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    “You don’t make authentic recipes from our country”

    “You keep making our recipes”

    I’m confused.

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      I guess the proper criticism would be that we stole their shit and bastardized it. I don’t care, chicken alfredo slaps.

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    Came from Italy and to be fair I didn’t try too much American food, I guess some corn meal and pancakes, meat was really good; but the real greatest thing I found in the US is the HUGE sandwiches they make in the Publix supermarket. Great stuff, loved it.

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    Every culture takes/mixes foods from other cultures and makes it their own. I think the difference with the US is that there isn’t an ancient history to form a basis.

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      Every culture takes/mixes foods from other cultures and makes it their own.

      Perhaps more importantly, every generation remixes their parents’ and grandparents’ food.

      French, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and Mexican food aren’t the same as they were 50 years ago. Lots of new dishes were invented and remixed, sometimes from imported influence. It’s not like chefs sit around and refuse to do anything different from how they learned. They do invent and innovate and tweak recipes. That’s, like, the job.

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        Stop it, you know what I mean. I’m talking European colonials which formed the basis for the modern US, even if it shouldn’t be that way. They stole Native American food too. The combination of these things formed the basis of “American” cuisine, but it wasn’t long ago in a historical sense.

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      Yes. I view Chinese American food as American food. Sweet General Tso’s Chicken, orange chicken, fortune cookies, crab rangoons, etc. Basically anything they overly sweetened.

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    Fuck all of you. Go to New Orleans in a week when crawfish season starts and eat some mud bugs, some blackened redfish, jambalaya, gumbo, cajun crawfish etouffee, etc. Best food in the world.

    Also, king cakes.

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        Uhhh. What else is there to do In NOLA? You absolutely have to go if you’ve never been. Just take Ubers and reasearch where you go stay. There is soooo much to do! It’s literally the funnest place to be, even if you hate Mardi Gras or the French Quarter. There is just all kind of stuff to do. Art, crab fishing, deep sea fishing, see alligators, voodoo shops, more drinking and partying than anywhere else, giant aquarium, Decandence and Pride parades for lgbt, naked bike rides, giant parades for St Patrick’s day, voodoo fest with lots of bands, Jazz fest, festivals and parades for random shit if they run out of excuses, daiquiris beers and jello shots available in drive thru, vampire balls, vampire bars, cocaine, pro football games, pro basketball games, cemetery tours, casinos, ghost tours, ferry to cute East bank or whatever, French market in quarter, walk around French quarter and party, take railcar to Irish Channel and party, go to beach 25 min away, etc.

        Ha ha. Holy shit, what is there to do in NOLA?

        What other place in the world is one almost guaranteed to find a person playing a suziphone on any given night? Amazing place.

        You can book a ride on an airboat through a bayou too!

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          I do have young kids as well sadly, otherwise it would have been fun it sounds like. I’ll check it out when I’m more free.

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        When I think of New Orleans I think of Mardi Gras where I can flash my tiddies and earn colorful shiny strings of beads. But imagine my surprise when I realized I could buy colorful shiny beads at the Dollar Tree and not even have to travel to Louisiana and expose myself.

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        They told you all the best stuff honestly. If you’re into alcohol you’ll have no trouble finding it. Amazing city though. The food culture there is incredible.

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          NoLA is for sure a food and drinking town but the music shouldnt be slept on either

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    America has, by a long shot, the most diverse and some of the best food on the plant. Go to one of the big three and you can have 3 star Michellin from every continent or some of the best street meat shit you’ll have on the same day.

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      America certainly has the most diverse kitchen because it’s a whole fucking continent. It has grasslands, mountains, coasts, lakes, everything and each microclimate you could imagine. I doubt, OTOH, that you’ve ever seen a Michelin rated restaurant from the inside.

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        I’ve been to one and two star places, never three stars (some day…). America has incredible food if you know what to look for. Some of the best Korean, Chinese, and Indian I’ve had in particular. It’s also a giant country with many immigrants, so it’s kinda obvious that it has good food. And southern food is great too.

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          I have not doubted that. It has, however., nothimg to do with the kind of cuisine you’d attract Michelin’s attention with. I also know a bit of the more sophisticated American (regional and international) kitchen and it is, IMIO, much better than most people believe. (Piece of cake, because you can get next to everything there.) However, most people also have no idea what the French kitchen or to some extent the more regional parts of the Italian kitchen (or Basque, or Catalan) might be about. I honestly don’t think the US really are playing in that league.

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            That is 100% fair. I just wanted to add my two cents. But you’re right, regional high cuisine, especially French, is a different league. I don’t necessarily think that league is superior, but it is a different class within haute cuisine.

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      meanwhile everyone in the world, who traveled to the US, will tell you that even the produce has no flavor.

      US food is objectively terrible compared to other nations.

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        This depends. In my experience anything processed tastes horrible because of chemical and sugar overload. But you can get great ingredients! Much better than here in Germany anyway.

        And there are many more diverse great restaurants than in most places in Germany, ngl. In the US, you can go to any small town and find a great homemade style Korean place, or something like that. No such luck in Germany, they’ll serve you 14€ frozen pizza.

        (In my experience anyway. These are large countries, so none of this is rule, just personal experience)

        The winner is no questions Italy, though. Best pizza I ever had was in 8€ in an Italian town with ~5000 inhabitants. Unbelievable. Only good restaurant there, though, but I’ll never forget the experience.

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        USA is big. Like, really, really big.

        The food you get in New York City and Waco, Texas don’t have a lot in common.

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          except they are both grown in the US using such intensive agricultural methods that the produce itself tastes different. US meat is banned in many countries because it’s considered not suitable for human consumption.

          on top of that, US fast food franchise culture has destroyed whatever food culture there was.

          food is something you eat multiple times a day, if a good American meal is something you have once in a while, it doesn’t count, if Americans eat fast food garbage every day, that’s American food.

          there are many large systemic issues that make the American diet garbage. not just “America bad”. Blame corporations and capitalism and all the politicians that were bribed to allow this to happen.

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            except they are both grown in the US using such intensive agricultural methods that the produce itself tastes different

            Not if you go to farmer’s markets

            And it’s frankly absurd to suggest that the existence of fast food means all American food is bad. That makes no fucking sense.

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              This is the type of guy who grabs strawberries from the supermarket in February, doesn’t wonder how they got there, and compares them to farm fresh in season strawberry. The ability to have a planets worth of diverse food year round is lost on them because they had a shitty supermarket fruit out of season once

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              it is so amazing how you prove my point and pat your back.

              there is good food only if you are rich, because nearly all American food is garbage.

              yhea, good produce should be the bare fucking minimum, not the maximum.

              I am not judging food culture based on what the rich can afford, or for one special meal. but for what everyone eats.

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                I am not judging food culture based on what the rich can afford, or for one special meal. but for what everyone eats

                I’ve got bad news then: 90% of everyone’s food fucking sucks. Hope you enjoy the fine cuisine of flatbreads, rice, and an occasional dish that stretches an animal protein so thin you forget it’s there. If you’re lucky there might be some months old fermented junk to season it.

                Or maybe you’re just racist and assume that every noble savage has access to fresh fish, fruit and veggies year-round?

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                  i lived in Spain for 18 years, 3 in Palestine, and currently in the US.

                  90% of the food over there is amazing, even if plant based, and the way you dismiss good regular food is sad and telling.

                  good food belongs to everyone, it shouldn’t be a luxury, it’s the bare minimum. if you disagree you’ve been brainwashed by American corporations.

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    Umm… it’s not mexican, chinese or italian but also american food doesn’t exist?

    I can’t tell if this was the joke or the meme just wants to shit on americans for stealing and mangling everyone’s food…

    Also, jalapeño poppers.

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      I think the joke is that Americans like to adopt foods or cooking techniques from other cultures, then change them to fit local tastes. This is how a lot of “traditional American” foods came to be. There is also a stereotype that American cultural practices (gastronomy included) are “not real” or that American culture as a concept doesn’t exist because it comes as a fusion of cultural practices from other countries. The meme is poking fun at people who may hold that belief.

      People also have a habit of describing the American versions of things to be “not real”, even if it never really claims to be. For example, fettuccine Alfredo in the US is an adaptation of fettuccini al burro (a real Italian dish), but is described as “not real Italian food” because it isn’t actually eaten in Italy. Or that orange chicken is “not real Chinese food” because it isn’t eaten in China. Which, to be fair, is true, but most American diners are aware that Panda Express, Olive Garden, and Taco Bell aren’t accurate representations of food eaten in China, Italy, or Mexico. They’re Americanised versions of food inspired by Chinese, Italian, and Mexican cuisine.

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    [off topic?]

    Great classic mystery novel, “Too Many Cooks” by Rex Stout. Nero Wolfe is a 300 pound private detective who hates leaving his Manhattan brownstone. He investigates from his armchair, sending his assistant Archie Goodwin to round up clues and bring him folks to interrogate.

    Wolfe is a famous gourmand and is invited to give a speech on American food to a group of European chefs.

    Interesting novel on many levels.

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    Tbf the kind of cultural fusion cuisine you get when another culture successfully imports another culture’s cuisine, is super interesting to me. I’d say this stands separately from intentional fusion restaurants, this is more something that happens organically as a cuisine is adapted to the ingredients and tastes somewhere away from where it is invented.

    The classic examples are Tex-mex and British curries, but every country has a few things like this. Japanese Italian is a pretty cool experience, not least of all because now I think about it there’s some places that are straight up Japanese/Italian cultural fusion, but others are more Japanese/Italian-American, so this thing can go deeper. And don’t get me started on the godlike German/Turkish magic happening on the streets of Berlin

    Always been a fan of trying local cuisine when I’ve travelled, but I’ve more recently been trying to add places like the above into the mix, as it’s genuinely always been interesting to me

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    I feel like if you know what typical American breakfast foods are, “breakfast taco” is pretty self-explanatory.