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He’s literally an alien from another planet. He was sent here because he lost his home planet. He’s always been an immigrant/refugee. Do these people have a single brain cell between all of them?
The story’s only been around 86 years. Relax.
No, they squished that brain cell when it caused them pain.
Yeah but he’s nice. And their president told them that immigrants are rapists and killer
Art is not supposed to be social commentary! I just wanna be sedated into a heroin like coma where I can never reflect on my actions or beliefs
Really shows how the US truly is a backwards country.
I’m a 6’3" man weighing 230lbs. I couldn’t hold back tears with that little kid (who obviously represented Palestine) holding the Superman flag in the face of tanks and an army.
Like, fuck me dude. I have been looking for some level of solidarity after 2 years of hearing a death count repeated every morning from Amy Goodman.
It’s just a film. It’s not going to change anything about our garbage world. But if anything it made me feel a little less alone when contrasting my time spent at protests with my time spent having to listen to idiot coworkers.
It’s chilling just how accurate that is.
If you showed that image to people in the 80s and 90s, I guess essentially pre-9/11 america, when I was young and taught america was called “the melting pot,” it would feel like a joke rather than a warning.
I’ve slowly distanced myself from political communities so now I see nonsense like this and wonder what’s going on out there.
The new Superman movie basically had the message of “Don’t be a shit person”; people are outraged.
lol, you could have said this at any point in the last 50 years and I would have believed you completely
Well you see, the movie’s message was “Don’t be a shit person, including to brown people”. You can probably tell what got conservatives so outraged.
Oh I can hear them now:
“Oh sure, and next you’ll be telling me to be nice to my dog and my kids, <slur>!”
James Gunn said Superman is an immigrant, which he of course is.
But I guess some people thought he was born in the USA.
Once upon a time the slogan used to be “truth, justice, and the American way”. Guess which part people wanted to keep, which parts they wanted to throw out the window.
It used to be Truth, Justice, and Peace. That is until the US went into marketing mode and recruited all superheroes into ‘the American way’ for WW2 propaganda.
In the comics, for a while, they tried to pretend he was by retconning his origin to have his ship give birth to him. Happened in the '80s so you can probably guess why they did it.
It was very weird. Luckily he’s back to his normal origin now.
He wasn’t even the first to call him that so publicly. This is an official WB documentary which got released with Superman Returns in 2006. I forgot when exactly but I’m pretty sure the narrator called him that within the first, maybe 20 minutes or so.
lol, like every Superman media ever? Superman is super, man. He’s always stood up for the little guy, the underdog, the (dare I say) immigrant.
Superman is literally a Christ figure. He’s basically a god, he loves humanity, and he constantly sacrifices himself to save us. Naturally, the religious right hates him.
Every superman media save for the Snyder films.
The bad guys have a military to gun down brown unmarked families to take over a neighboring country.
Zionists: and I took that personally.
It’s Superman you shit for brains assholes. Being good to people and fighting wrong doing while preserving life and making things better for everyone is like his whole thing.
You’d think they’d be more hung up on the fact that Superman is, himself, an illegal alien.
The extreme right (aka, most of the Conservative Party and voters) would prefer to claim him because he’s attractive, strong, and white-presenting. So they’ll happily ignore Supes’ own illegal status in lieu of smearing the image to force the character in line via societal and social pressure for creators and writers to conform.
As a non-American it just surprises me so much that Fox News can fool so many people, especially when “critical thinking” is touted as one of the things kids learn in school, as pictured in popular media like TV shows and movies. 🤷♂️ It’s just so obviously propaganda. You can tell by just the way they behave. You barely even have to listen to what they say. 😆 (But doing so surely makes it all the more crystal clear.)
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
What is that quote from? Sounds interesting.
If you’re not being facetious, then you should 100% read 1984 like… right now.
Followed up with Animal Farm, also by Orwell
Got’em! Not sure if these are good editions but we’ll see. They were like $2 each.
Animal Farm is the easier read out of the 2.
Enjoy.
I started 1984 last night. Very nice world building so far. Trying to pretend that the technology described so far is out of the ordinary and futuristic. 😅
Easier read, but kind of meaningless without knowing the context of the Soviet revolution since it’s just an allegory.
Worth reading, but I don’t consider it required in the same way I view 1984.
Thanks for the tip!
If you do read Animal Farm, you’re gonna want to read the wiki or something first, since the entire story is an allegory for the Soviet revolution in Russia using talking farm animals. So if you’re not familiar with that history, you’re probably going to be confused.
It’s a good book (and short) when you understand the context, but I wouldn’t recommend it to everyone the same way that I recommend 1984.
The former is looking backwards at historical events, while the latter looks forward, and describes (with disturbing accuracy) a potential authoritarian future.
Yeah I got the history and allegory part, thank you! 🙂👍
Not at all! I’ll check it out, thanks! Been eyeing it for a long time but I’m not really a book person. But maybe it could be an exception. 😁
It’s a very important book, and every adult should be required to read it.
I’m approaching 10% finished, including the foreword about Orwell’s life etc. I keep imagining what the film(s) will do to picture all of it in their own unique way. Will be fun to watch those later with the Mrs. 😊
Also from 1984:
“There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ”
When I was in school we read Animal Farm, but instead of 1984 they had us read Brave New World. It seemed like a more accurate commentary at the time. Just everyone blissfully unaware and high on “soma” and trivial entertainment. Bread and circuses as it were. Crazy to see what a sudden turn to 1984 we’ve taken in just a few months.
We ended up with the worst bits of both.
Good one. Yeesh. 🥶
That last sentence in particular…that’s indeed what it feels like the foreseeable future is in the US.
1984 / Orwell
Where did you go to school? I went to school in Texas and critical thinking was not taught. I routinely got in trouble just for asking questions.
I went to school in Sweden, where I live. “Critical thinking” was not taught as a subject per se, but I get the feeling the curriculum somehow managed to put in our heads regardless. Or maybe it’s only my own circle of peers, I suppose I don’t know for sure.
Yeah, conservatives found out long ago that the more education a person gets, the less likely they are to support conservative politicians. So they have literally sabotaged their own future by gutting education, and we’re now reaping the rewards.
Is it really fooling anyone if the people watching Fox News already follow that hateful ideology before they even turn on the TV. It’s just confirmation bias and Fox News is happy to provide it. They watch it to feel righteous and not to learn anything.
Where do they find these ideologies before they turn on the TV? Curious to know as an outsider.
Either way, if I believed something and my fellow peers within this belief spoke like this, I’d fucking start questioning my beliefs. 🤨
Depends. For lots of my Southern family, oldschool racist and Confederate roots are deep, and tied to church culture. And I’ve seen examples outside of that where things are ‘learned,’ like a macho, sexist, homophobe jerk kinda ex-friend who’s Dad was the same.
Also, talk radio was like this long before Fox got so extreme. Rush Limbaugh was huge, people like him were a staple across the rural US and can still be heard if you tune in.
In the richer eschelons (like in my private school), libertarian-mindedness is more common, and extreme social conservatism bleeds in from there, as counterintuitive as that seems.
In other words, the Fox environment has been cooking for decades (if not a centuries), and I agree: they’re catering to (and stoking) the market that’s already there.
Interesting, thanks for sharing your insights!
The monkey scene really triggered them didn’t it?
That scene had our whole theater cracking up when I saw it on premiere day. So damn on point.
They don’t want to be woke. Ergo, they wish to remain sleepy sheep.
If they are going to bitch that much might as well make Superman gay
They already had meltdowns because his son has a boyfriend, and being fake fans they confused him for his son.
Lets Keep going,
Hopefully they’ll get an aneurism
Isn’t that what the pink kryptonite does?
Make a movie about his son, who’s canonically bi
I thought his only “son” was his clone.
And if it’s a clone, that means Superman is also bi.
And if it’s a clone, that means Superman is also bi
…because of comic book logic on cloning? Or is there some genetic factor underlying a person’s sexuality? I’m guessing the former, but if the latter is true, it’s the first I’ve heard of it, so I’m curious!
If it’s not genetic, is that not implying it’s a “choice”?
Let me start with a clear statement - homosexuality is clearly NOT a choice! I can see how you got that from what I said though, so I apologize for phrasing my comment poorly!
I always figured it was biologically driven without much in the way of genetic components. It seems like homosexuality would be pretty tricky to pass on if it was just linked to a few genes, yet from people’s experiences and examples in nature it’s pretty clearly biological. I’m curious about the mechanism in general, and from your phrasing, thought you might know something I hadn’t picked up yet.
There was this bs controversy about someone in a comic book not being straight:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/entertainment/superman-comes-out-bisexual-jon-kent-cec
But who will be his bottom?
Me?
Great catch
Looks like a headline from a fictional news segment in The Boys
Later she expressed that the new superman movie was dumber than her stupid tiktok posting cunt daughter.
I wish it actually had been super woke since it’s getting so much flak for literally just being Superman.
Fantastic movie though.
Really was a great movie. Telling who thought it was political, and who hated it.
Ohh is that where the ghoul kellyann ended up? She’s aged poorly.
