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I don’t trust proton either
The company could flip any time but for now their products are pretty good as a google alternative. I use the calendar, mail, cloud, contacts and vpn app and have zero complaints. Plus they couldn’t access any of my data if they wanted to.
they couldn’t access any of my data if they wanted to.
I am not so sure that’s true
The thing is, it’s not true about any E2E encryption where all parts of the codebase are controlled by the company.
It could be as simple as updating their website to send your password to them in plain text while logging in, now the encryption is useless as they would have your password.
Do you want bitcoin? They offer that! Go get it, crypto bro.
Don’t tell me you shop at Aldi unless you have purchased ALL of their products!
Don’t you tell me how to shop the aisle of shame
Who do you trust?
riseup
Both aren’t really private. Both is a for-profit company claiming it to be private.
Proton is a non-profit.
For-profit company and private are not mutually exclusive though. Mullvad VPN for example is
as mucha for-profit companyasunlike proton which is nonprofit, and arguably also one of the most private VPN services available.Proton is not a for profit.
It’s hilarious that OP thought going full in o proton is the other end of the “I love privacy” spectrum. How the fuck are you here on lemmy and that uneducated and ignorant on all this? These are two people a couple of steps away from each other on one end, not even close to what the meme actually is. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was rage bait, because it’s dumb enough to be that. Or a proton shill, which definitely exists here.
This was posted by Proton on Proton subreddit, so yeah, it’s an ad.
No matter who someone is, don’t give them all of your personal property.
I use Protonmail from Proton. That’s it.
How do you manage to keep your PGP keys locally with Protonmail?
I spent a couple hours setting up my accounts and keys and syncing them across devices so that I could access my secure email from any of them, importing them into K9 and thunderbird and publishing my public keys to a keyserver. Once I verified it was all working I realised that no one else I know uses PGP with email and it was a giant waste of time
IIRC Proton doesn’t offer any access to their mail server using standard protocols (POP3, IMAP)…
Sussy
Proton has become a problem for privacy
Something I missed?
I want another person with neck beard disgusted by both of them using Tor, I2P, Qubes, and GrapheneOS
I just wish we could find each other irl. I’m the tin foil privacy nerd everywhere I go.
We’re all too private for that lol
Fucking hoisted by our own petards.
One day account with only one post, from someone who probably never hosted mails 😂
ah yes. misoginy.
I’ve seen this meme several times where she is the one with the actual detailed take and he is the one with the simple take.
It’s not that deep.
I don’t think they were calling the meme template misogynistic
Right, they’re calling this meme misogynistic, because it has the woman having a bad opinion?
The original statement is just as stupid whether they’re talking about the template or the instance.
I interpreted it as them thinking this use of the template is mysoginistic, because it implies that women are dumb and not privacy conscious. The typical posture of “you are not REALLY privacy focused, you are a woman, how could you be, women don’t know”.
I was saying that I’ve seen the “dumb person” side switch enough times to be able to not infer that from the meme. I mean, you have to pick one of the two as the simplist one right?
I might be wrong if OP always slots women in their memes as the dumb one, I didn’t check. But in this meme’s case, I doubt most people would take the negative interpretation mentioned above. That was my point.
Ah yes, the Galbrush problem; in which designing something and then swapping a character’s gender suddenly makes it a gender commentary.
Both stupid
Real privacy starts when you check app permissions and stop giving flashlight apps your location.
What is that cat-owl thing for?
That’s Luma, Proton’s LLM chatbot.
Well it’s the first non-butthole LLM logo I’ve seen.
It was the only app icon with the slightest hint of character. Absolutely a bummer that it’s slop.
Eh it’s functional and a tool. It unlike other LLMs isn’t being shoved forward as a slop creator. It’s just another tool in a box.
LLMs are extremely useful for a small number of things and having it as a tool is useful.
Frankly if LLMs were like lumo instead of chatgpt people wouldn’t be calling them slop. Cause they wouldn’t be shitting out slop and being shoved in our faces.
A tool should exist. And it should sit there and be ignorable till needed. And fucking nothing else. Which is exactly what lumo is.
Aka the only actually fucking half way decent LLM so far.
Mistral also has a cat’s head as a logo (“chat” is french for cat, hence the pun).
I guess if you make an LLM, you can only choose between a cat’s head and a cat’s butthole, maybe we should try another part somedayAt least a cat’s butthole is being honest about what it produces.
We all know privacy is purple, we just can’t agree on the exact shade.
Amateurs, I bet neither of them even knows about Qubes OS
The joke is on you here. Proton is a locked-in CIA honeypot and everybody knows it.
Any evidence to this?
Source: Trust me bro
Coming from an Agent I’ll trust it
We’re actually called officers
I trust you bro
Trust you too
If they would truly care about privacy they would promote open protocols, auditable code and encourage users to hold their own keys, instead of storing the keys of their users and shipping their code dynamically via JavaScript.
Their entire technology stack is built in a way to be able to target individual users.
That is not answering the question.
If there would be hard evidence they would be out of business already, so obviously no.
