• Epzillon@lemmy.world
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    Am I stupid or whats the joke? Women cant use tools?

    EDIT: It is indeed just me being stupid, I didnt read the post properly and jumped the gun too early based on what im used to around me.

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      Generally, those who need to ask how to install a drill bit into a drill are not typically the people who should turn around and immediately proceed to drilling holes into important things.

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        They also tend to underestimate the amount of torque power tools have.

        Also, what is she planning on drilling?

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          That happens to old heads too, because they’re used to 5-amp universal motors and then they get their hands on a tool that has twice the input power and 4x the output power.

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        And they live in the same house. And now you need to go tell the person you love that they shouldn’t do work on the house they also live in.

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      I see it as more that, if you can’t figure out how to load the chuck on a drill, you shouldn’t be using one without supervision; gender irregardless.

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      If you don’t know how to put a drill bit in a drill, then no, you shouldn’t drill a hole.

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      I think it’s telling you jumped to assuming it was misogynistic. That means either you don’t know how to use power tools (then this joke targets you too), you’re looking for a reason to be offended, or a mix of both. I hope it’s just the first.

      Others have explained the joke, I’m just pointing out that maybe you should default to assuming it’s not misogyny.

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        Pardon me for not properly reading. I did not want to assume misogony yet this is what I am commonly accustomed to around me. After reading the explanations and re-reading the post it is indeed “just me who is stupid”. Not trying to cause controversy or drama, just literally curious to what I asked. Probably should have made sure I understood the original post before commenting. Thats on me, so sorry about that.

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          No worries.

          I see a lot of people online who seem to like getting angry, and often create ridiculous narratives to make anything sound offensive. A lot of that is posted here, and I just wanted to be sure that wasn’t the case here.

          My post is also intended to be read by others, to hopefully encourage some introspection by those who actually get mad and find offense in posts like this. I find assuming best possible intent is usually best and more often correct than not. I felt your post was a genuine misunderstanding, but worded in such a way that others could interpret it differently, hence the post.

          Anyway, have a great day!

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            I understand your concerns. I see it alot aswell, thankfully my experience on Lemmy has been way more constructive and understanding.

            I can see why my post seemed to be constructed in a way to create drama but I genuinely just wondered if i missed the joke or if it was misogony, nothing more to it. I dont know how, but i missed the entire “put the bit in the drill part” and my head just summarized it to “girlfriend is going to drill a hole -> i panic” which seemed very confusing to me and not what im used to on here.

            Also seeing the community was based around Twitter kinda helped my brains stupid narrative since that place is its own forest fire.

            Anyways, sorry for the confusion, thanks to everyone for clearing it up, and have a nice day 🙏

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      Your question seems pretty innocent. I didn’t get it either until I read the responses to your comment. Your comment is getting a weird number of downvotes.

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        Yes. No, but my autocorrect doesnt add them since my first language isnt English (mostly use Lemmy from my phone). Cant be arsed to since 99.9% of people online will still be able to understand what I write. Ofc I do use apostrophes when Im on keyboard.

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    There’s a painting of Hobbiton that has been sat in my living room for two years because I dare not hang it up for fear of doing it wrong. Last time I tried to hang anything up (a clock in that case) the plaster just came off the wall around it and I had to pay to get it fixed. That was with just a hammer and a hook! I’m not getting a drill!

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      I am not paid in anyway (I wish) but there’s a brand called Command that makes hooks with adhesives for hanging things up. They have ones specifically for paintings that distribute a lot of wait across multiple hanging points. That might be worth checking out! The adhesive also comes off of the wall without any damage. You pull down on the strip and it dislodges the glue via stretching or whatever so it pulls it off without messing with the wall. At least from personal experience with the ones I’ve used and I’ve used the painting ones to hang an 8lb piece of shit.

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        Yes, but follow the instructions - mainly clean the wall before sticking it on - use isopropyl alcohol - and stuck it to the wall and wait for a while before you load it up.

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        Agreed. They have different strengths as well. Just make sure you get one that can hold the weight and won’t come off and take paint with it.

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          The place I’m renting has been painted over so many times that it’s highly likely a few layers will come off if you hang anything heavy, regardless of the rating of the adhesive.

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        I can second those work really well despite my dismissing them for years. Just make sure to get the right type for the job.

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        Those are a godsend. I have something similar at home, although it’s a different brand. I think it’s called “Tesa” or something like that.

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      If it’s a plaster wall / dry wall don’t use the masonry anchors mentioned by the other person lol.

      Just go to a hardware store and ask for a ‘hollow wall anchor’. My favourite type is wall mates. Watch a youtube video on how to put them up with any cheap screwdriver!

      (If it matters I use this stuff daily in my job)

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          Oh, in that case you need a rotary hammer with a masonry bit to put a hole in the brick or concrete, plus dedicated concrete screws to fasten. If the object you’re hanging is light enough, you may be able to use adhesive instead.

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      Drywall anchors are required for hanging heavier objects on drywall. You drill a hole and hammer them in to attach screws into, and they distribute the force over a larger area so they don’t just pull out the drywall. You also need to consider the weight limits of drywall anchors. If you need to install something heavy on drywall you need to drill into the studs, the wooden support structure between the drywall. It’s not hard, and a lot of drywall anchors have a little visual guide on how to use them.

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      If you have a good stone wall you can simply hammer a nail into your wall and use that for hanging up sour painting. If you want/need a hook installed its still quite simple. First, get a hook, then you need to get these grey things in an appropriate size (I dont know the English word for them):

      The screw of the hook should be a bit bigger than the entrance hole. Then drill a hole into the wall (the grey things should fit perfectly into the hole), stick the grey thing into it and screw the hook into the grey thing. Screwing it into this grey thing expands it guaranteeing a proper grip to the wall.

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    For many years I used to keep my sawzall at a buddies house. Because my Wife decided-- not once-- but twice to cut down the couch we had at the time with the sawzall. The first time she wanted a “small sectional” in her words. The second time she just wanted 2 smaller couches. At the time we were dirt poor and we couldn’t afford to be replacing a couch just ‘because’.

    I eventually had to enforce a ‘no touch my tools’ rule and you don’t fix ANYTHING rule to save my sanity and life.

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    I feel this deeply. I am of the opinion that one who has never used a power tool should ever use a power tool for the first time unsupervised. I say this this as a man who volunteers helping high school students build robots. Accidents happen, and you don’t know what you don’t know.

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    If you need to be instructed in how to set up a tool you are unlikely to use said tool correctly or well. It is important to be aware of your actual skills when engaged in things like home or car repair.

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      I’ve used tools before that I knew how to use, but this particular model had a weird latch or something.
      It’s entirely plausible someone who is totally capable of drilling a hole to hang a picture might have never needed to use a drill with a chuck key.

      Maybe. Who knows.

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          I honestly wouldn’t. If you’ve only used a drill with a keyless chuck knowing you need to put a little knobbed gear on a stick into a hole and twist it to change bits is not what a lot of people would expect.

          You’re probably not getting a job in construction, but if you’re looking to put up a coat rack or something you’re fine.

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    Putting a bit into a drill is not something that can be adequately learned by talking, IMO.

    You need to see someone do it at least once before you can actually understand what you’re trying to do.