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    I never thought I’d see a POTUS consider denaturalising US citizens as well so you’d hope they won’t draft you but I wouldn’t discount it. Cannon fodder is always necessary especially if you’re not white or MAGA.

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    I’ll kill half a dozen cops or MP’s or die trying if they try to forcibly deploy me before I do a single goddamn thing for Trumps Military.

    If somehow I’m deployed against my wishes my first action is to make a white flag out of my underwear, surrender to whoever they deploy me against, and share as much intelligence as I have (probably 0 but who cares).

    This isn’t some power fantasy by the way, I don’t want to hurt anyone.

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      This is why I don’t think the strength of the US military holds up to its historical reputation today.

      No one wants to fight stupid wars for someone else, but they are willing to defend themselves, their loved ones and their way of life. And we have the internet that allows us to know that yes, other people also live a similar life to me and have similar thoughts. Sure, they have all the prepper and tacticool guys dying at the chance to get on a chopper. But real life warfare, especially guerrilla, is not like in the (American) movies

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    We have assessed your current situation and are pleased to inform you we have created a project for people with skills like yourself.

    Welcome to operation meat shield where we’ll cash in those 30 years of contributions and pensions to keep the markets going I up and the boomers from having to face consequences.

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    Americans are not unhealthy due to lack of affordable healthcare. They are unhealthy due to the availability of cheap, heavily processed, high calorie foods.

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      It’s multiple factors. There is the cheap, ultra processed foods, but also when a doctor tells you to lose weight, they’re likely to tell you to go on a diet and exercise, but without giving advice on what types of diet and exercise are most helpful. Even if they do refer you to a nutritionist, insurance likely won’t cover it. Add misinformation and a culture of blaming people for their bad health to that mix and you end up with a recipe for disaster.

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        I mean, not really, in the grand scheme of things it’s mainly being fat and unhealthy, as well as cancer. By a long shot.

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        I’m one of the only thin people I ever see in the doctor’s office. That’s not snark, that’s my observation.

        The remaining thin people are elderly. I’ll let everyone ponder that last for a few.

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          What I’m getting from your comment is there are multiple thin people, including you who is not elderly, at the doctor’s office. Thus proving my point…

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            How about this: Almost every human in the waiting room is fat excepting me and the truly elderly. There are rare exceptions, but fatties are the rule. Blunt enough?

            Wasn’t trying to be too blunt, but this as well: I have rarely seen a fit adult in a foot cast. The only exception to fat people in casts are kids who are obviously athletes. Gravity is real.

            Old preacher man in South Chicago was bullshitting with me while I installed his satellite dish:

            “Shalafi, let me ask you somethin’. You know the saying, ‘little old man’ or ‘little old lady’? Why you think that is? Put another way, you ever know a man or woman in their 80s that was exceptionally tall or fat? Why you think that is?”

            This wasn’t a lead-up to “god made us this way” or some moralistic horseshit, but it was a great conversation and much food for thought. He made me coffee and served me cookies. Wish I could visit him again.

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      How come there is a drug on the market that seemingly cures obesity but Healthcare plans do not cover it?

      Coincidence?

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      And a culture of gluttony around team sports. The ads are always in this order: pizza, fried chicken, burgers, pepcid AC, pepto bismol. The only diet in the world you have to drug yourself to eat.

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    Wishful thinking, in the Serbian- Croatian war they were drafting 60 year olds. Russia has dropped any medical exemptions.

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      Nahh, they’d have to be drafting 60 y/os by the time they got to me. Honestly ill just be impressed i held out that long.

      Unless you foresee them instituting the draft tomorrow.

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      Russia’s strategy has been to throw meat at the front until Ukraine runs out of bullets resulting in over a MILLION killed or wounded. The US had around 60,000 total casualties across the entire GWOT, with the vast majority just being wounded.

      The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future. That doesn’t rule out the possibility trump does it for the hell of it, but at the same time I’m pretty sure the Republicans would impeach him themselves if he did that.

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        The point being I don’t think the military will need a draft anytime in the future.

        US military has a record number of recruits because it’s the only way to get an education and healthcare.

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      eh, in the Netherlands you can get drafted until 45. at least there’s no mandatory duty nowadays… yet.

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    No one thinks there would be a draft. But 40 isn’t a cut off, nor would weight excuse you. The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.

    (Also war has changed, so maybe 100 Vietnams at once)

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      The U.S. military has enough members to fight in 10 Vietnams at once.

      And loose 10 Vietnams at once.

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        If you think the U.S. lost Vietnam, you are mistaken. The U.S. never tried to occupy Vietnam nor would, it’s racism would never want it. Vietnam was a political tool with 16:1 death tolls. And the 16 wasn’t the U.S.

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          The outcome of war isn’t determined by leaderboards. Are you that shallow a thinker? The US wasn’t trying to maintain a client state? They went in there to do what exactly? For fun? For shitties and giggies?

          Turn off of Call of Battledudy™ brainrot and get a an education, jesus christ…

          Its pretty damning of the state of things to see someone shilling this in 2025 and on here of all places.

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          The US just kidnapped a sitting leader and made an absolute joke of Russian AA again.

          Folks to this day still can’t separate the military and nation building.

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            I don’t think a compromised pre-negotiated operation where one side bribed the other to pull it’s punches is an accurate way to assess military capability.

            Sorry military fetishists but “Operation Forgetepstienfiles” wasn’t impressive on any level.

            Well actually it might be impressive that the US military managed to fly a formation of helicopters more than a hundred miles without crashing half of them. Bravo…

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      The average age of a Ukrainian soldier in 2023 was 45, and probably hasn’t improved. And I also expect there are plenty of men in their 50s and 60s in various roles.

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        Seen interviews from the other side from lonely old men who haven’t been drafted but wanted to sell their lives to provide monetary help for their younger relatives, pay for school neccessities for their grandchildren etc, since they’ve already had the best of their time on the earth and are open to give something back. Without going an inch deeper into what they are signing up to do, that’s one kind of motivation that can put amateur elders into trenches in the context of a foreign country war. Had none relatives doing that, thankfully, but seen the same pattern with my gramps in their last years, and can imagine a future orphan-crushing-machine headline of some Jonh H. Lawnmover going into another war because their daughter can’t pay a hospital bill after a short stay if I assume the same mentality exists in the US in spite of borders.

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    “Next thing you know you’ve got Uncle Sam’s ass askin’
    To join the army or what you’ll do for their Navy
    You just a baby
    Gettin’ recruited at eighteen
    You’re on a plane now
    Eating their food and their baked beans
    I’m 28
    They gonna take you 'fore they take me”

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    When Nazi Germany decided to declare war on the whole world, their leaders remarked that some of the fighters they were forced to use were “old meat” and “green vegetables”. (So-called “casserole” units.)

    It’s one thing to think you’re invincible and quite another to commit acts of state-sponsored terrorism and war in the belief that you’re untouchable, but if there’s anyone in the world who seems willing to find the breaking point, it appears to be Donald.

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    A lot of us elder millennials are scared for our kids. I’d rather go in his place . If it comes to that

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    Millennials spent our time terrified of a draft 10-20 years ago. Gen Z, welcome to the “anti war for my own self preservation” club, we [millennials] really did try to keep you out of it

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    Still gets drafted…

    …After the administration takes away healthcare for service people.