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      Yeah, I debated whether I should include it but tbh I think it would’ve lost its shitpost-factor and turned into political slop. I decided it was more a IYKYK situation.

      That being said I appreciate it being added in the comments.

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          Oh definitely not confusing. I just added my thoughts on the post! I was genuine in my appreciation of it being added to the comments.

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      It’s got to be satire. Beautiful women have never stopped being in ads. Why make this comment for this specific post if it’s not satire.

      Edit:

      Richard Hanania (born August 28, 1985) is an American political scientist and right-wing online personality.[3][4] He is the founder and president of the think tank Center for the Study of Partisanship and Ideology (CSPI).[5][6][7] He has written for The Washington Post,[3] The New York TimesThe Atlantic,[6] and The Economist.[4][6] He wrote The Origins of Woke and publishes his newsletter on Substack.

      Oh

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      Knowing absolutely nothing about the model… My first thought was that she was trans. Because the dipshits run into that all the time.

      They make no effort to actually understand anything and just live off vibes and beliefs with no factual basis whatsoever. Not doing a basic Google search to look up the model and verify before posting like an idiot is par for the course.

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      I don’t know if the post is real, but I want someone to point it out to the guy.

      Edit: I’ve browsed this guy’s account. The post is supposed to be sarcastic.

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        I know you meant this in a kind / supportive way so you’ll probably be receptive to this: commenting on whether someone is “passing” or not is super rude in the trans community. Just say she is beautiful if you must comment on her appearance

        Edit: I usually just assume best intentions but looks like I was wrong (I don’t dig through post history typically). According to those below me you’ll probably just keep being a crusty fucker; be better dude wth. We have enough assholes around here and being kind is a choice we can make everyday.

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    (Yes, I get the joke)

    What the hell causes people to believe there’s a large political faction that wants people in media to be unattractive? At worst, some people just get taken out of a fantasy world if the women are wearing straight bikinis for no reason, but there’s many ways to make them look sexy without attire being totally impractical.

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      I quite enjoy how those who are pro senseless lewdness in advertising are often the same people who want women to cover up.

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      It’s because there’s a significant proportion of people whose preferences are something behind “skinny, white, conventionally feminine woman”, and so when people outside of that demographic are featured in media, it freaks them out because their preferences are limited to people who fit within that narrow description, so wider diversity of people depicted in media is, to them, synonymous with a push for unattractive people in media.

      That in and of itself isn’t a problem — they have every right to their own preferences, and I have no interests in trying to convince them of anything. The problem is because they have attached themselves to the idea that their personal preferences are the objective standard. So when they see more diversity in media, and others thirsting for people they would consider to be objectively unattractive, this destabilises the idea that their preferences are The Truth. This means that, rather than just accepting that people like what they like, they contort themselves into believing that this is all a big conspiracy to try to push objectively unattractive people into media. Framing things like that means they end up seeing this as something that is entirely a political push to erode all foundations of society as part of some Woke ploy. They feel threatened and genuinely scared that there will be a future where there is literally no-one who they find attractive represented in media. Which is to say that someone who is accustomed to being the boot distrusts people who want there to be no boot, because surely they must be lying so that they can seize power and be the boot and crush everyone else.

      At the heart of this is a zero-sum way of thinking of the world. They have deeply internalised that if one group in society gains rights, or power of any sort, then it must come at the cost of someone else. Some of them occasionally show awareness of the moral awfulness of them using their privilege to oppress others in society, and they briefly have moments where they understand that if the oppressed wished to take our retribution against them, we would be justified. However, they are incapable (or unwilling) to actually reckon with all the cognitive dissonance they’ve built up, and so their fear causes them to become ever more rigid in their worldview.

      I find it fascinating, really. I am a fat, queer punk, and my existence is viscerally horrifying to them, because I am the epitome of so much of what they hate, and it breaks their brains to imagine that someone could find me attractive (tbh, it still sort of breaks my brain a bit too, but I’m getting there with improving my confidence). They genuinely believe that THE WOKE LEFT want everyone in media to look like me, even though that would be the opposite of the diversity we actually want.

      They don’t believe us when we say this though. Their zero sum thinking combined with their willful inability to acknowledge that their own preferences are as subjective as anyone’s means they don’t believe us when we say this though, and that this is all part of our dastardly plot to seize absolute power for ourselves and make them be the oppressed ones.

      It’s quite sad for them in the end. I’ve found that a huge part of what has allowed me to become more confident in myself has been acknowledging and embracing all the non conventional things I find attractive in other people. For instance, I firmly believe that the most beautiful point on basically any human body is the point where the curvature of the calf turns from being convex to concave. And because I don’t feel the need to convince other people of this, I can just let myself like what I like and be free to bite my partners’ calves. Even if their tastes do genuinely align with what is considered to be this narrow notion of “conventionally attractive”, I can’t imagine they feel very free to actually enjoy their own desires and their own bodily potential

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      Ehhhhh… I have met a number of people who just naturally are that skinny, and not by way of anorexia or bulimia.

      Not saying there’s no possibility of that here.

      But I am saying that some people actually just are that skinny or thin, or of waifish frame, and they aren’t all feinting fainting from headrushes or anemia or iron deficiency all the time.

      This is about on the borderline, by my eye at least, of being able to definitively say one way or the other.

      You wanna see really serious weight retention issues?

      Look up Eugenia Cooney.

      Uh, depending on your constitution, NSFW/NSFL tag on the above suggestion, I guess.

      Yeah, I’m not even gonna post an image here, many pictures of her, that she publishes herself… yeah… thats what really serious anorexia looks like.

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    Prada, 2023:

    Prada, 2022:

    Prada, 2018:

    I might have switched up 23 and 22.

    But uh… what?

    Like, I’ll give you that Prada seems to consistently go for models that kinda look like aliens, with pretty big eyes and generally chiseled or striking features, they try to emphasize triangular faces and chins, strong cheekbones…

    But… are these not generally attractive women?

    … I was going to ask what this person is smoking, but I’m guessing its meth.

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        … I once saw a guy rip a page out of a Bible, to use as rolling paper for a rollie, rolled cigarette.

        Called him ‘Holy Roller’, he thought it was funny.

        I’m now imagining something similar but like, with an American Flag… nylon would make for like, the worst fucking rolling paper possible, both for the manual process of trying to make the rollie, and it would just be… complete fucking poison to smoke… but… I’ve seen worse… uhhhhggghhh…

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      They didnt actually LOOK at any Prada magazines. They just heard it from some jackass on Twitter and fell for the grift.

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    She looks like she’s afraid of being alone with the person taking her picture. Because of the implications.

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      Supermodels have deer DNA injections now, this gives them that gorgeous “fifty seconds from a heart attack” chic

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      “Woke” is when they’re mad about how things are or are now not. “Woke” is anything and nothing, which makes it usable for everything.

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          Unironically, that is as consistent with the GOP’s usage of the word as anything else. Because the youths say “6 7” and they refuse to understand it.

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            I agree, but maybe we underestimate the youth, and we are still the melders of their understanding… Thus it may be best to embrace the abnormalities and discuss what we feel pertinent. If the heart of socialism is at understanding the value of people and treating them properly… Tearing them down for making jokes in a time of terror gets us no where. So I figure, support; joke. And be there. If one asks, answer. Don’t preach. Enlighten don’t breach. The world’s fucked… But if my last day is to make anothers day better, that may be all I can do

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      That’s why they hate the yearly Pornhub report.

      IIRC there’s a pattern of greater interest in trans porn in all red states.

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        There sure is, and Grindr always crashes whenever and wherever there’s a Republican convention in town.

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    Meanwhile, the ad companies do not care.

    The right wants to claim these companies are on their side. The companies aren’t on their side, they’re not on anybody’s side. If they think they can generate more sales with a fat, black model in a bikini, they’ll do it. If it’s a thin trans model, they’ll do that. If it’s a slim blonde with big tits and a swastika tattoo, they’ll do that instead. Whatever moves product.

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    Ahh, he wanted to say something else but white supremacists are only brave enough to openly share their thoughts when they have the upper hand, militarily speaking. Might makes right being foundational/the shortest definition of their ideology in the West and all of that.

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    I’m sorry, so for the past 4 years we only had “ugly” women in ads?

    Does this idiot understand how marketing even works?

    Yeah, we had more plus sized models, because for one, they are a target market for advertisement because, and I know this sounds crazy, plus sized women also need clothes and gasp humans like to see “people like them” in ads and people like “pretty people like them” even better.

    None of this is new and this is just more Maga brain rot

    Man, i do wonder how general intelligence.in the US compares to Canada or Mexico, or Europe. It can’t be good.

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      I don’t expect you to know who that model is because I didn’t know either, but what I did do was skim the comments first before posting a giant tirade and getting wooshed… ;)

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        I wasn’t 100% who she was, but I thought she looked like the woman from Euphoria. (I get what you were saying, I just figure it may give context to some people that didn’t recognize her right away)