There is a reason quartebacks don’t return kicks and linebackers dont play wide receiver. They followed their natural genetic build and skillset to become the best at what they are built to do.
Samsung has been a fuckin train wreck with every single piece of fuckin software they touch. They used to make amazing hardware products and I was their #1 fan 20 years ago. Then they started embedding software in every cunthole they can shove their tiny dicks into.
First I stopped buying their TV because the volume button on the remotes hat an embedded feature that when pressed down/in instead of up or down (like the sticks on video game contorll3rs) it backed you out of fuckin everything and launched the fuckin atrocious built in samsung broadcasted tv. Signed into hulu/netflix/disney/xbox/fuck even if your just listening to music and the tv is on sleep mode… NOPE FUCK YOU AND FUCK WHATEVER YOU ARE DOING WERE SIGNING YOU OUT OF FUCKIN EVERYTHING AND BUTTFUCKING OUR BROADCAST SERVICE OF CHANNELS CABLE COMPANIES CANT EVEN MAKE A DIME FROM. Not cable, not anything you plug in or choose. No it takes you to a tv service which broadcasts only shows that noone will pay to watch.
Then it was laptops but i dont remember why it might of just been residual pissed off-ness from the TV.
Now about to be my fuckin ZFold-5 that AGAIN is the best piece of mobile hardware ive ever owned. Indestructible, blazing fast processing power that is only slower than my blazing fast typing speed with full qwerty keyboards like the good Ole cellphone days, beautiful display, beautiful cameras. It really is my favorite thing that someone else has ever ruined.
They just facefuck shitty software onto of shitty software into everything they can. I MEAN PERFECT EXAMPLE AND TIME TO STOP WAS WHEN EVERYONE SAID FUCK YOU TO THEM MAKING FUCKBOOK A BUILT IN APP. Fuck samsung right in their fucking fuck hole.
Wow, I can really feel the emotion, all that rage.
I once saw someone get an ad for the new phone as a notification on their current one. They had never had a notification from Samsung like that before. At that point I knew they would build in advertising for all their other products in to the products.
I have never bought a Samsung device since. Some people I know live them, but it put me off so much.
Your post kind of reminds me of this. (YT link fwiw)
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I had an A5 a while back and samsung didn’t make me hate them so the next phone I got was an s10. On that phone, they decided that they needed to dedicate a physical button to their fucking virtual assistant bixby. It was pretty obvious to me that these virtual assistants were mostly actually data vacuums, wanting to integrate into every aspect of your life so they can access better data on all those aspects.
Every single time it opened that fucking thing, it was unintentional. It wasn’t as annoying as your TV, since I bet the phone was way faster and had enough memory to not have to discard whatever else you were doing just to open its app, but it exemplifies how I see samsung today. Hardware had great specs but the software made it annoying by trying to lock everything in to their ecosystem without a hard lock like apple. Even MS had ways of disabling the windows button (which used to have a high chance of crashing a game if you accidentally hit it).
Now tell us how you really feel… actually, maybe don’t. :) (so you don’t get banned. Lol)
This, normally, is where I Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssstaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrttttttttttt inhaling deeply, while glaring maniacally down my nose at my audience of toddler aged nieces and nephews all taking cover from th3 eruption they knows coming🤓🤯🤠🫤😨🥹😱
But naaaaaaaa this is the waaay more laid mat me who only twitches their eyelids while grinding my teeth when someone tells me to simmer down🤣
Edit: seeeeeeeee i was guna Edit the typos out of my reply but I decided fuck it, not laid back me, no way ill tell you. So now my toilet seat is covered in pee cuz this was a two handed edit on the zfold’s big qwerty keyboards while playing piss accuracy by ear.
I do look forward to the day that I can have a phone that unfolds into a tablet size. I have two devices because my old ass has trouble reading and typing on a phone. But that is going to take an extra dimension of folding.
I agree with what you said outside of their flagship smartphones. My Fold3 was fantastic all the up till the point I traded it in for a Fold6 so if you don’t mind, could you explain what they did to your Fold5 because I don’t see any example mentioned of how they managed to ruin it over time?
I’m a pretty big fan of using fuck, but holy fuck, that was a lot. I wonder why you feel that passionately about it?
I deleted my Samsung account when an update about 6 months ago came along that basically wanted ALL your personal data so you could use AI for photo search, etc. Then I found out about all the other minor things they insist you have an account to use. So, yeah, Fuck Samsung! Now I need to find a phone I can live with to replace it when it stops working.
I took the jump and installed GrapheneOS on my Pixel 9 this weekend. Easiest alternate OS load I’ve ever done, didn’t even need to see a command line. (I’ve put LineageOS on many a phone and GrapheneOS’s web-based installer is amazing).
Loving it so far. I have three profiles, the main ‘Owner’ with NO google services/app store at all; and two more ‘Personal’ and ‘Work’ profiles that have Google stuff that I alone chose to install.
Amazingly GrapheneOS even lets you deny Google App Store itself permissions to install from untrusted sources (in this case, Google App Store itself) – I was suprised to see installing just App Store triggered attempts to then load: My Pixel, Google Photos, Fitbit(!!? WTF), and a few others, without any confirmation first. Was able to shut that shit down immediately. (I had never, ever installed Fitbit on my previous phones, so there’s no excuse to install it “from my previous device” or whatever…)
I hope GrapheneOS spreads to other phone models. And I’m sure Google has a team planning on how to strangle it before it does…
How does it deal with banking apps? What about camera apps? How is the camera workings with other camera apps?
All my bank apps work, I have the stock pixel camera app and it works perfectly
Chase is the only bank app that hasn’t worked for me on GOS. Also using the stock pixel camera app.
I haven’t yet tried – planning to do that in the next day or so when I get the time.
Others already replied with promising results, I sure hope they work for me as well (Scotiabank in Canada is particularly annoying in this respect in my experience, with LineageOS I had to use Magisk and define stealth rules specifically for their banking app).
Edit: As for camera, I’ve only tried the GrapheneOS builtin/default camera app. It’s pretty basic, but I should see if I can get the Pixel9 official camera app on there, it would be nicer to use if possible but the basic one is probably good enough for my purposes.
80% of them works. rest has real devs. they should have a bank and government app list in their forums.
How about intune?
Forgive me but what is intune? I did a quick search and just found some Microsoft endpoint protection thingie – there is mention of a Managed Google Play but I have no idea what that would mean.
I think the user is referring to the fact that MS Intune is famously very cautious about verifying the device it is running on.
Many people need to use Intune on their device, to get access to work apps (eg, Teams and Outlook). If you have a rooted device, or run a non-stock OS, then Intune will fail the validation and prevent you from signing into your work accounts.
This is the reason I don’t currently use a rooted or alternative android on my primary smartphone.
Is it just not in the cards to request a separate device for work, I know I would tell my employer that I cannot guarantee that my personal device will meet their expectations.
Then I have to carry two devices. I just have a custom phone and a stock tablet, this works out ok. Except the stock tablet is a Samsung and the software is super annoying
Yes. I can request a phone from work to use, but that’s lots of work, business justification, need to submit monthly expense reports for calls, and report data usage. Plus I’d need then to carry around two phones. There are lots of people at my work who do that. I don’t want the hastle.
Ah. That’s nasty, what a pain.
Samsung has been accused of shipping budget Galaxy A and M series smartphones with pre-installed spyware that users can’t easily remove.
The software in question, AppCloud, developed by the mobile analytics firm IronSource, has been embedded in devices sold primarily in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region.
So these are cheap phones mostly being sold in the Middle East.
This is so gross.
If it works in non-google hardware I’ll switch, I’m not giving alphabet my money willingly
I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel, again, is pushing for this :
The software in question, AppCloud, developed by the mobile analytics firm IronSource, has been embedded in devices sold primarily in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region.
Again?
Amongst other things, Israel, if you recall, made some cell phones to explode, so too kill people they don’t like. Or maybe there was something called “Pegasus” that went something like that also ? I would have to do some search to be sure.
I guess many foreign powers are interested in mass surveillance of unstable regions and low budget phones are a good way to do it. People there need phones and don’t have many options, or don’t care because there are worse problems.
No Name Chinese brand is “low budget” in those regions, not Samsung.
Samsung has been accused of shipping budget Galaxy A and M series smartphones with pre-installed spyware that users can’t easily remove.
Read the rest of the article.
They’re talking about “affordable Samsung models”.
“Budget” for a Samsung, not “budget” for a smartphone on that region and definitelly not “low budged”.
Want to check what “low budged” means for a smartphone in unstable (read: poor) regions, go to to AliExpress and search for “cheap smartphone”.
Huh, Unity owns IronSource.
Of course. It’s a zionist company.
Great quote. It’s laughable how this bullshit article dances around this.
First sentence:
Samsung has been accused of shipping budget Galaxy A and M series smartphones with pre-installed spyware that users can’t easily remove.
So unremovable in the sense that it can be removed.
also from the article:
Even more concerning, attempts to uninstall it often fail due to its deep integration into Samsung’s One UI operating system.
Reports indicate the app reactivates automatically following software updates or factory resets, making it virtually unremovable for average users.
but i do agree that “virtually unremovable” and “unremovable” are two very different things. and im not even sure i would classify this as “virtually unremovable”
A new type of Android spyware that requires a password for uninstallation has been identified, making it increasingly difficult for victims to remove the malicious software from their devices.
The first sentence in the link that you linked.
So… you’re technically right. It can be removed.
But not by the customer, unless they have an uncle who works at Samsung.
Don’t buy any Samsung devices, got it.
But what options are there for non tech savvy people. Apple isn’t any better.
Fairphone or a Google Pixle (optional GraphenOS, ive had non-tech people install it with no issues)
Yah, thats why you slap GraphenOS on it before it leaves the lot. All phones spy on you of you dont gut the OS, because there is nothing left that hasent been enshitified.
Right now, GraphenOS requires a pixle due to hardware limitations. Some time next year they are planning on testing Snapdragon support which will greatly expand the number of phones that can use it.
I’ve got a Motorola, it probably still has spyware but at least it’s cheap, durable, and has a decent battery.
Pixels are just bad hardware. 3 models got software updates that destroy battery life and more issues. No DAC ever worked properly on my 6a. They did gave me $100 for replacing the battery but I bought an s25. The Samsung has great hardware, software is less good than the pixel.
I will never buy another Samsung phone or tablet. I was done the moment I started getting notification ads from the Samsung store that I cannot disable.
This is me. As I write to you from my Graphene Pixel 9. My first non Samsung phone since the S3. The S22 unwanted ads were just too much. (and apparently it’s all worse now) You could disable them, but you had to re disable after every update. The second I found a good deal on a pixel I jumped.
This happened to me with my Xiaomi, I get notification ads from Xiaomi GetApp, their own app store. They even force open overriding google play when I press update on a third party app. I tried to block and force stop but they still pop up. I got so fed up I blocked them from using data and wifi; that did the trick.
I used to only buy Samsung phones.
Now they’re the only phone I’ve ever returned. Never touching their shit again.
You can mostly disable them. Delete your Samsung account, don’t agree to their terms of service besides the most basic one or two that is required. No defense of Samsung, just what I did to deny them as much as I could of my information until I replace this phone and never buy Samsung again.
When my Graphene’d Pixel 7 goes out of support I’m switching to something Linux based even if I have to get a Raspberry Pi and a case and carry around a brick. My handbag’s big enough.
I found this. Its a Raspberry Pi in a brick case with a screen and a 4G modem.
Kinda funny that for all the downsides, the one that made me say oof was resistive touch.
Resistive pretty much requires a stylus to be usable with any accuracy. It’s like going back to '90s era PDAs.
Furi’s FLX1s seems like a valid alternative.
Zionist Spyware
Funny how they never mention where this comes from… The bullshit propaganda is strong in this article.
Its always the Zionists they see land, life, freedom, and people as something to be bought and sold.
The software in question, AppCloud, developed by the mobile analytics firm IronSource, has been embedded in devices sold primarily in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region.
So if you’re not in the Middle East. You’re good. Still not going to buy any Samsung devices.
Hello from GrapheneOS 👋
Tech savvy Lemmings don’t need SwapMyOS, but for more non-technical folk, it’s there just in case by demand.
AMA.
I hate galaxy phones, they’re build quality is so shitty and the prices are higher than a google pixel. Now they come with Israeli spyware? What other phones have spyware that I should know about?
I can’t imagine the pixel is much better. I think the question you have should be inverted. What doesn’t have spyware…
I believe the FairPhone is pretty solid.
Not as good, but Apple stuff is a big step up from Google and Samsung stuff wrt spying.
How is it on easy of use for the non-techies? And compatability of apps?
I have yet to purchase a Samsung mobile phone and I will do my best to keep it that way.
I made the mistake one time. Idk why people speak so highly of them. What is wrong with them?
It got forced updates at Random hours of the day with no even pretend consent of “Not right now. I’m literally on a phone call”. All the update was to install Candy crush or Facebook. Again
I literally lost out on a job because it shut off to update while I was on a phone interview. Called back and the guy was rude af.
Did you get the phone from a carrier? I’ve had 2 Samsung’s both bought unlocked from samsung and those come with no bloatware and for years I never had anything like that happen. My wife has an S23 from TMobile and has lots of unremovable apps and bloat.
I’ve heard that, and I did, but I’ve a google now from a carrier, and I do not have this issue on my google device. Not one update to put crap on it so far. Fingers crossed
It can’t just be a carrier issue.
It’s not only a carrier issue but it is an issue only with Samsung’s bought through carriers. Samsung obviously allows that or subsidizes them somehow. AFAIK with Samsung and carrier branded devices they have their own update schedules as well that is separate than just updates from Samsung.
Is anyone really surprised one of the biggest companies in occupied korea would do this??
It is a fucking tankie invasion recently.
Yes, the premier communist instance, what’s yer problem with it?
Please fill in the blanks:
- China’s socioeconomic model is _____.
- In the Russia—Ukraine war, Russia is _____.
- _____ Korea is the more prosperous of the two.
“More prosperous” means absolutely nothing historically or ethically, or worse it typically means “aligned with imperialist hegemons”.
I appreciate your honesty in admitting that you consider human well-being to be irrelevant!
What a pointlessly hostile and asshole way to make your point! Did it feel good? I’ll try to refrain from doing the same.
What “prosperity” means in this context is typically just amassed wealth and GDP, which says nothing about how well the population is actually doing.
Under which definition of prosperity (whether that being the well-being of the population or “alignment with imperial powers”) is North Korea doing better?
You made it sound like the answer depends on the definition of “prosperity” so I’m wondering under which definition the answer would be different.
“Neither” is also an acceptable answer.
Are you implying that north Korea is good?
I have seen people from .ml defending N. Korea while saying S. Korea are the bad guys. They think the state of affairs in N. Korea is just western propaganda and it’s actually a communist utopia there. Some seem really unhinged with their theories.
Why don’t they go there as a tourist then lool
I was thinking more along the lines of going there as an immigrant. LOL!
*Edit: typo
The lack of actual communists y’all follow.
Last I checked north Korea hadn’t invaded
Nomen est omen
We need new OEM’s made. Seriously we can’t keep going like this. Any other good alternatives?
Hey I’m from middle east and yes I know about this, ironSource is an Israeli company, I personally don’t mind where its from but the fact that it collects user data is not so nice. I use Galaxy A53 and I slapped a GSI on it, I am using a degoogled version of android 16 and away from Samsung stuff been daily driving it for 5 months now works great, calls working, SMS works, camera works, NFC works, bank apps do not work. Thats it
