• floofloof@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    158
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Wow, autism turns out to be not only bad but also women’s fault. Amazing what an investigation under the impartial leadership of misogynist neo-Nazis can discover.

  • TipRing@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    136
    ·
    2 months ago

    Well as long as we can blame women, that’s what’s really important. Remember moms, if your child is neurodivergent it’s entirely your fault you irresponsible hag.

    • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      34
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      you irresponsible hag.

      This sounds like satire, as though this isn’t exactly what these people actually think.

      100 years ago, when these people think was the ‘golden age’, women were actually blamed for their children’s issues. They blamed nearly everything on women. Yeah, let’s go back to that: MAGA women, how does that sound to you? Do you think you’re one of the good ones?

      Let’s bring back lobotomies for women who have too many opinions, too. The world was better when only men were allowed to have opinions and women were the root of all evil, like the bible says.

        • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          19
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Oh god. I’d never heard of that. That was a thing, started by an asshole psychologist in the 1940s. Legit psychopathic mentality, wtf.

          e: so the jist is that your kid is autistic because you suck at being a parent and are too ‘cold’. Imagine your’re doing everything you can, but the entire medical system is telling you it’s your fault for not caring enough. That’s the ultimate gaslighting. Because if you cared enough, your kid wouldn’t be this way.

          e2: and reading more, they took kids away on this grounds. I feel so horrible for those parents. You had no recourse at all. You were doing your best, and your child had a medical issue, but based on the social symptoms of your child you were a ‘refrigerator mother’ so your kid was put in an orphanage. Wtf.

            • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              2 months ago

              I guess they’re ‘cured’, if you mean ‘dead and buried in mass unmarked graves’. e: they don’t have those symptoms anymore.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    48
    ·
    2 months ago

    So something so ludicrously common that it basically can’t be proved. Super.

    Did you know that 97% of people killed in car accidents clean their teeth on a regular basis? I think we need to look into that.

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 months ago

        Oddly I don’t think that can be a full 100% due to infant death during or shortly after birth.

          • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 months ago

            The host is a great description, going to have to start using that… well maybe not.

            • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              2 months ago

              The way it lands would probably depend on context, including who the speaker is. Having a uterus and calling yourself a “potential host” is vastly different from someone else, for example RFK Jr, using the term to refer to others. One is a deliberate subversion of the expectation that anyone with a uterus is supposed to be pro “having babies.” The other can be straight-up dehumanization (depending on how it’s used.)

              Being on the internet, where the sex and gender of a speaker aren’t always obvious, you’re probably making a wise choice by avoiding the term.

              With all that said, as a uterus-haver, I still laughed when I read it. So… ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

              • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 months ago

                I for some reason though of it being used in the worst video dating reel. Think “lowered expectations” but with some modern “trad wife” wanting asshat.

                “Looking for an available female for the purpose of becoming the host of my son”

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      2 months ago

      it basically can’t be proved.

      Due to a massive dip in Tylenol sales from the tainted bottles scandal in 1982, Kenvue can easily prove autism rates were not affected.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      100% of people exposed to dihydrogen monoxide eventually die, and sometimes develop an array of diseases and disorders before their inevitable death.

    • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Is there only one place that produces all the acetaminophen? He hasn’t named any brands directly that I’m aware but i don’t fallow that weirdo very closely. If he names a big pharm brand directly you know it’s some real market manipulation, right?

    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      61
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Because the anti-vax people who have autistic kids hate their children. They hate that they’re not perfect and “normal”. And they hate that they have to deal with a child that requires more care than other people’s children do.

      I think we should make banners and say it out loud to every single person who can hear.

      #Anti-vaxxers HATE autistic children

      #Especially if that autistic child is their own.

          • mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            She was oxygen deprived at birth because the doctor was running late and the nurses wouldn’t let her mother push until he got there. By the sounds of it she had some minor learning disabilities and possibly some impulse control issues as a result. Because that allegedly resulted in her being somewhat promiscuous, her asshole father had her lobotomized.

            I suppose if one really wanted to play armchair psychiatrist, you could argue that the failures of medical science of the time may have contributed to him having a negative view of modern medicine as a whole. Not a defense of the rat bastard, just mildly interesting to think about.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        Yep, this is precisely it.

        I really seriously believe that autistic/neurodiverse people and especially kids should be viewed as a kind of class of person that is at high risk of being discriminated against, hate crimed, targetted by state violence.

        Hans Apsberger was a fucking Nazi who … literally coined the term autism and yes, he is the guy apsbergers is/was named after… and yes, he directly orchestrated the deaths of ‘mentally disabled’ children.

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-truth-about-hans-aspergers-nazi-collusion/

        They’re gonna do another genocide, based on more junk science, just like the OG Nazis.

        RFK Jr has already said he wants to take everyone on any kind of prescription psychiatric medication, move them to forced labor farms, house them in bunkhouses, remove their phones, all contact with the outside world, and also make them all quit their meds cold turkey.

        https://slate.com/life/2025/06/donald-trump-rfk-jr-kennedy-health-wellness-farms.html

        This is the kind of shit you hear TrueAnon describing cults doing.

        But scaled way, way up.

        This is a recipe for causing millions of psychotic breaks, just cold turkey, unmanaged total cessation, no gradual wind downs with check ins with therapists and such, also done in basically slave labor conditions.

        Possibly also worth mentioning is RFK Jr’s aunt Rosemary.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy

        She was suffocated as a newborn for 2 hours.

        This caused her to be developmentally delayed.

        They lobotomized her (while she was awake and conscious) at age 23.

        This regressed her to the state of a 2 year old.

        She was institutionalized and largely hidden from the public for the rest of her life.

        This is literally Nazi mad scientist shit.

    • Soggy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      29
      ·
      2 months ago

      Because they can’t cope with random chance, there has to be a cause. They need a villain.

        • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          2 months ago

          Why blaming gods for random bullshit is easier on the mind? Random bird take a massive shit on my cars hood? Clearly Odin needs to reign in his ravens.

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            11
            ·
            2 months ago

            You get brought up with prosperity gospel and you think that wealth and good fortune are an indicator of holiness and piety. You internalize that shit. And since you worship what you have been told all your life is a loving god, since you do all the things your church tells you to, since you give them 10+% of your income and hate the minorities they tell you to and vote for the fascists they tell you to, you know yourself to be pious.

            Understanding that we live in a random universe with no sense of justice is fundamentally incompatible with a belief in an orderly universe governed by a just god. So when you encounter misfortune, you don’t blame God, since you see Him as infallible and perfect. You either blame yourself or start looking for someone to blame.

            Which is very useful to people seeking to manipulate hateful credulous people who are convinced of their own righteousness.

        • jj4211@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          To be on the spectrum is one thing, but low functioning autistic is just soul crushing for people to deal with. I’ve seen some siblings struggle just because their family was pretty much screwed trying to raise a low functioning autistic child. I think I’ve interacted with two such people in many years, so it’s not particularly common compared to the larger population on the spectrum.

          It’s one reason I don’t like autism as a spectrum, as there’s a world of difference that doesn’t seem right to cast one net over.

        • sramder@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          Exactly! Were going to get you on the raw gerbil-milk diet, boost your immune system and kick those nasty n-grams right out of your poor cortex :-)

          Everyones someones aspie 😎

      • Spezi@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        2 months ago

        They don’t want to fix it, they want to blame the victims for “causing it themselves”.

        • sramder@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          Uhhhhh… budddddy. Hopefully this didn’t happen to you. If it did you’re parents were kinda dicks 😔

          • Spezi@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            2 months ago

            Luckily not to me, but I know of a child that has autism where the parents were blamed by some related anti-vax parents for vaccinating their child.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 months ago

      Because right-wing parents refuse to believe they have a genetic disorder in their in-bred families.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Depends on, many want a scapegoat to punish, many want a reason to try to “fix” us, and I guess many want a reason to leave those who are in need of support without it by blaming it onto them.

  • waddle_dee@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    ·
    2 months ago

    What a fucking joke. Tylenol is literally like, the only painkiller you can take while pregnant. Our OB said only Tylenol. To attack this, that is in such broad use, is to clearly state that this study is bunk and they’re just making shit up

  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    2 months ago

    For fucks sake, someone please stop this brain-worm-demented menace. He’s gonna kill so many people.

  • Tiger666@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    2 months ago

    How far are we along with “autism is a genetic defect and we are now euthanizing defective humans for the benefit of society” are we?

    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      2 months ago

      Personally I’m expecting him to get shot, not even necessarily for being a shitstain but because he is a Kennedy. If some dumbass can try to kill Reagan to impress Jane Fonda(?) for some reason then someone will want to kill RFK Jr for the meme.

  • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    2 months ago

    I’m confused where this zeitgeist about Tylenol being bad for you is coming from. I remember working in pharmacy that taking Acetaminophen was the least reactive painkiller with the least number of long-term issues, but I’m hearing a lot more people talking about how bad it is for you.

    The studies I’ve seen have been correlative at best, and, considering that NSAIDs and opioid painkillers are far worse over time, I don’t understand the dissonance in advice that seems to be appearing.

    Is this more “seed oil” nonsense?

    • morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      2 months ago

      It’s pretty easy to overdose on Acetaminophen, Wikipedia suggests >100k a year in the us (it’s in so many OTC medication, stuff like cough syrups and the like, really easy to hit the 4g/day max dose)

      I’ll still use it, just use it responsibly.

      • Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        2 months ago

        To add to this I’ve heard professionals in my field say if acetaminophen was discovered today it would likely be a controlled substance for this reason alone. The overdose potential is too high. That always seemed like an extreme measure but i can understand it.

        • Fenderfreek@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          It’s more tightly controlled outside the US, in my experience. I think other heath agencies are quite aware of its risks

    • chaitae3@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      2 months ago

      I don’t follow this topic regularly and I can’t say anything about the mechanisms. From a superficial search I would claim that there is good evidence that Tylenol use during pregnancy can make the development of asthma in the child more likely. There is also some indication (at least one large cohort study from Icahn medical school) that it may cause delayed language development.

      That would be enough evidence for me to discourage use during pregnancy for treatment of discomfort or light pain, when safer options can be tried.

      • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        My point is that comparatively, acetaminophen is (or at least was) the safest drug for light pain.

        I haven’t seen any new categories of painkiller that would indicate that’s no longer the case, though.

        • jj4211@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          So what’s the deal with ibuprofen, naproxen, and aspirin? Seems every time the subject may come up with a doctor, they say ibuprofen to me (last time it came up was when I had to pass a kidney stone, and boy I think I could’ve used an opiate for that one time…).

          Certainly a dramatic swing from 15 years ago when having a sonewhat sore throat during a physical landed me a prescription for opiate cough syrup…

          • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            NSAIDs cause crazy increased risk of intestinal bleeding and and it inhibits the ability for the kidneys to excrete uric acid, they also increase the risk of heart attack and stroke.

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 months ago

      A lot of common over the counter drugs like Tylenol are more risky than people assume, so the idea of one having negative effects on fetal development isn’t out of left field. At the same time, not a single study pushed by this anti science ideologue can ever be trusted without corroboration by independent researchers. The risk of having a bad reaction to common medication nobody bats an eye at is often higher than the vaccines this dumbass rails against, so it’s not like a stopped clock being almost right makes up for his bullshit.

      • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        so it’s not like a stopped clock being almost right makes up for his bullshit.

        Nice try, Jessica

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      That’s the sad thing.

      The sentiment is good. MAHA pounding Big Processed Food and Big Tobacco and (to an extent) Big Pharma and such is great.

      …If only the specifics weren’t so awful.

  • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    2 months ago

    Assuming autism is “caused” by something and there is an “increase” of cases (not just diagnosis). Shouldn’t we start checking on Monsanto and the pesticides before anything else? Why are they obsessed with vaccines and medications?

    • Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people? The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases. You can’t measure anything if you don’t look for it in the first place.

      • Null User Object@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        Is there really an increase in autism or increase in awareness of neurodivergent/autistic people?

        That’s exactly what the person you’re replying to meant by…

        “increase” of cases (not just diagnosis).

        • ameancow@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          I was deeply saddened in the midst of Covid when I realized that is actually a difficult topic for people to understand. I thought people watched Sesame Street growing up, I thought they could do things like “count” or understand that different kinds of numbers mean measurements of different things.

          Nope. Most people are disconnected from anything deeper than the immediate narrative they’re fed. No matter their political affiliation or supposed values, people have just broadly turned off their capacity to reason things out.

          I had a full-on mental-health episode when I realized how bad it was. I had people in my own family who complained endlessly about having to wear masks when they went out, and immediately ripped the masks off their faces when they came inside a house or store and only wore it outdoors. I couldn’t get some people to understand what a virus is on the most abstract level.

          The lack of basic understanding how biology and other grade-school level understanding of the world works needs to be uncovered. We’re in a crisis. This level of ignorance we’ve allowed to develop will literally ruin the world. It’s already in progress.

      • aceshigh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        Not to mention if you read how people who lived before modern medicine were described, you can guess if they were autistic or add. Not to mention the ones who were very low functioning were a secret kept at home or institutionalized.

      • ameancow@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        The increase in diagnosis doesn’t necessarily mean there’s an anctual increase of cases.

        Everyone knows this but they are letting them re-write reality anyway. They did this with Covid, an actual lethal virus that killed over a million Americans. We may never know the actual death-count because of conservative administration efforts to decrease diagnosis numbers. And they were OPEN about this, and we didn’t march on DC then, so I don’t expect it’s going to get much better going forward.