California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office said the governor was denied entry into a venue at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Jan. 21, after being invited to speak at the event due to “pressure” from the Trump administration.
Newsom had been scheduled to speak with Fortune at the USA House, Davos, a privately organized event, at the World Economic Forum, which has been recognized by the U.S. government as the nation’s headquarters in Davos.
Under Newsom, California is the 4th largest GDP on the planet and the Davos losers listened to racist, pedophile, rapist, felon fucknut!?!?
Yeah and then he ripped them a new one at the event that he did end up speaking at in Davos.
Ah the wonders of lemmy. A group of people who wonder how Trump won and then insist any replacement must be perfect.
Perfection? The only thing that stopped him from joining the right is that Trump holds grudges. That fascist reject hung out with Charlie Kirk and threw trans people under the bus despite boasting about how much he supports the queers for decades. He tried so hard to join them because he has always been a slimy pickme neofeudalist. If he gets elected, there will not be the reforms needed to prevent fascism from rising again. Hell, he might even usher it in.
Also, how do you think Harris lost to Trump? Do you think the Democrats bear no responsibility for it? That there were no long term trends that led to populism; tends helped along in equal part by both parties? Is it only that the nonvoters ruined perfection? Are there really no tactical missteps that you can remember from 2024? Really!?
Aw poor Gavin newsome, hell have to displace some of californias most vulnerable people via sweeps to feel better. If only we gave him more power we could have avoided this
Bad link, ads for days
Probably the same company that owns the USA network. Watching shows on that network will make you want throw your tv out the window. 6 minute ads per 4.5 minutes of show time. Their ads just keep gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooing. And yes. That’s how absurd they are.
Not even close to being a vaguely related company.
Yep just looked it up. Today is not nearly as bad as Network. Network is like a mosquito.
Just like the country with the same name. Absurd.
This is really funny considering Trump and Newsome seem to agree on quite a few things
Do you think newsom would steal children from parents, shoot mothers, molest children and call for war and tariffs?
Do you think newsom would let a prick like Steve miller pull his Hitler act?
These two people are not the same.
I would one thousand percent prefer Newsom over Trump and I almost guarantee Newsom wouldn’t send his brownshirts into red states to shoot mothers.
Newsome is going to enable the tech billionaires and Israel so basically we will keep marching in lockstep with project 2025 with funny tweets. He has been fighting the one time 5% billionaire tax proposal in California and he vetoes everything that upsets shareholder profit in California.
with funny tweets
Those are from a team of social media savvy folks. He’s demonstrated that he doesn’t always understand his own tweets.
They aren’t even all that funny to be honest.
You are right, we need new politicians and a new political system, not Democrats in power. Go get em tiger!
What if the mothers were homeless?
Homeless or trans he is happy to arrest or shoot for existing
Don’t humanize the people neo-liberals don’t care about like that!
If they are homeless or trans, Newsome is happy to arrest or shoot them.
He broke the marriage equality impasse. Without him I might not be married.
He protects LG rights and maybe BQ, but he has consistently vetoed T rights. I’m straight AF so this doesn’t affect me directly, but it affects my friends, so I care that he doesn’t.
To be clear, I voted for Newsome, because the Democratic party didn’t give me a choice. I’d primary him if I could.
I mean a lot of us have been voting blue no matter who for our entire adult lives and things keep ratcheting right into Nazi land
I’ve been voting that way too. I question it often but haven’t changed my mind yet.
I might have an issue with “vote blue no matter who” were it not for the fact that the morons around us are voting by the tens of millions FOR Nazi land!
They had the opportunity to vote for the center-right corporate-friendly administration that will probably not get much progressive stuff done because they have the same billionaire donors.
But no, they voted for the idiotic criminal self-labeled dictator THREE TIMES! They cared more about who could get hurt (LGBT, minority, female, “other”) than whether we could actually improve society.
The DNC shares a ton of blame too. I don’t mean to leave them out of it. I hope that some young progressive voices can drag the party to the left. It would be great to not be forced into a two party system in the first place of course, but I worry that the only way such a change will happen any time soon is that a lot of people die and then the survivors write new rules.
The democrats just voted to give ICE more money. They always do this and then we ratchet right into Nazi land… I’m getting pretty old and this always happens. I’ve watched it my entire life the democrats don’t ever do anything to stop the evil. They enable it every time
Exactly. Americans need to do something else because there isn’t any voting their way out of this. Keep voting democrat, but know that it wont actually fix anything. It’s not meant to.
The point isn’t to keep voting for democrats because they will save us.
The point, given we are forced into a two party system, is more about trying to take over the party most of the time while also voting against the outright nazis in general elections.
Understand that you will not be able to take over that party by voting alone. At least acknowledge that. Because the way you talk about it makes me think that the US is absolutely a lost cause when this is how their “leftists” speak.
Our standards have fallen so low
I do respect how being spit on is how respect is defined. - RTJ
Do you purposefully misspell his name?
No I just genuinely thought there was an e at the the end lol
I do. Ok, sometimes I write tRUMP, but most of the time my keyboard just types obese orange child rapist all by itself…
Time for my least favorite game!
“Imagine a Democrat did that to a Republican!”
… Fox News would be running that story for a week, screaming at the public about how they’re being discriminated against and how the Democrats hate freedom and free speech. How they hate “you” and your “values” etc etc etc…
ITT, idealists once again letting perfect be the enemy of good.
It’s worked so well the past few elections.
It’s bizarre. People don’t learn to negotiate or accept half a load of bread when offered.
would only apply if Gavin Newsom was “good”.
He is not good, he even denied genocide in Gaza and protected billionaires
Don’t forget all the transphobia too!
Stop saying that bullshit nonsense. He is not “good”. We don’t demand perfection, we demand that these people don’t be genocidal right wing fascist light.
I hate whatever pundit told you all to say “dont let perfect be the enemy of good.” It makes me feel like I’m talking to a bunch of programmed robots.
It’s a saying that isn’t new.
I welcome critique if Newsom before the primaries. I love AOC and sanders and walz as much as anyone here, but until one of them is electable, we’re kinda stuck in this chicken or the egg problem here. Like it or not, and to be clear i do not, someone with true leftist bona fides isn’t yet electable in the US. The best we can hope for is someone who can listen and change their mind.
youre giving up before there are even primaries. You dont want a leftist in the primaries?
As a voter in the primaries I go leftist. But if I’ve got money on the outcome, it’s someone like Newsom.
Newsom is unelectable and will not beat Trump or a Trump surrogate in the next federal election, and will not do anything to fix what Trump has done if he does get elected. It doesn’t matter how much voter shaming you do. Understand this, please, for the love of God. I do not want my country to have to go to war against yours.
How many times do you guys have to lose against Trump before you realize that the candidates you’re backing aren’t electable? You haven’t even tried a candidate that is true bonafide leftist.
Except mamdani. Who won his election.
You can hardly hold a New York mayoral election as a proxy for how the country votes.
Okay but I absolutely can point to the democrats losing elections against objectively unpopular republican candidates in federal elections.
How many offices are elected by the country at large?
Exactly one.
It’s not a saying, it’s a thought-terminating cliche used to shut down discussions by making your opponent seem “unreasonable” under any circumstance. For example, one could say “We should appreciate having Donald Trump as president because Hitler caused a lot more harm. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good” and be just as accurate as what you’re saying now.
I love AOC and sanders and walz as much as anyone here, but until one of them is electable, we’re kinda stuck in this chicken or the egg problem here. Like it or not, and to be clear i do not, someone with true leftist bona fides isn’t yet electable in the US.
What’s the scenario where they “become electable” in your mind, and what exactly is the path between here and there that involves electing more Bidens and Newsoms while being continuously told that anyone better is unelectable?
I don’t understand your Hitler example, it does not seem to be an example that fits the saying. How is Trump good to Hitler’s perfect? Or is it the reverse? Either way doesn’t make sense to me. Normally that saying is used in a context where someone is potentially getting some of what they actually want, because getting all of what they want is not feasible, and continuing to pursue all of what they want risks them not getting anything they want. In your example you seem to be using it like it means you get a choice of either a negative outcome or a worse negative outcome, which is not correct.
Trump is “good” because he’s not as bad as Hitler was. Therefore, we should be glad to have him despite him not being “perfect.” I’m not sure what’s unclear about that.
Normally that saying is used in a context where someone is potentially getting some of what they actually want, because getting all of what they want is not feasible
In your example you seem to be using it like it means you get a choice of either a negative outcome or a worse negative outcome
These two statements mean the exact same thing.
Trump hasn’t sent millions of Americans to the gas chamber (the “good”), and that’s better than the alternative right? If you put any value in this expression then how could you possibly disagree with this?
As long as a worse possibility exists or can be imagined, this saying can be used to justify quite literally anything, which is why it’s completely worthless outside of trying to make your opponent seem unreasonable in an argument regardless of the topic.
Those two statements do not mean the exact same thing. Trump being less shitty than Hitler doesn’t make Trump good, you are definitely misunderstanding the saying. It’s about trying to achieve goals, and the importance of knowing when you’ve maximized the achievement possible without ruining your chances of achieving the goal by pressing further. It doesn’t mean “I can imagine something worse, therefore this terrible choice I do not want is now alright with me”.
It’s about trying to achieve goals, and the importance of knowing when you’ve maximized the achievement possible without ruining your chances of achieving the goal by pressing further.
And in a scenario where the two outcomes are Trump or Hitler, Trump is the good achievement as that means millions of people don’t get murdered and the country is better off thereby maximizing progress toward our goal.
Trump being less shitty than Hitler doesn’t make Trump good.
It sounds like you’re starting to understand the point. Newsom being less shitty than Trump doesn’t make Newsom good either, yet here we are being told that he is despite their shared ideologies simply because he has a (D) next to his name instead of an ®. “Vote blue no matter who.”
It doesn’t mean “I can imagine something worse, therefore this terrible choice I do not want is now alright with me”.
Yet that’s precisely how it’s being used.
This is exactly the time to be going after libs like Newsom. Move the party left before primaries.
I actually agree with you. But experience tells me we’re too principled and undisciplined to support any candidate after the primaries.
I agree with that. Both voters and politicians share the blame for Trump being in office. Democrats fail to run good candidates, but voters refuse to have their voices heard in primaries as well as thinking that doing a “protest vote” in generals is useful.
The options have been rather poor, let’s all be honest here. This would work if we were talking about say, AOC. Newsom, however, is bad. Very bad.
Pritzker is fairly good.
Very bad is a sliding scale. And he ain’t that. I’m in California and see it first hand, it’s 55% good.
Ask some trans people about this if you know any. If you don’t, ask 196, there’s plenty there.
I will support him as far as it supports positive movement. I will criticize him otherwise. Same with every neo-liberal before him, and will continue with every neo-liberal after him.
The fucker is a democrat trump.
Jesus fucking Christ how deluded are you?
Idealists are letting perfect be the enemy of the good but I don’t think that’s why Democrats underperformed. Neither Clinton nor Biden/Harris were idealists of this sort (despite some stuff Harris said but didn’t mean back in the 2020 primaries) and they didn’t lose elections because of a lack of support from the idealists. So IMO while the idealists aren’t helping, the very much non-idealistic institutions of the Democratic party which prioritize seniority within the party over electability are to blame.
Considering how close both 2016 and 2024 were, don’t be so sure.
Clinton I don’t know. Harris did for sure (her less that “perfect” stance on Palestine). And Biden, the most centrist of the three, won. so, your point?
Fetterman/Gabbard 2028! Yes we can!!1!
why would you post such an ugly thing
It’s worked so well the past few elections.
The last few elections had historically unpopular, zero charisma candidates who all had policy positions so far right, they weren’t just to the right of the dem voter base, they were to the right of the average American…
Acting like anyone more liberal than Ronald Reagan was the problem is actively harmful, be cause yelling out voters to shut up and vote blue no matter who won’t actually solve anything.
And as we saw with Biden, at a certain point the absence of more harm isnt enough.
We need someone “progressive” enough to actually try and implement a solution.
Even the voting members of the DNC realized that a year ago…
Just hold on, any day now Lemmy will find a candidate so pure they can rally behind them.
Any day now.
“Gavin Newsom-” aaand the comments are flooded lmao. I mean, I despise Newsom as much as I can, but, also, this is World News.
In the spirit of a non-USA news subreddit, I’ll point out that California governor Newsom feels like a weird speaker for a world economic event. Yes, I know Newsom had to deal with the Republican administration when ICE and the military were deployed to Los Angeles, CA; but if you’re looking for a leader to advise you on opposing Trump from an economic standpoint, wouldn’t an economic department head from Canada be a better choice?
Canada’s been dealing with Republican isolationist tariff policy fairly well from what I know. Facing the most direct pressure over the “51st state” invasion threats, the Canadian population is pushing away from USA brands and investing in domestic products. With alllll the nations facing tariffs from the USA, surely a dialogue about encouraging such shifts in a population would be valuable.
California is probably the most powerful state in the US and more than some EU countries
I’m sorry, but the people at Davos have no material interest in opposing Trump. The global oligarchy and the politicians they employ are preparing the world for neo-feudalism, and Trump is their Messiah.
He was scheduled to speak in the US House (a part of the Davos conference). So no a Canadian doesn’t make much sense there.
Newsome is there because if California were to leave the US, we would be the fourth or fifth largest economy in the world, and if Trump keeps doing what he’s doing the rest of the US would dip to number 2
I really don’t think that California will secede and it would be stupid of any USA governor to suggest that. Sedition would warrant a military response, and I’m certain the Republican administration would obliterate the state given how they’re reacting to anyone opposing their fascist paramilitary “ICE”.
Edit: Upon re-reading I think I understand what you’re saying. Newsom is the head of California and he leads California’s economy, which includes Silicon Valley and the major Fin-Tech companies. I see; I see.
Yes, your edit is the point I was making
California has the fourth largest economy in the world.
it out-performs Canada.
so yeah, it makes sense to have him there as a speaker.
Given that snivelling Nigel Fucking Farage spoke at one of the Davos events the bar can’t be that high.
Good point. Newsome manages the fourth-largest economy in the world and Farage . . . well, I seem to remember something about a bus and the NHS, but I don’t think anything ever came of it, lol
I think the bus was Boris’s, which made it even more egregious for the fact that he subsequently became Prime Minister and acted like the whole thing was just a jolly jape that wasn’t meant to be taken literally.
Fuck republicans and fuck Newsom!
If he wins the primary he’s got my vote I tell you what.
I mean, a devil with hooves would be a better president than Trump. It could do much less damage.
But Newsom? Yea, he’s also right around there somewhere. He is a 100% just another puppet for the same billionares as Trump is (Thiel, Tech bros, Murdoch, Bibi etc.).
Nothing would change for the better under him. The ultra-rich would keep on getting richer, while everyone else would keep on sliding down. Fully 2/3 of the US citizens now live paycheck to paycheck. Both Trump and Newsom would be mainly working on bringing this up to 95-99%. Which would be causing even more (well deserved) unrest. And so Newsom would/is blaming the migrants for this, just the same. I mean, somebody has to be the scapegoat, so people don’t realise the rich would need to be taxed. And migrants are the obvious, already well-propagandised choice. Maybe ICE would murder and brutalise a few less people under Newsom, but even that is not guaranteed.
Internally for the US, maybe…
But Newsom wouldn’t be threatening Canada, Greenland and Venezuela with annexation, or putting tariffs on anyone who insults him. Or threatening the leaders of democratic allied nations with imprisonment and coups d’etat because of personal disagreements, or creating federal concentration camps in Florida and El Salvador, or deporting random Indians and Salvadorans to Uganda, or mocking veterans and the disabled, or threatening to dissolve NATO and most international organisations, or fantasising about stopping elections, or attempting coups d’etat upon losing an election, or stealing classified documents and hiding them in his bathroom after leaving office, or tearing down the White House for personal reasons, or putting his name on every institution and monument…
I think this subreddit needs to realise that although the problem is capitalism, Trump isn’t just any old capitalist monster. He’s a fucking tyrant.
Clown governor getting the standard Trump pimp slap.
This man is never going to be president if Donald Trump can bully him so easily
This man is never going to be president
Newsom would be a categorically awful pick for president. Being better than orangeboi is a very, very low bar.
And this of course also assumes we’re still having elections at that point - let alone this year.
He blocked RCV so forever on my naughty list
Oh no, the guy who hates the homeless, trans, and podcasts with Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro might not be president?
It’s almost worse than him hating homeless and trans people. He doesn’t give a single shit about them. He’ll do whatever he thinks will get him votes. He’ll talk shit about trans people one day and talk about how he wants to protect them the next. I’m convinced that he doesn’t have a single belief that he wouldn’t give up to be the Democratic nominee in 2028, if we even have elections then. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is worth listening to.
Exactly, the problem isn’t even what he has give up to be the nominee and win, it’s what he’s going to do once he’s in office and doesn’t have to pretend to appease voters. He’s basically JD Vance with mask on and better PR
No idea why you’re being downvoted. Likely the Liberal Mob with the “he’s better than what we’ve got” mentality.
Newsom might be good at trolling Trump, but he’s a garbage Neolib dick-weasel.
I think Newsom has a mob that idolises seeing him do theatrical owns of MAGA and confuses that with having a plan or substance and I think they see criticism of that as not fighting enough against MAGA
I don’t know how you see his soundbites at Davos and don’t notice they are for domestic US voters and have no substance besides a performative campaign akin to Trump’s strongman
I like to refer to the folks that believe in him (and people like him) as Blue MAGA.
Don’t forget BlueAnon too. The people currently arguing with me in a separate post about how we shouldn’t be complaining about all the inaction from Democrats because now’s not the right time to act and they’ve totally got some 4D chess move planned for the future - COMING SOON®™
I’m not a fan of Gavin since he’s just a run of the mill neoliberal, but I think it’s silly to characterize this as his getting bullied, the USA House was the one that caved in this instance.
What do you want him to do, force himself in to speak? I’m not a fan of the guy but I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do here
I’m not a fan of the guy but I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do here
You still haven’t articulated how he’s the one being bullied and not USA house, but ok.
Free California
