Meanwhile Florida has started to form toddler death Voltron by announcing they’re removing all vaccination requirements from schools.
I fully expect there to be a southern collation of iron lungs soon.
The worst thing about Toddler Death Voltron is: it is sentient and wants to no longer exist but they refuse to let it die because it hasn’t been born yet.
Good luck writing THAT into your next screenplay MAGA Universe Doctor Strange
New band name
Iron Lung Collator is taken.
I thought they meant Southern Coalition of Iron Lungs at first, but Toddler Death Voltron is better still.
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i love that the health guy looks like the most illnesses possible in one person
He’s just 16 preventable illnesses in a trenchcoat
Has anyone seen RFK Jr. and one of Nurgle’s Great Unclean Ones in the same room together? I don’t think so…
This is gold. I could see John Oliver or Jon Stewart using this.
Republican Health Minister and sixteen-preventable-illnesses-in-a-trenchcoat, promising he’s a real boy, RFK Jr. said this week…
Many people are saying there is something wrong with his mitochondria.
Well that can’t be good. That’s the power house of the cell!
The deep dent in the side of his temple is the icing on the cake.
Oooh, the second US civil war may still be on but not in the way we first thought.
When the US falls apart I strongly suspect the nation of Cascadia to form from these states
Great, provided there is some version of the Nuremberg Trials for Silicon Valley techbro nazis.
They are welcome to fix their hearts or die.
The problem… or complication with this…
Is that basically every part of WA and OR east of the Cascades will … counter-seceede.
Go look up the Greater Idaho project.
There is, and has been for a while now, an effort to … have the eastern counties of WA and OR leave their respective states and join Idaho.
From a legal/constitutional perspective… this is completely unprecedented, as best I can tell this has never before happened in US history, states redrawing their own borders, via counties which largely actually have democratically voted to do so via popular referendums.
Northern/Eastern CA + Southern OR will possibly form into something like the old attempts at the proposed state of ‘Jackson’.
There is an absolutely huge political polarization within all these states between urban and rural areas, roughly also by which side of the Cascades you are on.
I’ve hastily cropped that image from this source:
https://brilliantmaps.com/county-1992-v-2024/
So… yeah… if the governors of WA OR and CA formally seceeded and formed Cascadia? Came ‘too close’ to functionally doing that?
Well the rightwingers have an arguably legit legal counter move for that (or so they will argue, the whole point is different sides do not agree) and then basically the West Coast explodes into functionally a civil war of some kind, probably involving both partisan and ‘official’ state forces, and federal forces, roughly breaking apart along the Cascades, but it could easily be way more chaotic than that, depending on what say, forces at JBLM and Kitsap, and other major West Coast bases decide to do, as well as major city/regional/state police.
Let me personally tell you that Eastern WA/OR and Idaho still very, very much remember Ruby Ridge, the militia movement never died, it just went dormant till Trump, and uh, skipping up to present day, is now basically being formally recruited into ICE… ICE now has more funding than the United States Marine Corps.
Fucking yeehaw is what I very much fear would happen if either side makes significant moves toward anything resembling actual secession.
Oh no doubt. Any kind of secession would be resolved with a civil war, and the final borders might not be recognizable.
How many people do you think live in Oregon?
The majority of Oregonians live in Portland metro area.
A similar stat can be found regarding Seattle metro, and Washington has more blue cities than OR.
So, for starters, I am describing people by where they live, not how many live where.
Yes, of course, many more people live in major urban areas than other wise.
But it is still true that by area, there are many areas in WA and OR that are very highly Republican… presumably you have noticed the dramatic cultural difference between two of such of those areas.
Again, go actually look into the Greater Idaho project, a lot of these people are very serious about … seceeding their counties from Dem dominant WA and OR state governments, to join ID’s Rep dominant government.
This is a concerted political campaign that has been going on for over a decade and has gotten quite a lot of popular support in those counties via county level referendums.
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Further… the other point I am making is that the red areas are often quite extreme in their affinity for firearms.
It… does not take too many armed terrorists, militia cells, patriots, whatever you want to call them, to effectively terrorize or act as an insurgency in an area… especially if the official police are generally amenable to your movement… cops tend to be right wing authoritarians.
If you have ever lived in Portland or Seattle, I am sure you have observed the regular flooding in of non locals, from environs, whenever some kind major sport event, or public event occurs, or even just generally during work hours, good times to go shopping or clubbing or w/e.
Now just imagine that including some domestic terrorists.
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This almost certainly would not play out as simply as the red and blue areas just… becoming their own nation states and then raising their own formal militaries to do battle with each other, where the red areas would lose simply by having less people or less industrial base.
No, civil wars, balkanization, sectarian violence, insurgency, occupation… is way way way more complicated than that.
Maybe go read up on how that went/is going in Iraq and Afghanistan or Syria or Ukraine… for some recently case studies on how complicated this can get.
When?
hella stoked for the Pacific States of America.
The agreed-upon future name is Cascadia.
They should probably just join back up with Old Mexico and take Colorado too so they are left out cold
Throw in British Columbia and Alaska while you’re at it. Just take the entire west cost of North America.
And what should be the east coast, since if the international date line didn’t do that weird curve at the end of the Aleutians, Alaska would be the northernmost, westernmost, and easternmost state.
BC says no thanks. Even west coast US is still broken AF.
Alaska was full of libertarian “I came out here so I can live as I please” types, but a lot of them have shifted over to the crazy.
I think with the right-wing media being severed (with regulations around honesty in news and a more publicly funded system, not particularly with censorship), those types would go back to their “just leave me alone” ways.
Since you’re including the entire north american west coast, can Baja California get an invite too?
I love when people throw around the idea of Canadian provinces just being up for grabs, as if we want anything to do with what’s going on south of the border.
We are not opposed to that either.
Colorado is willing and able to join this western alliance!
Isn’t that Cascadia?
Cascadia lives!
Cascadia never dies!
Until the quake comes.
Usually, when people talk about Cascadia as a country, they include British Columbia.
God we have trouble enough with Toronto thinking it’s the centre of the world and ignoring BC. We’d have zero influence in Cascadia.
Technically, only a small section of California is part of the Cascadian region. But so is most of Idaho… And I think just about everybody would be happier if we made that trade.
geographically cascadia excludes socal and includes BC. it’s a different climate, ecosystem, etc
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Oh cool. Canadas future provinces helping each other out.
CASCADIA IS REALLLLLLLL!!!
Damn right it is. (my back country setup).
Teach me how to dougie
Arggg…
I think a lighter blue or cyan at the top would make the tree more visible and better match the sky
Say nothing more until you read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_flag
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cascadia_movement&wprov=rarw1
Okay, I’ve read that and I think it would look better with a lighter coloured sky
Mom: We have Lebanon at home…
Cascadia babeee!
Another good day to live on the West Coast of the US I see.
Damn am I happy to live over here.
Meanwhile in KY, our governor’s decisions (like to make conversion therapy illegal) get vetoed
Looks like the future country of Cascadia is finally starting to make some moves.
Be a shame if they didn’t call it COW. Vaccinated so it doesn’t get Mad.
Vaca vacunada :)
Maybe we should be our own country…
Please.
Cascadia Cascadia Cascadia! ! !
Why is it the westernmost states that are the most progressive?
“Progressive” being relative
Very high concentrations of educated citizens among the populace, a functional tax system that actually reinvests into its people compared to many other states in the union (especially below the Mason-Dixon line), and key cities center to high-tech development and critical US industries, military or otherwise (Seattle, LA, San Jose, San Francisco).
Additionally, because these states were some of the last to be incorporated into the United States, they largely were able to develop in less rigid ways in the 20th and 21st centuries compared to other states in the union (Cheaper land also allowed developing industries like computing to invest heavily in the region).
Though not a perfect summation, here’s a video from Vox about why Silicon Valley is located in California: https://youtu.be/6xvrKW2H_hA
I can try to explain any other questions about our politics and social norms as a Californian (though I’m less familiar with Oregon and Washington State, sadly).
You hit on the core reason. Less rigidity. The east and south are much more traditional. They are slow to change tradition. That also makes them slow to adapt. It’s a mindset. And the people who left those areas to go west did so with a more open mindset. And once it started that way, it was more or less established. If you like peer pressure from dead people, go east and south. If not, go west.
…the fuck are you on about? Don’t lump the Northeast in with the South. Massachusetts is easily the most liberal state in the country, and it’s not even really close and second place is Hawaii so still not West Coast.
If you want peer pressure from GOP funding Silicon Valley NIMBYs and weirdly conservative cannabis farmers go West. If you want a culture that prides itself on cutting you off in traffic while sipping a large extra extra around the Newport eternally stuck to your lower lip but at the same militantly defending your civil rights and social systems, come to New England. Or don’t, we barely have snow anymore. I’ll give that to the American West, better ski mountains.
(this is mostly a joke, everyone’s fucked anyway)
Ya’know, it is odd now that you mention it. Out here in oregon we have a lot more “gray” days then out east. Yet I don’t see as many people drinking coffee in the care compared to out east. You would think we would need it more.
Also odd, there is a clear difference in how traditional east coast companies are (and are allowed to be). Tech is my area, and it is very noticeable. Management hierarchies are much more rigid. Clothing/appearance expectations. Still a lot of golf played on company time. Diversity… I think the people are often liberal, but they don’t seem to take much of that to the office. Oh, and more religion in the east than the west. Y’all still have blue laws in many states.
Needs to get Hawaii on board
I think Hawaii is pretty much sorted when it comes boards… you probably want to get on their board.
Because they aren’t
