In a stunning admission, Leavitt told Bartiromo that mandatory conscription – not seen since the Vietnam War – had not been ruled out by her boss.
to those thinking “if they did this no one would vote for them again, it would be political suicide”
My sweet summer child, they would do this is if they knew that there weren’t going to be anymore elections. if they’re 100% sure they can pull that off then they will start mandatory conscription.
I’m only thinking “Oh great, a convenient way for them to round up all the “undesirables” (liberals, not-whites,critics,etc), execute them if they resist, and send them off to a war unprepared and unequiped so they can be purged in a far less messy way than concentration camps”
Pretty sure that’s exactly what Russia did in Ukraine.
yep. Crazy how Trump with Iran is mirroring Putin with Ukraine, huh?
My entire thought process as well.
I bet if they can they will only be conscripting Democrat voters, black people, Hispanics, etc.
Republican voters would not be able to not shoot themselves.
they would do this is if they knew that there weren’t going to be anymore elections
Ballot box or bullet box.
You’d get street protests from sea to shining sea that would make BLM and Occupy look like the Macy’s Day Parade.
The US is enormous, authority is devolved, and a lot of what keeps the wheels moving is voluntary compliance. Elections help people to believe that government is popular and their own stupid opinions are just in the tiny minority.
When you try to force these systems of power through brute strength, you break them. It’s a recipe for balkinization and civil war. Same as what happened in the run up to the Civil War, when slavers and abolishionists came to a head.
You had low key insurrection all through the North long before Buchanan left office. Southern states effectively denying Lincoln a ballot line only fueled his popularity in response.
They’ve literally executed US citizens in street inbroad daylight on camera and people are still just going to work like this is normal.
All talk.
It’s talk until it isn’t.
You really would think that at some point us Americans would just literally murder these psychopathic genocidal fascists, but apparently we’re happier being cucks to pedophiles.
well to be blunt you’ve had systems built against you for literal decades to prevent you from doing as much. Healthcare tied to employment, at will employment states, 40+ hour work weeks, the least amount of paid time off or time off in general in the modern free world, and these are just a few examples. You also have law enforcement the nation over that has been “trained” and equipped to act as mini-militaries. And THEN you have several government agencies that have also been trained and equipped as such and that’s even before considering the ACTUAL US Military.
These are just some examples of systems put into place to ensure that you, your average American, stays in line and doesn’t rebel-rouse.
Cool, I don’t care.
You’re just explaining why we are cucks to pedophiles, doesn’t change that every permaonline political slacktivist in the US is still a cuck to the pedophile class.
Either do something actually useful, or remain a cuck as the horrors only get worse.
Setting up a meat grinder can also be a great way to target your political opposition. A corrupt draft board can draft members of their political opposition. And once in uniform, they can be given the suicide assignments.
I’ve been worrying about this. They’ll use conscription to draft anyone anti-maga to fight and use other nations like Iran to do the fighting. If they resist they’ll be imprisoned.
Russia does the same.
DOGE was part of the data gathering scheme for things like this.
Agreed. There was a reason for that shit, and not a ‘finding government waste’ reason.
I wonder how much this actually happens though. Does no one ask, “wait…should we really be giving our political opposition access to and training with heavy weaponry?”
Your mistake is thinking they’d even hand you a sharp stick in this scenario.
True. In Russia they may give you the empty weapon, prod you to the APC, lock it then drop the mags inside from the top.
They’ve definitely thought all about this, sadly.
It’s funny because they could build armies of liberals and the conservatives and far left would be okay with it.
Centrists like you are just alt-righters
What do you get out of saying stupid shit like that that even you know is stupid?
… They’re not wrong, you are misunderstanding what they are saying.
Conservative MAGAs hate liberals, they actively want them to die.
Leftists also hate liberals, and either also actively want them to die, or don’t care if they die.
Thus… if a bunch of liberals get drafted and die in a war… the conservatives will be thinking “good, force them to do our bidding”, and the leftists will be thinking “if these clowns aren’t going to revolt against their ‘sacred institutions’ at this point, they never will, fuck em.”
They are agreeing with the comment they’re replying to, that the internal political management strat that Putin uses in Russia would also work in the US.
Also, for anyone confused: A US liberal is a centrist.
Ahh… a closet right winger trying to push the “both sides are the same” bullshit, in defiance of facts, evidence, and reason.
If there is conscription, they’re going to use their social media data from meta and twitter, and any way they can, to select those who are most vocal about being against Trump, so that they die first, maga are happy because they dont go to war, and see trump sticking it to the libs. Meanwhile there are fewer libs to vote against him and fight back.
In fact, they’ll probably start by sending off those in swing districts, and may even let them vote abroad woth mail-in votes they intentionally dont deliver and cant be sued for doing so.
Wait would that just be training and arming a potential rebellion? That makes no sense.
The russians do this. They wont be training you. They will wait with guns, give you a gun, and send you to kill or be killed, and if you dont, they shoot you. If you retreat, they shoot you. If you turn around and shoot back, they shoot you.
They aren’t going to send you there to be effective. You will be meant to die. But this firing squad will reveal information about the enemy when it kills you.
I’m not entirely sure about that. They fill their army with anti trump folk and there’s gonna be a lot of fragging
This implies that the administration is capable of seeing much past their nose
The Russian army does this. They sent Ukrainians to fight against ukrainians.
Yeah and they’re losing against tiny little Ukraine. Russia used to be a superpower!
Ya, and unless Americans do something about it, thats what well say about america, too.
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Rounding up all the Americans that trash talk them will cause revolution. Its also logistical nightmare. Conscription is something they can do, and nobody will know their selection process. The Russians used this tactic, and im sure trump would use it, if he needed a meat grinder. The US army doesnt work like the Russian one, but Trump is a dictator and everything will be becoming more like russia going forward.
They’ll probably send all the “bad people” that ice has already picked up off the streets.
They are building databases. They will not just allow you to defy them. You are speaking freely to me right now because their power hasn’t grown enough. But it will get there, since nothing is preventing it. All that is left to prevent it is the people and they are doing nothing.
If they draft near-revolutionary people they get access to military equipment and incleases likelihood of actual revolution. If you concentrate them then they can coalesce as a group. If you spread them out then a lot of units will be dragged down.
Using ICE to round up dissenters avoids the risk of arming the would-be revolutionaries with credible military equipment.
You assume they will hand you working weapons, and not just hand you a stick.
You assume they will train you in how to use military tactics, and not just point the real gun at you then order you to run at the enemy in that general direction over there, so they can see where the bullets are coming from.
If you try to surrender to those at the other end, you’ll get shot in the back.
If you somehow make it over alive, they’ll know the general area and bomb it anyway.
We can’t assume they allow us any advantages, and need to plan for the worst.
We can see Russia doing this already in Ukraine, using conscripts with little to no training.
Americans already have access to firearms.
They will not train them.
Yes, you will be shot if you surrender, or if you retreat. These conscripts will be meant to die.
Maybe you intended to respond to someone else. Because I think we’re in agreement.
What about Barron? Seems like he’s military age.
Oh, they’ll draft him. In fact, they’ll draft him, and he’ll rise up the ranks with record speed! All his assignments will be positions like “Army Special Liaison to Customs and Border Patrol.” Any role they can find that can puff up his resume while putting him in absolutely zero direct physical danger and requiring next to no actual skills or duties. He’ll do photoshoots in uniform. And Trump will solemnly say, “I’m sorry we have to bring back the draft. But I believe this is so necessary that I have drafted my own son into this conflict.” Or they’ll find a way to fabricate a story of military heroism around him.
Be careful what you wish for. That’s what Baron being drafted would actually look like. The only way Barron would actually be drafted and treated as a common conscript would be if he miraculously developed a conscience and publicly denounced his father. That might get him drafted for real.
He knows computer so they’ll make him lieutenant at arms second class (grade O-½) with an MOC of:
Enjoy this MAGAts!
I think they should be the first to volunteer. They were the ones stupid enough to think it was the Democratic Party that was warlike (LOL) and voted for the pedophile used car salesman.
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I’ve been on fb goading them into signing up. They won’t, but it feels good
They won’t be the ones drafted.
It’s a good thing they have all of our voting data and will be able to target conscription on those they don’t like, which is exactly why and how they would do this.
He’ll probably figure out some way to target blue states only.
He’s really familiar with draft dodging so he won’t be surprised when the majority tells him to fuck right off
They’ll do it by Zip code. That will magically eliminate red state white kids.
Indeed and that is how the fuck Vlad selects conscripts for his shitty war.
I’d also bet that they will make sure to only draft those who don’t have a lot of firearms. Makes it easier to drag them out of their house.
How much you wanna bet he’ll force this mostly on his enemies, Democrat registered voters and beyond. He’d probably pull a Russia and put middle aged people on the front lines.
ICE repurposed to chase down draft dodgers and press gang anyone under 40 into the war effort
Though this potential strategy might backfire to a civil-war where both sides are somewhat equally trained…
How much you wanna bet he’ll force this mostly on his enemies, Democrat registered voters and beyond.
Democrats registered voters are not US government enemies
They’re still his enemies because they didn’t vote for him. It doesn’t take a high level intellect to see he’d weaponize conscription that way.
My son won’t go. Try to make him.
Everybody’s son needs to get a case of the bone spurs.
They’d have to drag me out of bed, through training, and then keep me from killing this in charge the second I was armed. Good luck fascist cunts.
A lot of commanding officers are about to have accidents if they do that.
Yeah, I thought if anything, Vietnam tought the lesson that the draft is a terrible idea for overseas deployment.
Of course, learning from history is not exactly the style of this administration.
Lol they’d better not give me any grenades
I would give most of the grenade back.
Well yea, I want to bring home a souvenir and the corporal’s boots are way over there!
Karoline Leavitt refusing to rule out a Draft,” Nilsson wrote Sunday in a social media post on X. “Once the Congressman’s and Ivy League parent’s children get drafted it’ll be a whole other ballgame.”
Whoever this “Nilsson” is, we know they’re a moron. Because those kids are getting the best deferments money can buy.
Conscription, you say? Nice, I’d be joining straight away if it weren’t for my…OUCH, my bone spurs. They are killing me today. Sooooooo much pain.
Only Old Draft Dodging Donvict Drumpf knows how much pain I’m in right now…
Lmao everyone should get bone spurs as a reason from their doctors.
All the senator’s sons safe tho.
It ain’t me, it ain’t me!
Fragging is BACK on the menu boys!
I say this as a veteran and an officer.
Same here and I entered during the late 1980’s. In our ranks, we had plenty of Vietnam War NCO’s, with CIB’s, calmly explaining to us young cadets/officers what happened to the shitty leadership. Big reason why I do not to fuck with people and their lives when the shit is serious.
All of the people I work with regardless of age, gender, race, or bank account are fully wanting a draft to send “libs, LGBTQ, black, brown, etc” people to the front lines to die or war will somehow turn them straight.
Because sending people who hate war to go to war is going to work out absolutely swimmingly, I’m sure. You definitely won’t have people constantly going AWOL or refusing orders or, god forbid, organizing as a unit after they’ve been given weapons and training to kill their superior officers and take the base on home soil for their own.
These people are fucking morons asking for the worst possible outcomes.
god forbid, organizing as a unit after they’ve been given weapons and training to kill their superior officers and take the base on home soil for their own.
Unfortunately that’s the only outcome I see after conscription. It’s been a stressful month and maybe it’s just my bad mood, but I don’t see any path forward from conscription that doesn’t lead through open, violent civil war. I mean look how well training Mujahideen went, let’s just train American Liberals (who profess to hate guns) this time.
What a fine bunch of people you work with.
Have you thought about a new job?
Sounds like some people need to be reminded why OSHA exists.
I work in the mining industry I’ve worked here for 21 years now, I’m born and raised here most of them are from outa state I’m not leaving out of spite.
I’m not trying to pick a fight with you … but did you say anything? Like did you call em out and tell em they’re brain is being held down by stupid while being fucked by crazy?
I’m not trying to say go cussing at them… but I see so many stories like this. “At my such and such they said such and such…” And then it’s like, what did y’all just let it go?
Make noise. Call em out. Make them uncomfortable. I do it. You say stupid shit like that, then I’m gonna say stupid shit like “Well if this is a holy war, the Christians should go first. God might be mad if you send the gays.”
I’m sorry if I’m coming off rude. It just we got to stand up for ourselves. Not just big protests, but even small spaces. It why I dislike the people on here that go. “Posting online doesn’t help blah blah.” YES the fuck it does. Letting them know in every aspect of their lives that someone somewhere out there won’t take their shit makes them mad. It ruins their lives.
So call them out every where. Say something atleast.
Again, I’m sorry, this isn’t all directed at you, my friend.
No I don’t say anything to them. When Covid was going on they were insane and I did try to correct them about it but that quickly escalated to the point where I was getting death threats and I had to be moved to another crew. Since then I just listen and observe them.
I mean, I guess I’m just cut from a different cloth. If someone threatened me with death, I would go ape shit. They only did to shut you up, and it sounds like they got what they wanted. Seriously, just cause they aren’t sending you death threats now doesn’t mean they don’t want you any less dead. So why keep quite? They’re crazy? Shit you are insane then.
I’ve been threatened for my beliefs before, and I straight up told the dude I would gut him and shit in the wound. Of course they’re gonna act crazy, but they’re pussies. Think about it. They are threatened by gay folks. Some of the chillest folks. Trans folks make them break down. They’re weak. They use threats of violence to scare us, and we all go. “They’re crazy they threatened me with death.” Every day these fuckers are threatening you with death, just under their breathe. But the moment you start threatening them back, either they’ll go “it was just a joke.” Or “I didn’t mean it like that.” Or they’ll cower away.
In my rant, I will say, be ready to fight. Even if you aren’t a fighter, always be aware of what weapons or items you have around. Remember, knees and faces are weak and no such thing as a fair fight. Pull hair. Bite. Jam a finger in an eye. Tyson their ear. Whatever it takes to win.
I am really sorry you have to deal with it. I wish I could clone myself and send my crazy ass to these folks. I just can’t back down from it. Maybe it’s the way my mama raised me, but if you’re gonna threaten the communities I care about and the people I care about, we can spill blood. We can spill it in the gutters, in the streets, and on the rocks.
Please do be safe, though.
I appreciate the concern, trust me I’m perfectly fine and safe I’ve been through a lot in my life. I was diagnosed with a severe mental illness when I was a teenager and have struggled with that most of my life. And in all honesty dealing with these asshats is a walk in the park compared to my darkest days as a teenager.
We should send Debbie’s fat ass from accounting. Fuck her, and the rest of her magat friends.
And if you didn’t report them to HR, you’re part of the problem.
I’m with you 110% but it’s so bad here that everyone from the top down is like this. The mining industry is pretty bad.
Jesus, if I knew I could 100% get an abuse payout from being abused at work I’d wear a wire or invest in some camera glasses, get a lawyer & burn that place to the fucking ground. “Mine owner” sounds like they’d make for a nice fat pinata.
I bet they don’t even give you the HR training that would inform you how exposed they are here.
Yep pretty much you hit the nail on the head. We don’t really get any training on HR issues. I remember a few years ago there was a female employee that complained she was getting sexually harassed. HR didn’t do anything. All they did was move her to a different department and the person who was doing the harassing got away with less than a slap on the wrist.
For one incident, that might be enough, but if you can show it’s a culture there, that the people at the top knew or participated, then it could get expensive.
Yes very true. The other issue is that being in a small rural town there is a lot of the good old boys you scratch my back I scratch yours happens a lot here not just at the job site, but in life in general here.
