Donald Trump says he “won’t be extorted” by Democrats to reopen the government, making clear that he has no plans to negotiate as the government shutdown will soon enter its sixth week.

In an interview on CBS’s “60 Minutes” that aired on Sunday, Trump said that Democrats who are demanding an extension in health care subsidies “have lost their way” and predicted that they will eventually capitulate to Republicans who have said they won’t negotiate until they vote to reopen the government.

“I think they have to,” Trump said. “And if they don’t vote, it’s their problem.”

Trump’s comments signal that the shutdown could continue to drag on for some time as federal workers, including air traffic controllers, are set to miss additional paychecks and as there is uncertainty over whether 42 million Americans who received federal food aid will be able to access the assistance. Senate Democrats have now voted 13 times against reopening the government, insisting that they need Trump and Republicans to negotiate with them first on an extension of Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to expire at the end of the year.

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    Finish the sentence, buddy. Extorted to do what exactly?

    Oh that’s right, reduce people’s healthcare premiums by 300%

    Edit: just to be completely accurate, premiums have gone up by ~300% because the subsidies ended. Bringing them back will bring that back down.

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      It’s really more that they’re trying to “extort” him into not raising premiums. The Democrats aren’t trying to strongarm reduced prices; they’re trying to stop price gouging.

      On a longer timeline, they’re “extorting” him into not killing a few million people. And he’s throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to allow anybody to get in the way of this easily preventable mass death.

      Even if a person is so heartless that they don’t give a shit about that and only cares about money, that’s gonna lead to fewer workers, fewer purchasers of goods and services, and less free time to enjoy purchases. So even the inhuman sludge monsters of capitalism should see that this is gonna be bad for business and be against this. There’s literally zero benefit to doing this if you look beyond the current financial quarter unless your goal is to destroy the country and hurt people.

      It’s like shitting diarrhea all over the birthday cake so it can all be yours, but it’s your own fucking birthday party. The art of the deal.

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      Sorry to be that guy. But they’re not wanting to reduce premiums by 300%. That would make premiums -200% of what they were before. They want to reverse the increase of 300%. Which is actually a reduction of 75%.

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    1 in 8 people are about to be shunted out of assistance and in to the worst inflated grocery market Ive seen in my lifetime. You know what happens when people are hungey? They get desperate.

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        I think a lot of people here think that riots will be some sort of end game that will remove Trump when it will actually be the next step in his plan to enact martial law and cancel elections.

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          they do not need an excuse, if they want martial law they will invent a reason like they did the last bunch of times. do not advocate for inaction

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            Of course they need an excuse. They may have the house and supreme court in their pocket but there’s still the army and the rest of the world. If they would try to enact martial law out of nowhere the military leadership may simply refuse to enforce it and if they do, other countries will de-invest from US real quick and may even put some sanctions on the government.

            Also, I’m not saying people shouldn’t do anything. I’m just saying consequences of some actions will be different than they imagine.

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              the last excuse was some nobody got car jacked, and instituted the lockdown of two cities. they do not need an excuse when they can manufacture one. the military leadership has not stepped in, and when there was a coup, they were also awol from their duties, waiting to see how things shook out. And currently other countries are scrambling to divest from the US real quick. the rest of the world will not help us.

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    A boomer told me Trump wants the shutdown to be 47 days because he’s the 47th president, and it’s stupid enough I believe it could be possible.

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      Oh my god. Someone I know that works at a prison told me he thinks he shutdown will end by the middle of November, are you telling me that THIS is the reason why he said that? It’s so bizarre, it’s probably true. SMH.

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    If any democrats cave to their Healthcare plans or any other rediculous shit the republicans have planned, I’m not voting for those democrats. The democrats needs to grow some balls, cuz I’m tired of them giving in and chuck Schumer writing strong letters.

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    Oh, the guy that half of the voting populace were conned into thinking he’s good at making deals is refusing to make any kind of deal whatsoever?

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      Theydies and gentlethem. Kings and Queens and In-Betweens.

      But yeah, a lot of people are gonna die, and I’m not sure whether that’s from resistance to this or punishment for not bowing hard enough fast enough.

      We had one black president and a third of the country lost their fucking minds, put a fascist in charge, and nuked our standing on the world stage now and forevermore. Hard times are coming, and that third deserves worse than they’ll get, another third won’t realize what’s happened for weeks, and the final third will be the “alarmists” saying I fucking told you so.

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    Ignoring the demands of the masses and having a lavish lifestyle while everyone else is starving.

    This guy is on track for pulling a Louis XVI.

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    There’s probably no way Democrats don’t fold, assuming their party even exists for much longer. So far I think they’ve just been underestimating the callousness of Republicans.

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      Unfortunately this is what I see happening too. The Republicans are perfectly fine saying “fuck you” until the end of time, but Democrats know they will eventually have to give up. :(