• a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      It’s like most science fiction revolving around this particular topic. The ostentatious need to show off this sort of perverse wrecking of somebody’s skin and face is meant to signal something. This is a modern version of being fat to show that you have wealth.

      It’s meant to show that you have the disposable income to become whatever version of beautiful Trump wants. In this case it’s seeking out Eastern European features one faces that otherwise wouldn’t house them.

      And why everything looks like a goddamn clown mask. They’ve gone too far too fast and with too much modification. Welcome to repo the genetic opera or so many other stories.

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    12 days ago

    they’re against someone else using surgery to affirm themselves, but then they need surgery to affirm themselves

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      Well, tbf demonstrating that the rules don’t apply to the in-group is part of fascism. It’s kinda funny that they’re this committed to the bit though, they look like absolute freakish ghouls now and will never be the same.

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    Controversial opinion maybe, but I consider most cosmetic surgery a clear sign of mental illness.

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    12 days ago

    Those are some brave women. I would shit my pants each morning if I would see a monster like this in the mirror.

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    Nah, I’m not going to judge women based on their looks. Many women get facial work done, they’re not scum like these.

    They’re pieces of shit inside, that’s what’s important.

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      Ok, no need for a high horse. It’s not their looks being judged, it’s their choices. And it’s not cosmetic surgery itself, it’s this cosmetic surgery. Mar-A-Lago Face, the shellfish allergy look.

      I will continue to judge the shit out of anyone, man or woman, who gets cosmetic surgery to appeal to MAGA.

      If you want to get work done to “fix” something a feature that bothers you, that’s fine. But if you get work done to secure a better job in the Trump administration, it’s open season on your swollen, ugly face

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        Other people having morals = being on their high horse

        Your false perception says more about you than them 😬

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            You’re using words and phrases and it doesnt seem like you know what they mean. Like “defend” for example.

            Are you deliberately misusing them or are you just that fucking stupid?

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      Yeah one on my favorite podcasters, Jennifer Welch from the I’ve had it (IHIP) is an amazingly progressive lady but has had a little more work done than I would choose for her, but she’s great.

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        I looked her up. I think I can tell (or I’m inclined to see it because you said so) she’s had surgery and it’s really not so bad. I don’t think that’s anywhere near the same thing as bloating up your face to appeal to a fascist gocernment. The aesthetic is ugly and the reason for it is, too

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          Yeah it’s not bad, she looks good and all. I just hope she doesn’t get too much, I think people get started and don’t stop, it’s how the maga face mentioned happens, becomes a mania.

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    I think I figured out part of why the word “ghoulish” kept coming to mind.

    When the face is full of filler, the eyes become sunken in.

    Just like a ghoul from fallout.

    And then they all have small noses. And these too will sink in.

    So ghoul.

    The thing is, it’s almost impossible to have that filler removed. Plus it has stretched the skin. So removing it would make their face look like how the skin looks in an area of extreme weight loss. That’s kinda whatever on people who have lost weight/had babies , It is what it is.

    But This will really mess up the face. It’s not natural.

    The alternative is to keep adding more filler until the face is 5x thicker and the eyes are so far sunk behind bags of filled flesh that they look black and demonic.

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      Plus the filler is absorbed by the body, but at different rates. So in a few years it’s gonna be irregular and lumpy. Some people go to the extreme length of having glass microbeads mixed with the filler (this is illegal in the US) but those migrate around within the tissue. Once you start this shit, it’s just a constant Death Becomes Her maintenance operation to keep it from looking worse.

      Or as they say in Ab Fab, “pretty soon you’re a just visitor in your own face.”

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        I’m thinking of those vault 88 experiments you do with the bike, the soda machine, and the slot machine. (I’m currently playing FO4. First time. it’s mostly polished and pretty fun. )

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    Recently saw a video from an ex-maga, ex-mormon woman who speaks about these people and it was specifically about this face. she said they look like that because they’re doing drag. i see it. it’s performative gender expression.

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      What interests me is that I’ve never once heard an actual explanation. “They’re doing drag” might be true in an analytical sense from an outside perspective. But it’s not the reason they do it.

      One would assume the reason you start is because you’re encouraged to get some Botox and subtle touch-ups are a very beauty trend among women. But they all end up with very similar features and it’s always overdone. So there must be common pushes and pulls. I would just like to hear it in their own words what has led them to this.

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        It’s more that they do what drag typically mocks - that kind of hyper performance of feminine conformity. Classic drag has always been mocking the way that conservative women perform gender roles.

        It’s supposed to look like they got work done, because it reflects their commitment to the idea that women should be always performing “woman.” Women are meant to be looked at by powerful men, and they are acceding to that understanding.

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          Again, I agree with you, you basically repeated and expanded on the point of the person I replied to. Like what you’re giving me is a good anthropological analysis.

          But if you asked these women why/how they got to this point they would not say “well I’m just commiting to my performance of being a woman to appease the male gaze”

          For one thing, most of them probably still hold agency to themselves despite the fact that it seems clear they are doing this to appease men. They would most likely have explanations for all their changes and who/what influenced them.

          A terrifying probability is that these women literally get told by their spouses/others that if they don’t get these specific surgeries they won’t be able to do something. If it’s that then I would like to know who specifically tells them this and what they tell them.

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        I can say as someone who’s seen similar things in different groups it’s body dysmorphia. You focus on a flaw you want to fix enough to pay to get it fixed and it’s better, but if you don’t have discipline about it you’re prone to still see it. It’s similar to anorexia where they go from seeing fat that may or may not be there to seeing the torso bulge of having organs and thinking that it’s fat.

        Then there’s social factors. If your social group has worries, well humans tend to echolocate reality off what those around us think and say, so you’re prone to the same worries and the same solutions.

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        It’s the right wing Christian Tradwife thing, isn’t it? They have to prove how very womanly they are, and how lucky their husband is to have such a womanly woman.

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    The exaggerated features almost remind me of stage makeup. Stage makeup isn’t meant to look good close up or under normal lighting, but is meant to be viewed from the back of the theater and under bright lights from above.

    There may be a core of this group that was originally styling, using cosmetics, and undergoing treatment with the goal to look a certain way from a distance in photos and on video (but not necessarily up close and in person). From there, the acolytes followed the styles not realizing why they were chosen.

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      I’d guess shitty doctors promising things they can’t deliver is also a contributing factor. Or maybe just straight up lies about what is attractive. Those swollen lips are such a turn off.

      But then again, I’m also turned off by a lot of breat implants but some guys seem to love it, so maybe my tastes aren’t the average. Though I really do wonder how much the average person goes along with what others say is attractive vs making up their own mind.

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        I have to wonder who decided that large breasts are supposed to be attractive. Like when did we have that conversation?

        It’s not like people are out there having enlarged shoulders. So it’s not just the bigger is better.

        I’m convinced that plastic surgeons just told these women that men find unrealistically large breasts more attractive simply because breast enlargement is an easy thing to do and it’s a quick win for them.

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            I think it’s really that big boobs used to be a lot more special before the obesity epidemic. It’s easy to have giant tits with >40% body fat. Even cis men can do it.

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    Man how do so mamy have horrifying lips? I’m generally against body shaming but lip and cheek surgeries make people look like straight up aliens.

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      I’m ok with body shaming as long as the thing being shamed is something that they intentionally did to themselves.

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          Given the fact that all of the people with terrible taste seem to also be terrible people I’m inclined to think that it’s probably more an emergent property of the philosophy.

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      While you were correct the thing people forget with these types of comparisons is that they would not continue to look like the before images even if they didn’t get any work done.

      A lot of these women are well past their 20s and while I don’t think the result of their work is attractive however in the age of social media (or just regular media) it is better to look like this then to “look old” as a woman.