Not a Christian, but I used to be one, and I’ve never heard of anyone fitting the criteria for the antichrist better than Donald Trump
There it is. If you hadn’t posted it, I would have.
Well that’s unsettling
Yep. Not even Christian and that’s some shit…
It just keeps going and going. The dude is so old and decrepit now I feel like he is either going to die soon and we’ll breathe a sigh of relief or he’s going to rip his skin off and a red devil will pop out. Its gotta happen soon, right?
There is no god and no antichrist. Humanity has seen worse. They’ve all been human.
Given they stated they’re a former Christian not sure your remark will be a revelation to them. More pointing out the hypocrisy of the same crowd trying to use religion as the reason in every conversation (e.g. sexuality and gender) constantly forget the basics and TL:DR rules of Christianity. Like it isn’t even that far down the list, it’s rule two.
There may have been worse, though many of them were likely not in charge of the self proclaimed “leader of the free world”, not many have exhibited overtly anti-Christ like qualities. I get what you’re saying but it comes off as almost dismissive of gestures broadly at geopolitical landscape.
Still just human beings. No invisible sky goblins required.
Yup yup yup, same same same.
Its actually remarkable how many of the categories and descriptions and even events he fits into.
Lol, not even really gold, like the rest of his crap:
the president fails to mention the fact that the figure is merely wrapped in gold leaf.
The shiny livery was added to the bronze statue by the sculptor, who told the Daily Beast that it was the easiest mark-up of his life. “They loved the idea, of course. It’s like pitching ice water to a man dying of thirst. It was not a hard sell,” Alan Cottrill said.
Give it a few months and the gold leaf is flaking off, and they start fixing it with spray paint. It’s all so poetic.
Holy shit, your comment made me realize something. Is Trump spraying himself orange because he thinks it makes him look golden?
Yes
The artist literally upsold them for no other reason than money, and then bragged about gouging them over making it shiny. There was also something about him holding the statue until they paid in full, before delivering it. He knows what’s up with these losers.
Such a waste. Bronze looks so much better than that gold, especially when it rusts.
I wonder how this will patina with piss. I can’t be the only one that really wants to piss on it. I’m sure that will become a thing.
I hope it becomes a celebrated yearly event.
To be fair, let’s do some math: A tall human man has a volume of about 70 liters. Some searching online tells me that we would need 43480 ouncs to fill that volume with real 100% 24k gold and thus make a life-sized statue. At current market rate, such a statue would cost 173 Million € or 204 Million $
It would have been gold plated, not made entirely out of gold. Yet they didn’t even bother with that.
When the drawing looks more like real gold than the photograph…
Then it was a golden calf. Now it’s a golden pig
The USA is probably the nation furthest from christian values at this moment. Well, aside from the genocide and pedophilia. They got that shit on LOCK.
It’s the place where they complain to the pastor he should stop spouting woke bs and just read from the bible.
Israel because Irony
How can these supposedly knowledgeable Christian “leaders” do this without thinking about Moses destroying the Golden Calf, or even the 10 Commandments’ warnings against having no Gods before me, and no graven images, etc.?
I suppose if you’re okay with all the other commandments being broken, these ones aren’t really so bad. It’s not like Killing or Stealing, and they do that shit every day.
And as long as we’re on the subject, the 10 Commandments say NOTHING about pedophilia, so GAME ON!
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It is also a characteristic of the Anti-Christ being on earth I believe
Jesus fucking christ
I think this was posted before the pastor at the dedication respond to this this. He posted several paragraphs explaining why this isn’t false idolatry, and it kind of came down to ‘trust me bro’
Trust me bro, this flesh alchemy gig pays out after four or five years. Sure, at first, every chick runs away from you when you approach them offering the giblets of a jammed duckling, but once you smoke a few pounds of Benadryl, you start pulling it off, in the same way just whipping it out will land you a date 1/10 times, assuming you are fast or can afford the out-of-court settlements for the 3/10 times they threaten to call the cops. But this gets you the really freaky bitches that would also be the ideal mother of your child who will teach them the occult and have them transcend physicality entirely by middle school. I highly recommend, and I don’t even miss my one toe. It’s like childhood all over again, but with less bleeding on Christmas, at least in my case.
Bruh that toe was the key factor in the enrichment of your life goals. Think of it as an investment. And listen, don’t even worry about the 3/10, you whip out a four toe’d foot, and the jury will be eating out of the palm of your hand. Trust.
Listen, I got plenty of toes. I have my sister’s feet, afterall. They’re in a glass jar on my desk.
Yo, I’m a foot guy, let’s see those pics
I got balls in my ass right now (I’m a juggler), so lemme fix that problem first, though, personally, I wouldn’t call it a problem.
I think this is more fitting.
2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 NRSVUE [3] Let no one deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one destined for destruction. [4] He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God. [5] Do you not remember that I told you these things when I was still with you? [6] And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed when his time comes. [7] For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who now restrains it is removed. [8] And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth, annihilating him by the manifestation of his coming. [9] The coming of the lawless one is apparent in the working of Satan, who uses all power, signs, lying wonders, [10] and every kind of wicked deception for those who are perishing because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. [11] For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false, [12] so that all who have not believed the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.
So I always thought the whole End Times eschatology was just bullshit to scare people and convince them that their religion had it all figured out. But now I’ve come to realize the metaphorical power of the stories themselves.
History repeats itself. The bible stories are based on things that had happened before, so with stories they tried to warn people not to fall for it again or the bad times would come back, and now people are falling for it again.
Yeah I never thought end times myths were based on prior events though.
Lots of scholars believe that the “beast” (what Revelation calls the figure we’ve dubbed “the Antichrist” in current popular culture) is an allegorical representation of Nero.
What makes Revelation so hard for many Christians to understand is that they are largely unaware that Revelation is part of a literary genre called “apocalypse” and uses the conventions and tropes of that genre. This is because Revelation is the only full example of apocalyptic literature in the Bible (Daniel, Ezekiel, and some of the other prophetic books have sections that are apocalyptic, but not the entirety of those writings). But there are others (Shepherd of Hermas is one that nearly made it into the New Testament; the book of Enoch is one that is contained in the Old Testament of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, but not in any other church’s Bibles). So the weird language actually begins to make sense when you read it alongside other examples of the genre. It’s a kind of poetry that also serves as a kind of “code” to obscure what is really being written about (so that authorities get confused if they were to intercept these writings).
Daniel speaks of another beast figure likely based on Antiochus Epiphanes IV, a Greek ruler who desecrated the Jewish Temple (the story behind Hanukkah is about this). Revelation used that language to talk about Nero because the early Christians, rooted in the Biblical language of the Old Testament, saw Nero cast in a similar vein as Antiochus. And so “the AntiChrist” becomes a kind of symbolic figure that many throughout history can fit into. Trump is just the latest. He might be the “final” one. But what books like Revelation are trying to do is to help Christians avoid the kind of crap people like Trump represent. Unfortunately, antiChrist figures are good at what they do and, in this case, primed many Christians to read the Bible a certain way that precludes their ability to recognize THIS antichrist in their midst.
That’s really interesting, thanks for the context. So given this, why do fundamentalist Christians seem bent on bringing about the apocalypse? If it’s a cautionary tale, why are they taking it literally and trying to fan the flames of war in Israel? I’m referring specifically to Evangelical Zionists in the US who support Israel for prophetic reasons.
It’s because they read these things from the perspective of a theology known as “dispensationalism” that was developed by a guy named Darby in the late 1800s and made super popular by the Scofeld Reference Bible. It takes all of the various apocalyptic writings that are found in the Old and New Testaments, treats them at face value, and attempts to create a coherent narrative out of them. And what they believe is that the antichrist and Armageddon are all precursors to a time when Jesus will come and rescue the true believers from Earth before it is destroyed. So, at best, Israel is a footnote to the story, a means to a particular end.
Dispensationalism comes in a variety of flavors. But they all basically hold to an idea called “the Rapture” where Christians are instantaneously whisked away into heaven, leaving the world to destroy itself. This completely misses the entire point of Revelation (which is that heaven comes to earth) as well as hilariously misconstruing a teaching of Jesus (where He uses the example of Noah and the flood to talk about the end-of-days; the Rapture folks interpret this as Jesus taking the “good guys” away and the wicked are “left behind.” However, Jesus explicitly says that it is the righteous who are left behind, while the wicked are swept away–as with what happened with Noah and the flood). The Rapture is largely the product of the 20th Century. No Christian believed in such a thing until then.
False prophets (or self serving scam artist demagogues) have always existed. So have gullible and greedy people that follow those demagogues. War, famine, disease and death were nothing new either. It’s all just normal human behaviour, sadly enough.
One thing also leads to another: If a self serving demagogue gets too many followers, then it’s going to lead to lawlessness and war, which are usually accompanied by famine and plagues, which result in lots of excess deaths. That situation is going to cause societal upheaval and maybe even a societal collapse, which the incumbent powers didn’t want, so they created cautionary tales to hopefully teach the people how to recognize demagogues, to prevent those from getting too many followers in the first place.
The lack of awareness and intelligence never ceases to cofound me. Following the anti-christ, the person they want to start armageddon, is a one-way ticket to hell for these clowns. And they’re all for it. Yet they think they’re the good guys?
No it’s a one way ticket to heaven. They get to go to heaven when everything ends. Thats why they want things to end.
Ending is rewarded to them. Its a pretty classic example of the problem with positive enforcement. If misapplied it causes more problems
That’s not how it works, unless the “/s” fell out of your pocket on the way to posting that.
Thessalonians:
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Point being, they get an antichrist, believe in said person, and are sent to eternal torment for a thousand years.
They might think they’re going to heaven, but in their magical world they quite clearly will not. They’ll just accelerate the destruction of the planet and take us down with them.
Right but that’s not what American Christians are told, I think they mean. These supporters think that they are saved because they are Christian and therefore if they die it is immediate heaven. Even though I would think committing genocide or Armageddon would guaruntee hell but what do I know.
“God?! God’s a radical left lunatic, so soft on crime, so soft. What did God do to stop Iran getting nukes? Nothing! Not like me.”
They have become the satire…
Well, not really the oldest, that would be “hey guys, see that tree? don’t eat its fruit. anything else you can eat, just not THAT one. Kay?”
but it’s definitely up there in being one of the most well known rules.
theyve never been christians, but they do love to troll them
