Hollywood stars are speaking out in protest after an “AI actress” named Tilly Norwood attracted agency interest.

Norwood is an entirely virtual creation owned by Xicoia, a talent studio attached to the AI production company Particle6.

Deadline reported yesterday that several Hollywood talent agents are interested in signing Norwood.

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    This feels like an archaic system clinging to life.

    Why would middlemen like agencies, talent studios and ‘AI production companies’ be needed for what is essentially CG?

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    Everything about this “news” story would have been easy for Tilly’s owners to orchestrate as publicity for their projects

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    Does it creep anyone else out that the first “AI actress” they’re trying to sell is a very young woman? It could’ve been literally anyone else. This is a character who can’t say no, can’t lay down boundaries, can’t say something is unrealistic. If they want to show her flying on Epstein’s private plane or getting shot at school, there’s nothing to stop them.

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      Does it creep anyone else out that the first “AI actress” they’re trying to sell is a very young woman?

      Watching “The Substance” and thinking that it would be better as a Black Mirror episode.

      This is a character who can’t say no, can’t lay down boundaries, can’t say something is unrealistic.

      In fairness, if we took every pedophile on earth and slapped a GACHA game in front of them to occupy their horny energies indefinitely? I wouldn’t hate the idea of alienating and commoditizing this particular corner of the population.

      At the same time, there’s definitely a Pete Hegseth tier mental disorder that comes out of being perpetually surrounded by women who can’t/won’t say no. Eventually, you’re going to have people who immerse themselves in this video game put the device down and try to interact with the real world on the same terms.

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      Ai is really only good at creating young women because that’s what 90% of headshots online are

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      Go browse image generation models up for download on https://civitai.com/. Even when you’re not signed in, almost all the models are advertised with generated images of young looking women. And if you create an account and turn on not safe for work, it gets even worse because everything then becomes highly pornographic, because that’s what people use the models for primarily.

      That is what 95% of image/video generation is used for, creating porn for mostly young looking women.

      So it makes sense that’s what they’re trying to sell here, not saying it’s right or moral. Feeling creeped out is probably an appropriate response for many people

      For me, I don’t really care. Sex sells, that’s how it’s always been and will continue to be into the future.

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        Long term I do think it’s an improvement, there will always be a demand for porn so creating it virtually without economically coercing young women to do it is “harm reduction”. In the future with VR and cyberdildonics it might even make prostitution / sex work mostly obsolete.

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    Eventually it’s gonna happen.

    We’re not there yet, and we’ll start seeing it from the bottom up when it actually happens.

    It’s already used for crowds, next is extras walking down the street, then once it gets to speaking lines the stars will have to worry. The won’t be replaced till last, but eventually making a movie won’t involve a single camera.

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      We might actually get a proper indie scene. AI is going to pull us out of the Hollywood bullshit era.

      Soulless marvel character showcases disguised as feature films won’t cut it anymore.

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        Soulless marvel character showcases disguised as feature films won’t cut it anymore.

        I already don’t believe it should cut it, but the masses are the stupid masses.

        We might actually get a proper indie scene. AI is going to pull us out of the Hollywood bullshit era.

        And how do you propose this would happen?

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          If anybody can build a scene in blender with some rough models and untextured puppets, then generate over that into something that looks like movie quality, the studios just lost their whole industry.

          They have a monopoly because of the costs associated, AI destroys those costs essentially. It’s also the main reason why these “talent agencies” will fail, AI actors are going to be a dime a dozen.

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      It’s being used by the government to fake the president. If it can fool the dumb country bumpkins it can be used in Hollywood. Future media is gonna be lifeless and uncanny.

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      HA that’s funny, not even the people behind the original Chinese curse probably thought such evil was even possible, or maybe they thought it would be funny?

      Goddam I wish these were merely “interesting” times.

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    Honestly I think it might be best to simply ban AI actors looking like humans.
    I fear it may cause even more unrealistic standards than having almost perfect actors, and people may feel even less as part of a society than they do now.

    I can see how it can be practical and cheaper and all that, but if the depiction of humans stop to be actual human, I think we may be walking into a whole new set of problems in the future.

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      CGI actors, too.

      And stunt men, if you’re going to depict a famous actor doing something dangerous it’s false advertising to have someone else doing it for him.

      We should probably ban makeup as well.

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    So people who only got overpaid because of the way they look are upset about being undercut by something because of the way it looks?

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    Thumbnail has a framed movie poster of my favorite film of all time:

    “fffff”

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      Check youtube shorts. Videos have filters now to make them look like AI. Kids on youtube are already brainwashed into thinking AI is fun. AI actors and models are like any other product. If you hype it enough kids will love it.

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        What are the filters to make it look like AI? I’m not sure what that means. When I hear “looks like AI”, I imagine “has 7 fingers per hand, inconsistent art styles, and has really weird things when you look closely at the details”

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            Hmm…I didn’t downvote you, but I don’t think that’s designed to look like AI. I’m not well-versed enough in film to suggest what look they are going for though.

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              Of course it is designed to look like AI.

              The lighting, the colors, blurred background, unnaturally smooth skin, the weird shine.

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                I’m not seeing it. I think what we’re seeing is the video trying to match an art style that is highly “over manufactured”, which AI can look like as well.

                I think it’s kind of like Botox in video form.

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    All these virtual persona companies are going to fail. It’s basically just grifters trying to make a quick buck on the new technology.

    Anyone can create an “AI actress” in a few clicks now. Should Hollywood be worried? Yes, but that isn’t a bad thing and it’s definitely not these fake talent agencies that are going to reap the rewards.

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    Norwood is an entirely virtual creation owned by Xicoia

    Current US law has been reluctant to allow copyright for AI generated works. At least until this industry throws gobs of cash at Congress and a motor coach at scotus.

    So what’s to stop somebody from recreating “Tilly” for their own use?

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      Even if the AI output itself is public domain, you can trademark the characters involved and you can copyright the work that the output is a part of. This isn’t likely to be a big obstacle. If I generate an image of Mario, for example, the fine folks at Nintendo can still get on my case about it. And if I’m making a movie and the Mona Lisa comes into shot the movie remains my IP regardless.