I wish American Voters had memories longer than 4 years. But they don’t.
They got pissed at Bush and the Republicans in 2006 for the war and in 2008 for crashing the economy.
And 2 years later in 2010 they voted in a red wave not seen since reconstruction.
Donald Trump tried to overthrow the government and 4 years later they gave him another chance. If Trump shot a crowd of people on 5th avenue the kids of the victims would vote for him 4 years later.
There were massive voter suppression campaigns in both those election cycles. And it doesn’t help that the neo Liberals highjacked the democratic party, marginalizing labor. People are not motivated to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Democracy will not save us. People that won’t vote unless they fall in love can fall out of love much more easily.
Do vote, it’s low effort and it can make a marginal difference. Just make your plans assuming you party will lose and if they win they will disappoint.
Your treating this as if the same people are voting different ways. It’s usually much more along the lines of voters staying home one election and voting in another.
Edit - autocorrect got naughty!
The Republican party deserves to die for allowing Donald Trump to rise to power. The Democrat party deserves to die for being useless to stop them. America needs a whole new fresh start with new parties
We were within 2% of stopping them. If you bastards had got on board, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Na. It’s the Democrats politicians fault. Send more money to Israel.
But bruh if u vote for third party, it’s a win for Donald Trump bruh.
It literally was.
It’s a nice catch 22 innit
or better yet, no parties at all and force some of our morons to actually learn their candidates beyond just party lines.
That will never happen.
See, they thought they could control him, like they did Reagan, and Bush Jr. Bush Sr. went along willingly.
But Trump is an overgrown 5 year old, and needs to feel he’s in charge. Like any typical narcissist.
Part of me wonder if this is worth saving. We need to start over.
All things end.
I just wish I wasn’t alive when it happened.
Where’s Thanos when we need him
A quick snap death would be preferable to what’s coming.
Or, better idea, no parties like the founders intended
Notice that’s their top concern. Not hurting Americans, not pissing off allies, not a recession, not handing off the title of World Superpower to China, but losing their jobs is their top concern.
not handing off the title of World Superpower to China
They put in the hours. Maybe they’ve fucking earned it. But if it makes you feel any better, most of the BRICS are rocketing upwards and positioned to match or eclipse the US by the end of the century. That’s just what happens when you implement modern industrial policies under a more egalitarian social system. Spreading the wealth engages more of the population in high value productive activities that benefit the national economy in the long run.
After you’ve built a broadly productive economic engine, the only thing holding you back is the size of your productive population. At that point, policies like universal health care and efficient mass transit really start paying dividends.
It’s not like they needed us to fumble in order to take the trophy, but all the same we didn’t need to just hand them the ball and walk away.
Don’t threaten me with a good time!!!
Also, it’s a wheel. The Cons ruin the economy, voters get mad and vote Democrat, Democrat fixes economy, voters don’t like the spending even though it’s improving everything so vote Con, the Cons ruin the economy, ect ect so on and so forth
That’s the same everywhere, not just the US.
The right destroys what the left/center build so the left/center rebuild it and then the right destroys it again.
This is so true it hurts to read it.
Yeah, I find it kinda funny that the “great again” era that is constantly referenced is actually this era of loosing the House and the Senate that is specifically being refrenced now. Mate, you can’t have it both ways; do you want the house and the Senate and the House or do you want it to be “great again?”
Sure is telling that his biggest worry is republicans losing power and not the sort of fucking depression that was the cause last time.
Wouldn’t that be nice.
Nicer would be the utter destruction of the Republican Party, followed by a split between the Corporate Democrats and Progressives into two parties.
We Lost the House and Senate for 60 Years.
I sure fucking hope so, you piece of shit.
Of course that’s all he cares about. Fuck him, I hope he loses everything he holds dear.
Hopefully the republicans can go the way of the whigs, the democratic party can become the conservative party they so desperately want to be, and we can create an actual party on the left.
I’ve wanted this for ages. And it’s represented so well in Republicans having only one platform: “Oppose Democrats. If it makes a Democrat angry, do it.”
Cleanse - and I mean CLEANSE - the opposition party. No one here can claim the Democrats never have good ideas. And yet, we can definitely do better than them. A better party means having better ideas - not just “Stop them libruls”. Bernie just toured the States with a message of exactly what that would look like.
What’s really happened is we’ve had our global dominance thrown away. We took the lead because of WW1 and WW2. It’s not because we’re great. It’s not because we manifested our destiny to become the leader of the world. It’s because factories in Europe were bombed to smithereens. That’s what allowed the U.S to achieve financial dominance. Now we’re in the fall.
What does he expect. Libertarianism is basically enacting the policies that led to the great depression. Trump is reacting in the way that made it worse, but you are the kerosene to his spark. Expect great depression when you get what you want.
I hope he is right. We could do a lot of good if we kept them out of office.
GOP should be banned from American politics. They have repeatedly violated the constitution at this point and are clearly compromised.
Completely agreed, but I’m pretty sure we’ll need new leadership for the Democratic party if we want them to make this happen
Look if you don’t want to vote for bears you should have chosen to be born someplace smarter
Their plan is to not have fair elections anymore.
Elections are over. The US is cooked.
The current regime will enact Russia-style “elections”.
Without violent revolution, the US is over.
Fingers crossed
Not happening. There won’t be another legit election.
I guess I’m glad he thinks that elections will still matter.
What will probably happen is a one or two term slump. What’s different between then and now is the internet and social media, which fills most people’s brains with a deluge of noise. In addition to the effects of misinformation daily telling people that the moon is the sun, most algorithms prioritize novelty, and nothing’s more novel than the most stupidly wrong-headed take. We constantly hear the opinions of people who should be laughed out of the room! We sit and chuckle, but there’s tens of millions of people who have poor media skills who it can actually influence.
We may have a perfect storm, so to speak. Economic stupidity will lose them dominance. However, hopefully, by the time they would gain again we’ll have a die off of boomers and other retired that come out to vote more now. We’ll have a refresh of retired voters. Gen X is coming up. From my small sample of us, we’re more Democrat leaning. Hopefully a wider sample size is the same.
Unfortunately GenX skewed way more right than all other generations including boomers in the last election
Well fuck. Maybe we can hold out until us Gen Xers are too old to vote or die off as well.
Reality doesn’t matter. People’s perception of reality does.
I get what you mean but accurate understanding of reality matters in terms of survival, there is a reason the most elderly groups actually shifted left in 2024 compared to 2020, Covid killed a lot of rightwing anti-mask elderly people.
Further, one’s ability and proclivity to vote can also be impacted by their financial situation. And people who ignore reality are perpetually at risk of losing their wealth due to poor planning, bad investments, or even outright scams. Seeing as we are about to hit a major economic disaster this is also going to effect elections in the future.
Maybe the real long term way to win this is to encourage everyone who is GOP and screwing us over, to instead just focus them on how bad their own vaccines are
Help them die off faster, saving most of the country’s sick…
It’s just a shame these people’s stupidity has to affect us. So, hard choices have to be made, not concessions with Nazis
