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    You have a statue of MLK because he deserved it.

    You should not get a statue for Kirk for the same reason that there is no statue of Joseph Göbbels in Berlin.

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    Remember kids, fascists need a martyr & will happily make their own if needed.

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    In what universe is Charlie Kirk at all comparable to MLK?

    Release the rest of the Epstein files. Release the Yahoo emails. Why is there a drawing of Epstein grooming children allegedly at Mar a Lago?

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      He’s not, and they know it. Pretending he’s a martyr for as long as they can is rhetorically useful to them.

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      He isn’t and everyone knows it. It’s what used to be trolling except it has now become a core principle and they are a full two or three generations into believing their own bullshit. It’s like that guy who loves banter until you hit him with a slapper and it’s a “he’s gonna fight you in the parking lot” kind of situation but he called security and told them threats had been made and the cops are getting involved but it’s ok because a few days later he got stabbed 7 times in Lovejoy NY for talking shit in a pool game and all was right with the world.

      Sorry I got lost on that one but you get the point.

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      They both got shot, apparently, is the link. He was their guy, and he got shot. Therefore, he’s just like MLK! /s

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      In what universe is Charlie Kirk at all comparable to MLK?

      They’re both famous guys who were in the news for things they said.

      Release the rest of the Epstein files.

      Didn’t we get a big data dump that journalists are actively sifting through? FFS, the UK ambassador to the US just got sacked yesterday over the latest news.

      At least take a minute to chew and swallow before you ask for another bite.

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        They’re both famous guys who were in the news for things they said.

        Come on, dude, you that’s dishonest. Were Gandhi and Hitler the same person?

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        We got a Google Drive dump of data after thousands of fbi agents spent months redacting trumps name

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            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-08-01/epstein-files-trump-s-name-was-redacted-by-the-fbi

            That included a mountain of material accumulated by the FBI over nearly two decades, including grand jury testimony, prosecutors’ case files, as well as tens of thousands of pages of the bureau’s own investigative files on Epstein. It was a herculean task that involved as many as 1,000 FBI agents and other personnel pulling all-nighters while poring through more than 100,000 documents, according to a July letter from Senator Dick Durbin to Bondi.

            In preparation for potential public release, the documents then went to a unit of FOIA officers who applied redactions in accordance with the nine exemptions. The people familiar with the matter said that Trump’s name, along with other high-profile individuals, was blacked

            And while that one is new

            Instead, Bondi’s big Epstein files party was a bust. It turned out the documents she called declassified, which included pages from Epstein’s infamous “black book,” had been previously released, most recently during the criminal trial of Ghislaine Maxwell four years earlier.

            Their latest release also was almost entirely published info.

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    What has Charlie Kirk actually accomplished, though? Besides spreading hatred and bigotry, that is?

    He’s like the anti-MLK. Everything he stood for is the worst that conservatism has to offer.

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        I mean, yes though. He was a huge influence on the reason the US is the way it is now and a big reason why so many young men think the way they do and elected the people they did.

        He accomplished a pretty huge amount of shit. Just not good shit.

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          I’ve heard some say “it’s better for someone to get into politics and disagree with me than to be apathetic”

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            On shit like tax burden and foreign policy not on who counts as a human being.

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                By letting horrible bigots have power, by not having actual protections against bad-faith actors, by tolerating hateful rhetoric despite the obvious cost to society.

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      I’ll be honest, outside of Reddit/Lemmy I know exactly nothing about him. I just always assumed he was yet another far-right extremist podcaster. Like Andrew Tate, but allowed to be in the US. Side note, it took me forever to figure out who Andrew Tate was, because I think people thought I was trolling when I asked “who is this dork?”.

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    Kirk organised but did not attend the so-called “Stop the Steal” protests after Trump lost the 2020 election and helped coordinate buses for the 6 January 2021 rally led by Trump near the White House, where the outgoing Republican president urged the crowd to “fight, fight, fight” to overturn his defeat by Joe Biden.

    Putting a monument for this turd in the capital he tried to overthrow is just perfectly republican. These people are going to milk this guys death for the next dozen years at least.

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      Conservative, not Republican. Wilson, a Democrat and tied with Jackson for worst president ever, though Trump is working towards that but I digress. Wilson is responsible for authoring Southern Revisionist History, the refounding of the KKK, and all those Confederate statues that we finally started tearing down.