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  • Let’s not think of all the infrastructure to get what they sell to the people who buy it or that gets the stuff you buy to you. And if your response is, “Well, that’s only 100 miles to the nearest store/city/hospital,” that completely ignores how the stuff got there so you could pick it up.

    Unless your lifestyle is such that you only have to buy or sell things a few times per year to survive, you’re relying on that national/global infrastructure to enjoy your rugged, individualistic lifestyle.








  • Life expectancy at 25 hasn’t changed dramatically in the last 2000 years, less than 10 years in most parts of the world. Life expectancy at birth has improved dramatically, and that isn’t doing much for me, Putin, or Xi at this point. Certainly, the improved healthcare afforded to Putin and Xi is going to help their life expectancy more than the average. All that said, a lot of improvements have happened in the last couple centuries, mostly based on our knowledge. Sure, exponential growth isn’t going to happen forever, not even in gaining knowledge, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it happen in biology for the next century. If it does, extending life expectancy at birth to 150 could be quite conservative.



  • I wasn’t setting an upper limit. There is good evidence we are closing in on some of the causes of the symptoms of aging, as well as gaining evidence that dealing with the symptoms may reduce the effects of aging. If we only have those basic tools in the next 100 years, I could see lifespans being pushed to 150 to 200 for the typical person. If we can also deal with the lesser regenerative capability of the brain, I could see people living for centuries. As you said in other comments, there are a lot of interconnected pieces, and just fixing one or some of them won’t be as useful as fixing all of them, which really takes transplants off the table as a general solution, but also means we may see limited increases in life span rather than getting past the tipping point of life extension research outpacing the gain it gives you, eg., extending lifespans more than one year per year.



  • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.cato196@lemmy.blahaj.zonereminder rule
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    21 days ago

    Alright, and now you’ve dehumanized them. Now what? How do you solve the problem that is Nazis? Billionaires? Landlords? Omnivores? Breeders? You agree some or all of these aren’t really human, right? So what’s off the table for you with respect to your inhuman group of choice? What’s the limit for others who, like you, think one or all of these groups are inhuman? And what do you think the end point is? Remember, genocide was the Final Solution, not the First Solution.


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    21 days ago

    No one really deserves to die. Sometimes that’s the only option to stop them from harming others, or we have no capability to protect society from them in a reasonable manner. The former is usually in situations that qualify as self defense or the defense of others, the latter is more often a financial issue more dependent on the level of civilization and I would say doesn’t apply to most of the world at this point in time.

    There is never a reasonable need to kill another person unless that is the only option to stop them from causing harm to others. Anything else is just lazy and/or inhumane thinking.


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    21 days ago

    The Measure of a Man does a far better job of going into this than I can, but suffice to say, what package someone is wrapped in shouldn’t be the arbiter of what qualifies as a person. Does this apply to AI in its current form? I’d say no, but does it apply to whales, octopuses, pigs, possible aliens, possible AI implementations in the future? That’s a little trickier.