Brought a carpet cleaner in July. The wheels literally fell off in December.
A Hoover.
A Hoover that sucks? heh
Actually, it doesn’t. Supposed to spray water and then vacuum it up. That feature works half the time.
Ugh all appliances are such crap now. I want an old vacuum that lasts a lifetime from the 80s. They were much better.
Just get a Miele.
Was surprised to see this here. But yes absolutely, they are expensive don’t get me wrong. But they are worth it. Their shit just works, i have their washer and heat pump dryer, dishwasher, and CX1 canister vacuum. Each are the best version of that thing I’ve ever used. Dishwasher will clean anything no rinse/soak needed even for baked on pasta or cheese, vacuum is powerful but also shockingly quiet, dryer sips power (700w avg load) but dries everything just fine.
Had em for the years now, i am NOT gentle with the vacuum i drag it outside to clean the car and other various things it’s not really for, toss it around use it as a footstool sometimes and it shows no signs of the wear. You get what you pay for with them
Same make and model as the last one. The first lasted about ten years, the second didn’t make it ten months.
Henry
Numatic has a whole family. Hetty, Charles, George.
Henry! Henry Aldrich!!
You clearly aren’t thinking about the investors. How would the lines go up?
Im imagine the “made in Britain” scene from the IT crowd
Never saw it, but I think I get the idea
They buy a computer monitor “made in Britain” which immediately catches on fire. They grab the fire extinguisher but it doesn’t spray anything. He looks and it also has a “made in Britain” sticker. Once he looks at… The fire extinguisher catches on fire.
The scene where Moss calmly sits down to compose the email gets me every time
I’ll just put this fire over here with the other fire…
I heard that in Moss’ voice of course
I’d be disappointed if not
Thanks
Dysons are the first vacuum cleaner that I don’t actively loath. They’re not perfect, but they’re built to… actually work well.
Just not for very long. Get a Miele and be done with it.
That isn’t my experience. Bought two, one six years ago, one three years ago, both still work perfectly. Sold one of them recently for half what I paid for it.
First I’ve heard of Miele. I’ll look into it, but the reason why I got Dysons in the first place was constantly hearing others rave about them.
On my second Dyson, not sure why I bought a second one. Thing is always getting jammed up with hair and needs complete disassembly to clean it out, and batteries will only last two years before needing replacement. All the joints are very loose as well now. Will be going with the Miele HX2 at some point soon which is actually cheaper than some of the Dyson.
From experience, the filtering cyclones in the mieles are quite a bit worse than the Dyson.
If you want a good and lasting vacuum, don’t buy a cordless one. When looking at corded vacuums, miele is definitely one of the better options.
The cordless sticks, and stick vacuums in general are not built to be BIFL. Doesn’t matter what brand you get.
Read the reviews. HX2 isn’t that much better reviewed and it costs a hell of a lot more.
Been through this.
After an allergy test revealed that I had a dust allergy I bought a Dyson to replace our cheap generic vacuum cleaner and thought it was the bee’s knees. Then the power switch went. And it would clog the power head constantly. Then, at about 10 years old it packed it in completely when the motor died.
Replaced that with a Miele which hasn’t missed a beat. So much so we bought a second when we moved into our current house (one for upstairs, one for downstairs, I’m lazy). In terms of suction they are the same or better, but ergonomically they shit all over the Dyson. Not as purple though.
The old Dysons are way better than whatever the hell they’re doing nowadays. I could genuinely feel the difference in the plastic quality when I moved from an older DC 39 to a newer Big Ball (the Big Ball’s is significantly worse). Not to mention the Big Ball has gone through two roller heads (both had the mechanism break). No wonder their newer cordless models have a 2 year warranty instead of the old corded 5 year. They used to be really good, if a bit expensive, but now the options from Bosch and Miele look far more attractive.
Bought a refurbished stick one about 8 years ago and its still going strong after a battery replacement (its modified to use my power tool batteries now, same voltage so no hassle). I’m just happy I can get replacement parts easily.
Dyson
It’s just too bad about his politics.
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Our old fridge still works but the icemaker and water dispenser broke and then started to spray outside and leak inside if connected.
But we kept it and put it in the garage and keep beverages in it. Man does it feel opulent to have a garage drink fridge.
Kind of like when I became able to afford paper towels. Pure wealth and extravagance.
Garage drink fridge is the most underrated luxury item out there. Total life changer.
Stuck on step one, where do I get a garage
Obviously look for signs for garage sales 😜
“I will take this space for $5”
“uhh the garage itself isn’t for s-”
shows gun “I said I will take it for $5”
Wait… This revealed an old memory… Wasn’t this actually a sketch on the original animaniacs?
🥁✨
Start a tech company. They spawn garages as part of their “backstory” stage.
Do NOT buy Samsung appliances
Im not saying buy Samsung but my two fridges, one 5+ years and one closer to 9 years still work. No idea about other appliances. In Europe.
The only problem I had with my Samsung fridge was that the shelves kept breaking. They were expensive to replace too and kept breaking. Eventually I installed a wooden shelf haha that lasted way longer than their plastic. Looked rustic too haha
It was always cold though. Never stopped working
Yeah knowing them they’ll need to be hooked up to the internet and have mandatory apps. Also they steal the data of the food you eat.
My mom’s Sammy washer from 2021 ended up with a damaged control board. The part is no longer available, she ended up buying a while new one 😬
My Samsung Dishwasher was ass. Had to get rid of it because it didn’t clean well.
I got one of those and they had to replace it twice before it even worked I just sent it back and got a bosch
I ended up getting a used LG dishwasher and it work really well, but during kitchen renovations I think dust got into the motor, it got noisy, ran being noisy for a couple year and it got rid of it, but it still worked. My parent LG fridge broke multiple times under warranty, never ran right and was related to the lg linear compressor lawsuit. I have a GE dishwasher now that seems okay, but the cycle is over 3hr!
You can still buy high quality, lasts a lifetime, refrigerators. We have grown accustomed to $400 refrigerators that will last five to ten years worth of doing a piss poor job (freezing some areas while not cooling others). A “buy it for life”, excellent refrigerator of equal size will run you $10k+. Most people will opt to buy the less expensive one every few years, either for economic reasons, or because they feel that it is a better deal to replace the $400 fridge every five years than to pay thirty times the price for a high-end/professional unit.
Most people will opt to buy the less expensive one every few years, either for economic reasons, or because they feel that it is a better deal to replace the $400 fridge every five years than to pay thirty times the price for a high-end/professional unit.
Unless they live to be 170+ (assuming they’re 20 when they buy their own fridge) the $400 one every 5 years is definitely a better deal than one that lasts a lifetime and costs 30x as much.
That’s ignoring all the problems created by those fridges failing at random.
Still, the GP’s ratio is wild. There’s no way a fridge that lasts a lifetime costs 30x more to make. It’s all monopoly practices.
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As a mechanic, I had a Miele in my condo, and now have a Bosch Benchmark (both built ins with custom panels) in my new house. Both were $10k+.
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There are normal people that can afford them.
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I earned it.
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This is the debate we had when redoing our kitchen. It hurt me to add $8k to the bill (the difference) just for the fridge, but it really is genuinely a different experience. At least it came with a 6 year manufacturer warranty too.
The drawers glide smoothly on real hinges with a soft close, the shelves are individually lit and glass, what plastic there is is thicker and smoother. Everything is easy to adjust or remove for cleaning. It even has a cartridge that removes ethylene gas and produce stays noticeably much fresher.
And as a bonus, I got to support a union manufacturer in the US (subzero).
Six years? At $8K? That’s ridiculous.
Apologies, 6yr full service warranty, 12yr system warranty.
Except in this case this particular fridge has worked for 40 years already, so just by Bayesian statistics it is more likely to keep working than a modern one from a range that are known to break. Same reason why some old cars are getting more expensive nowadays.
3-year-old fridge went out two weeks ago. Guy finally showed up to put the compressor in today. Left and it started rattling. Help.
If you’re being serious try shimming it, determine where the noise is and chuck a block between. My brand new Whirlpool rattles because the floor is uneven so I have a small piece of wood between the floor and front bottom piece which takes care of it.
I am lol. It sound like a loose belt in a car motor just slapping rapidly. I may look into your idea (and thank you), but since we bought it it has been through two homes and many positions on the kitchen floor and the sound never occurred before this technician got in there and replaced the compressor. I’m not confident it’s the position. Sounds like something loose deep inside.
He didn’t remove the air iirc
I had to have my jazz board replaced twice on a very expensive Amana fridge. I don’t know the answer.
Or when you get tired of the ads on the new one.
We had a $2k fridge that broke within a few years of owning it. We got it fairly discounted due to a dent in the side.
Our $150 fridge from Sears is still in the garage, and still runs perfectly after owning it for 13 years. Looks pretty much like the one in the pic.
When my wife and I bought our house almost 30 years ago, it didn’t have a fridge or a washer and dryer. It had a dishwasher and a range. We bought the fridge and washer and dryer when we moved in.
We’ve replaced the range twice and the dishwasher, washer, and dryer three times each.
The fridge is coming apart at the seams, but it still keeps food cold. Most of the door shelves are gone. Both crispers have broken and been put back together with epoxy. The deli drawer is cracked such that it falls out of its track and has to be carefully put back. We want to replace it, but every time we get ready to, another large appliance bites the dust and its replacement gets postponed again.
I’m afraid to even talk to my wife about replacing it at this point because it feels like if I mention it, the washer and dryer will go.
Do you have landfills or junk yards in you area? You might be able to scrounge up parts for that fridge.
All my drawers broke too, as well as the jazz board, twice. Pieces of shit.
Hear me out: cover it in foil tape, like the kind used for HVAC. instant “modern” fridge
They actually do sell peel and stick “stainless steel” covers which should work well on a fridge since it has no parts that get hot in the front and sides.
Modern fridges use the sides to increase heat transfer surface and improve overall efficiency.
It’s supposed to be a meme, but it’s solid advice for any appliance. They used to have lifetime guarantees. Now they upload AI garbage and lock features behind paywalls. Then, they’ll randomly break down one week after the one year warranty.
I got a new Whirlpool fridge, not a smart one, when I moved into my house less than a year ago. The water filter has already demanded it be changed.
Thankfully these filters aren’t RFID tagged like some, so I could just reset the timer.
Funny and all, but interesting, the life span of appliences has remained fairly steady: https://studyfinds.org/appliances-made-to-last/
The study (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/share/EWYZVBTQDFJXHTV9PPUQ?target=10.1111%2Fjiec.13608) found that most appliances last a similar number of years, and that the number of cycles each appliance lasts has increased (ie we use them more often). notable exception was a stove.
Basically, survivorship bias.
Microsoft just basically tried to force most everyone using a Windows 10 system to purchase a new system, ostensibly over a flaw/shortcoming in the TPM module.
Samsung just started pushing advertisements into their fridge’s Android displays.
Apple and the mobile ISPs have been pushing a ‘replace every two years’ agenda for well over a decade.
I think the ‘short life span’ here has more to do with the ‘modern CPU fridge controller’ “failing” due to planned obsolescence, and not as such the mechanics of the refrigerant systems themselves.
I mean, sure? but pretty much everyone of your examples is about general computing, and while i HATE the samsung fridge thing… it doesnt mean it will die any earlier.
Yes, but these new smart fridges are just classic fridges with a general purpose computer attached. Do you think Samsung is going to offer a replacement/upgrade kit for the embedded tablet, or do you think they’ll use it as leverage to sell you a new fridge?
Still doesn’t change when the physical components are likely to die.
You are telling me I’m going to have to replace my car because it’s infotainment unit is out of date.
If the infotainment system doubles as the gearshift as a deliberate way to marry the two, yes! Try driving a Tesla (well don’t because of bad corporate ownership; but still, as example):
- The steering wheel isn’t connected to the wheels, it’s connected to the computer.
- The windshield wipers are controlled by the computer.
- Everything in the security system checks in by the computer.
- The car can be remotely disabled by the computer
If they can make a vroom vroom box dependent on a computer, why do you think a chill box is exempt?
- “I’m sorry, but the temperature control requires registering an account in the app”
- “Oh, the in-door icebox needs a subscription, but you’re welcome to use trays in the freezer if you prefer”
- “You missed your installment payment, please pay in 3 days or cooling functionality will be suspended”
- “The child door lock has been automatically engaged for your safety”
- “The fridge of the future requires an always on internet connection”
You think CEOs aren’t just itching to pull crap like this? What use is it if the motor technically operates, if the controls simply refuse to turn it on?
I’m sorry, but I’m talking about the real world, where things actually happen.
I already shared you the study on lifespan of appliances over the decades, and how the old ones we still working are usually due to survivorship bias, I’m not sure what more you want.
I’m just not interested in arguing made up hypotheticals.
Excuse me. I was a few days early … now can we discuss this?
https://apnews.com/article/ces-worst-show-ai-0ce7fbc5aff68e8ff6d7b8e6fb7b007d
“Everything is an order of magnitude more difficult,” she said of the fridge that also uses computer vision to track when food items are running low and can advertise replacements.
The South Korean tech giant also said “security and privacy are foundational” to the AI experiences in the fridge.
Sure I’ll just get rid of my Lamborghinis for some space in my garaaage.
Don’t cheap out on your Lamborghinis, just build a second garage for them or your refrigerator!
Fun fact, that “guy in his garage” was Tai Lopez. He and a partner later bought the RadioShack and Pier 1 brands, and as of September, are facing charges for defrauding investors in a ponzi scheme.
gotta keep some of your Knowledge in the fridge too. Cuz that’s the most valuable thing
On the subject of devices lasting a long time, does anybody remember when Ikea used to have displays in their stores where you could see a machine testing a piece of furniture over and over? Like, they had one that simulated someone sitting down in a chair over and over again, or one that simulated a drawer being opened over and over again.
Those machines were great. They should bring them back.
What decade we talkin’ cause I do not remember but would have never left the store if there was a punishment robot there
Here’s a video from 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s_gyzshNPQ
And another one from 2012 testing cupboards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW6RsT4w2hY
Ooh, here’s ine from 2018 where a machine hit 9,999,999 tests
“What is my purpose?”
“You open and close drawers.”
“Oh my God.”
Somewhat relevant: when I first searched for those videos I searched for “robot that tests Ikea chairs by sitting on them” or something. I got lots of results, but every one of them was about robots that were building furniture, not testing it. To actually get the results I wanted I needed to say “furniture testing machine”.
So, I guess the Internet doesn’t think those are actually robots, so they don’t worry about their purpose.
I 'member them from early 90s till late 2ks.
