• da_cow (she/her)@feddit.org
    170·
    10 天前

    Working outside can be fun. At least AS long AS you dont need that good of an internet connection, have a comfy place to sit in and are at a somewhat dark spot, so you can still see on your screen.

    If and only if these three things are all given, than it can be quite nice to work outside.

    • Captain_Faraday@programming.devEnglish
      18·
      10 天前

      Couldn’t agree more. Some of my best work and learning recently has been me on my back porch under shade with a box fan. While I have solid WiFi and power there, I also pack a portable monitor and can work without internet on much of what I do.

    • sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works
      13·
      10 天前

      Also, if you take any meetings, it needs to be quiet enough to communicate but also not disruptive to others if you’re taking loudly.

    • abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
      8·
      10 天前

      There are some very decent outside-internet solutions. I have one of those solutions at home and it’s a joy to work outside.

      • definitemaybe@lemmy.ca
        5·
        10 天前

        WiFi mesh networks can have impressive range outdoors, without walls and reflections blocking the wifis. And they can be powered by PoE (Power over Ethernet) so you only need to run 1 cable to hook it up.

        But for most of my work, a cellphone hotspot is suitable, so long as it’s not so remote that I don’t get at least a strong 4G signal. Video conferencing isn’t very data intensive with compression and, if I’m not running the meeting, slight spottiness is fine.

      • sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        10 天前

        Working outside your home is nice. But I think a lot of these comments are talking about working outside in public is a whole other problem.

    • nbailey@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      10 天前

      A coworker of mine specifically built a little gazebo on their deck to be a summer-office. They wired a little wifi repeater in the roof, retractable shades and curtains, a ceiling fan, and got a desk that specifically fits a comfy deck chair. Obviously all of this can be moved out of the way for normal back yard stuff, but it’s become the absolute envy of all my remote colleagues.

    • Rooster326@programming.dev
      2·
      10 天前

      So it’s good if you are close to your router, have a comfortable chair, and have so much shade you’re basically indoors.

      So if I just open a window in my office…

      • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
        3·
        10 天前

        I get what you’re saying and acknowledge that that’s the best environment for some people, but for me there’s a different feel in being in your office and being on the back porch or out in the garage with the door open.

        The fresh air, mild distractions on an easy day, and more natural light make me feel good. I think the beach would be a fucking nightmare for me. Same for things like a coffee shop. But if I’m in at least a semi private space and it’s not a balls to the wall day, I’ll take not being chained to the desk every time it’s practical.

    • Flames5123@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      9 天前

      My mobile tethering is so good that I’ll usually do it even if I have access to WiFi. It’s just faster and more reliable. I could probably get insane speeds on the beach too.

    • Leon@pawb.social
      1·
      10 天前

      No, because then I want to do stuff that is not sitting with my laptop outside. If the weather is nice, I’d much rather play with my dog, climb a tree, or roll around in mud. Why’d I want to sit and do PR reviews?

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      10 天前

      The dark spot is only an issue if you’re using a laptop or something. Pen and a pad of paper is fine outside. Loose stacks of paper is obviously not ideal.

      Unfortunately, most of us need to work using screens these days. I have hope for the future with these smart AR glasses. With the screen on the glasses, it shouldn’t be a problem to use them in bright light. And, feeling the sun on your skin is one of the best parts about being outside when the weather is good.

  • kazerniel@lemmy.worldEnglish
    68·
    10 天前

    Being on your laptop outside is a miserable experience

    ftfy

    As a lifelong desktop PC user, laptops just feel claustrophobic 😅 Especially sucks without a mouse, fuck the trackpad.

    • JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org
      15·
      10 天前

      Yeah, i have no idea how all those people are doing their work. I need a big monitor or two, a good keyboard and a nice mouse!

      • PoopingCough@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        10 天前

        My partner is a psycho who does like 90% of her graphic design work on a 13" macbook air using only trackpad

          • PoopingCough@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            10 天前

            Yeah, i mean she uses a tablet when doing the actual creating part, but mostly the job these days is moving assets around to fit the necessary sizes for different social media. I still don’t understand how someone can stand to do that using a trackpad, but she’s good at what she does so 🤷‍♂️

        • kazerniel@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          10 天前

          As a graphic designer, I’d quit being a graphic designer if laptop+trackpad was my only option D:

          • Damage@feddit.it
            3·
            10 天前

            My partner used to do design on her laptop on the sofa with a graphic tablet. Inconceivable for me .

        • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
          3·
          10 天前

          Dude I know these people. My brain explodes at how inefficient they must be.

          Sometimes I forget not everyone is computer literate and so fast that their work laptop can’t keep up with them

      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        10 天前

        i have no idea how all those people are doing their work.

        like people in cafes “working”.

        and what screen is visible on a sunny day outside.

        • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
          3·
          10 天前

          I was thinking that too, just looking at the image is giving me a headache imagining squinting at your screen notched up to full blast and still dim, through your sunglasses.

          What in the stock image hell is this. Lmao

    • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      10 天前

      Bro, people today prefer trackpad. Its fucking mindblowing. Ive met several IRL people that love trackpads and don’t own a mouse.

      I almost guarantee I’m 10x faster at anything on a PC than them

      • Damage@feddit.it
        5·
        10 天前

        I have fond memories of my Macbook Pro’s touchpad. That was over a decade ago, I still haven’t found a comparable experience.

      • maplesaga@lemmy.world
        3·
        10 天前

        You’re assuming these people are doing something useful, they could be dealing with Microslop licensing as their full time job. Which is definitely a full time job, its just not useful work in the broader sense.

      • iglou@programming.dev
        3·
        10 天前

        I prefer a trackpad while I work, and the reason is simple: Much less movement to switch from trackpad to keyboard than from mouse to keyboard. And much easier to land on the key you want without looking.

        And I very much doubt you’d be faster than me with a mouse!

          • iglou@programming.dev
            3·
            9 天前

            A gamer does not need to switch from the mouse to the keyboard repeatedly. Plus, a gamer cares about precision, which obviously a trackpad lacks.

            “Faster” standalone means nothing. Can you move the pointer faster with a mouse? Of course. But I don’t see most people flicking on their workstation.

            In the context of this thread, “faster” refers to completing your tasks faster. And for that a trackpad beats a mouse if your job requires you to type a lot.

          • kamen@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            9 天前

            The point of trackpads (and even more so of trackpoints) is that they’re faster to get to from typing position - you move your hand back a bit (or even just the index finger) instead of moving across the whole keyboard. That’s not something that would go high on the checklist when gaming - it’s usually one hand planted on WASD, the other on the mouse and hardly any going back and forth.

      • WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world
        2·
        10 天前

        I don’t own a mouse. I like the trackpad because I’m left handed and a mouse always felt weird to me left handed because schools in the 90s forced me to use it right handed.

      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
        2·
        9 天前

        I’ve stopped caring about being fast. In fact I’m certain my current setup is slower, more comfortable, and funner than any I’ve enjoyed before.

        If you feel good and you’re enjoying your setup then that’s what matters.

        • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          9 天前

          Yes totally . i can see trackpad bring good if you have some wrist issues. I do have wrist issues but a trackpad makes it worse for me

          • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
            1·
            9 天前

            Same. I go between keyboard, trackball, trackpad, touch screen, and mouse. Whichever is lowest resistance.

    • Damage@feddit.it
      9·
      10 天前

      I work on industrial production lines. I’ve gotten used enough to laptops that I don’t mind too much.

      Work from home on my 34" curved screen + 27" flat is amazing tho.

      • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
        3·
        10 天前

        I use a tiling window manager and copious number of workspaces. It helps with the feeling of claustrophobia if anything can be easily full-screened and swapped around easily.

        A 64" monitor with floating windows now feels clunky to me compared to a 15" screen with tiling set up like I like it

      • kazerniel@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 天前

        Curved screens look appealing (I imagine also good for gaming), but I don’t think I’d want to try them for work as a graphic designer. I need straight lines to look straight :)

    • Sculptus Poe@lemmy.world
      4·
      10 天前

      Well, these guys aren’t working, as far as I’m concerned, if they can do it without bringing out a mouse and real keyboard and probably a second monitor. (My laptop bag is pretty heavy.) They can at best be checking emails.

      • suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world
        4·
        10 天前

        Agreed.

        If you can do your work on a 13" laptop with no mouse or external monitor without your productivity dropping off a cliff, you were never productive to begin with.

        • Axolotl@feddit.it
          2·
          10 天前

          I disagree on the external monitor, not everyone need one or they are just used to using it, also how the OS is scaled matter too

          • kazerniel@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            10 天前

            Yeah, tbh I’m fine working as a graphic designer on my single 24-inch screen, not sure what I’d put on another one.

            Though I imagine it might be useful when gaming to put a guide or spreadsheet on a smaller, vertical screen.

    • Cekan14@lemmy.org
      4·
      10 天前

      For real, not having the mouse slows you down big time, even though I’m more or less skilled at keyboard shortcuts

    • iglou@programming.dev
      2·
      10 天前

      I can’t work on a big screen. I’m thriving on my laptop with my 3x3 virtual desktop grid, though.

    • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
      1·
      10 天前

      I have a monstrous satellite l300 i use for light spec work and arduino programming. 17" screen. It does not feel claustrophobic in the slightest, unlike my latest gen dell work machine with a screen smaller than my first fucking 486 i need glasses to even see. where did we go so wrong.

    • Tortellinius@lemmy.world
      1·
      9 天前

      I do most things on my laptop mouseless, or that is, trackpadless. It’s the best feeling ever. I seriously recommend it to anyone.

  • Soup@lemmy.world
    59·
    10 天前

    If I’m ever envious of someone doing work in places where they should be relaxing, please kill me.

    • arendjr@programming.dev
      1·
      9 天前

      You must be someone who hates working from home, because home is the place where we should all feel relaxed, right? What about working in the garden? The garden is certainly a relaxation spot, but god forbid you get some rays of sunshine while you work.

      I understand the desire to pity people who work at the beach. But then again, I pity anyone who ended up living near Silicon Valley. Think of all the money though!

      • Soup@lemmy.world
        5·
        9 天前

        That’s one extreme way to take the comment, I guess. I worked from home for a while and I think these return to office orders are stupid as hell, largely because going to the office needs unpaid commuting time, annoyances related to needing to bring a lunch, and it takes away your ability to do small chores and stuff during the work day that might be often impossible during the evening for one reason or another.

        Look, if you want to work at the beach or whatever then go for it, but the idea that California is the “envy of nations” because people can do labour at a beach is insanity.

  • TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip
    33·
    10 天前

    Even just being in public. I tried it for one day at Panera while I was writing a professional review. People kept coming up to talk to me, I couldn’t tune the noise out, and I was uncomfortable in their wood chairs.

    I’m convinced those suits in Starbucks are just trawling for chicks.

    • Ech@lemmy.ca
      34·
      10 天前

      People kept coming up to talk to me [at Panera]

      This is just…unimaginable to me. Who goes up to strangers at a chain restaurant? Especially one who is clearly busy? Unless you mean employees, which would be a bit more understandable, though still weird.

    • definitemaybe@lemmy.ca
      15·
      10 天前

      Over-ear headphones help with this. Then you can just ignore them and pretend you can’t hear.

      (My neurospicy is showing…)

    • blady_blah@lemmy.world
      4·
      10 天前

      I go traveling with the sales guys sometimes, and we had Starbucks in between meetings so that we can sit down and do email for an hour and then go to the next meeting. I wouldn’t want to sit there all day.

      I work from home and I never get to the point where I want to go out in public and do work. I do get to the point where I want to go on public, but I take a walk and get some sun and I don’t bring my laptop.

  • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
    31·
    10 天前

    Imagine having the freedom to work from the beach and still putting on a button down shirt.

  • Bieren@lemmy.today
    23·
    9 天前

    I work outside all the time. It’s great. Use my laptop on the screened in porch. In the shade. Ceiling fan on. Maybe in the hammock. Doing whatever I want on the laptop while jiggler keeps my work laptop active in another room.

    • Waryle@jlai.lu
      3·
      9 天前

      For those who can’t install much on their work laptop: just open notepad and put a weight on the space bar

      Bonus point: you can see how long you’ve been away by looking at the character count, and try to beat high scores on slow days

    • zerofk@lemmy.zip
      3·
      9 天前

      I recently discovered this thing called books that also works great outside. And it’s a lot more fun than laptop work!

      • altphoto@lemmy.today
        1·
        9 天前

        But isn’t that expensive since each page is pay per? Pay per page! That’s gonna rack up some dough. Although I did go to goodwill today and they had some really inexpensive Wikipedia/website-like things on their shelves. I picked one up from the cooking isle and it had lots of pictures and text on pay per. But it was cheap like 5 bucks.

    • PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
      7·
      10 天前

      Location, weather and time is key when eating outside. Have eaten many a meal outside without issue and I prefer it to inside when the three align.

    • definitemaybe@lemmy.ca
      4·
      10 天前

      Wasps. Fuck wasps.

      If not for wasps, my family would eat outside most of the summer. As it is, it’s either wasps writing 3 minutes of bringing food outside, or a wind strong enough to blow the wasps and our food away.

  • TheseusNow@lemmy.zip
    15·
    10 天前

    This is like the idea of having sex on the beach. Who really wants that. You didn’t think it through if you want that. Do you really want to invite sand and salmonella to the mix?

  • Rose@slrpnk.net
    14·
    10 天前

    I have a fucking awesome gaming laptop. It has like 2 hours of battery life tops. (the very highly operative word being “tops”) Just today I was anxious about pulling it out of my backpack due to the fact it’s being spingtime and literally all of the winter walkway gravel is in the wind. I’m a Nikon fangirl and I very much hesitated to uncap my lens.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    10 天前

    Nah mate screen is awesome outside except most people are stuck on macbooks that are simply unusable due to extreme screen glare.

  • pyre@lemmy.world
    13·
    9 天前

    laptop outside is fine but on the beach? why don’t you pour the sand in manually at home?