show cleavage.

        But I’ve done some fashion design (mostly historical fashion), and I’ve seriously wondered why larger bust sizes have such outsized undergarments. Like more than seems necessary.

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      Oooh this takes me back. When I was 11, something like this in a Sears catalog would have basically been porn for me.

      Then a year later we got the internet.

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          We didn’t have the free porn back then that we have today, though. We had to settle for whatever spicy content was shown on the login page for websites.

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            No, we had free porn, it was just harder to find and would take fifteen minutes to load a non-potato quality file. Often, your browser would just give up before it even loaded a nipple.

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    CUP SIZE IS RELATIVE TO BAND SIZE.

    I need every man here to stop talking about ‘D cups’ for side like it means anything. It sounds as stupid as saying ‘100 moneys is a lot of money’ without stating the currency.

    Here is a chart of sister sizes. Every row is the same volume, meaning that a 40A, 36C, and 30E are the same volume, just different shapes.

    Now, it is true that it’s harder to buy nicer looking bras for d-cups and above, but that’s because big bra has been pushing for bra conformity for decades and shoving women into a narrow range of sister sizes at sleazy stores like victoria secret so that they don’t have to make a larger variety of sizes. The result is that women who want a bra that fits have to pay a premium, and bras are expensive as is.

    Bras are not just clothing, for many women there is a medical need for one due to back pain and other conditions. Yet, the bra industry cares more about the sales volumes of their 36Cs than the fact that half the women wearing them are likely wearing the wrong size.

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        I know this was a rhetorical question, but here’s a real answer anyways.

        Evolution isn’t smart, and it doesn’t care if something kills you, so long as you can pass the genes on first. Boobs are for feeding babies. If more mammary tissue mean you can make more milk for your baby, you’ve got a better chance of your child surviving infancy and passing that gene on.

        Also, boobs are a large percent fat, which functions as both nutritional and hydration reserves that are used during pregnancy/breastfeeding to ensure the baby survives and passes the gene on.

        For better or for worse, my back pain doesn’t make me any less sexy.

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    My poor wife is one of those that needs the industrial-strength scaffolding, and still managed to run a half marathon without black eyes and a broken jaw recently.

    Bra engineers are underrated.

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    It’s all just an engineering problem. It takes a lot more to support a heavy load than a light load…

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      It’s not just an engineering problem. Larger bras can be hard to find in interesting and fun colours, and there’s no reason why we can’t have pretty colours too. Plus even in smaller bras that have fancy trims and edgings, lace overlays and decorative strappy elements, they exist in addition to the main support structure of the bra, on top of it. There’s no reason why this couldn’t be done for larger bra sizes too.

      It actually is done by more niche makers, so it’s definitely possible. Ewa Michelak, for example, is a Polish bra maker that is extremely well regarded amongst people who want their over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder to look pretty and make them feel sexy too. Here’s an example of something from their range for people with “very large busts” (Mildly NSFW) to give an example of what I mean.

      Buying bras from abroad is a faff, and extra expensive due to import fees, but the fact that I know multiple people who do it speaks to how the quality and availability of the majority of bras for large boobs is just rubbish, both in support and aesthetics.

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        there’s no reason why we can’t have pretty colours too

        The reason is the bell curve of body shapes and the marketing departments in the mainstream companies desire to only target the very middle of the bell curve.

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    I can’t relate to this thread for … reasons … but if anyone wants to explain to me why a jockstrap maker can’t produce something that can contain an entire scrotum without it sticking out the sides like someone deflated a skin balloon, let me know.

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      At least for the pockets thing it’s a difference between what women think they want and what they actually want. When most women say they want pants with pockets, what they mean is pants that look the same as the ones they already have, but also with pockets. That’s impossible to make, so women are forced to choose between tight pants that highlight their figure and pockets and they choose the former. As for bras, after a quick google my less than educated guess is that because bigger bras have rapidly increased in demand in the past two decades (and even then many wear bras that are too small), at the turn of the century business execs were right to consider bigger bras to be a marginal market with no point in worrying too much about it. Now, however, they’re just out of touch. If I’m right hopefully this will correct itself once someone wakes up to the business opportunity.

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        I don’t necessarily think you’re point is even wrong, but please know “it’s a difference between what women think they want and what they actually want” is so unbelievably condescending. Perhaps focus more on the difficulties of tailoring and less on deciding for women how they feel?

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          That’s a fair point, I could’ve said that in a less condescending way, but “customers don’t know what they want” is an important piece of the puzzle here.

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        I’ve not seen womens pants available with larger pockets and non-form fitting. I’m not sure you can say it’s just a choice issue when the choice would be to just buy mens pants instead.

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          My source here is basically Reddit so I’m not sure how true this is, but I’ve heard multiple times that businessmen occasionally try to invest in women’s pants with pockets but they don’t get enough demand to make a profit. There are still some who have managed to make money this way so there are places that sell pants with pockets, but it’s a small market. And no, I have no idea what those places are.

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            I think the problem is that the vast vast majority of women’s clothing, especially fast fashion, lacks pockets of good size (or any at all). The smaller places that make garments with good pockets are usually priced higher because they’re inherently not targeting the mass market (because they can’t compete with the big companies, so their only hope is to carve out a niche in the high quality domain)

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        Every time the pockets-in-pants thing comes up:

        Women in the comments: OMG yes please what we have now sucks

        Men in the comments: well acktually…

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          I mean, customers not knowing what they want is a thing. When someone says “I’d like it if this thing had that functionality,” they’re not necessarily considering all the externalities that might make their preference less desirable. What women have now sucks, but according to a large majority the alternative sucks even more, so the status quo persists.

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              Aren’t women’s pants (other than leggings) with pockets very rare? How do you even have enough of a sample size to draw conclusions about this? Besides, women who decide (or never got to decide) against getting pants aith pockets wouldn’t complain about the pockets, would they?

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                Pants often have pockets, but too small even for a normal sized wallet, or a smaller phone. And women who buy pants with shitty pockets absolutely complain about the pockets. Literally just this week, I complimented someone on her handbag, and she thanked me, and proceeded to complain about shitty pockets that necessitate having bags (she wished that she had good pockets, because then having a nice bag could be a deliberate, aesthetic choice, rather than a necessity.

                Pants are generally crap, but they’re not the only thing that can have pockets: skirts and dresses can too. I love how often I compliment someone on their dress, and they put their hands in their pockets and say “Thanks! It has pockets!”. When I first saw this meme, I was delighted to see someone describing the exact same thing that I love seeing. Every time I see that posted, I see loads of people commenting on agreement. There is a truly incredible amount of solidarity in the experience of shitty pockets on women’s clothes. When we do find clothes with good pockets, it’s so exciting that we can’t wait to share that fact with anyone who compliments us on the outfit.