I hate that evil Emperor Palpatine. That’s why I support Dedra Meero for Emperor. She’s a real firecracker that believes in the righteousness of the Empire to maintain order.
As a trans person, you can suck my girl dick. I am not a cudgel to be used by shitty libs to sheepdog votes for their nonexistent policy.
Trans rights keep being eroded, regardless of who is in power, because the Democratic Party isn’t doing anything to preserve them.
Trans rights keep being eroded, regardless of who is in power, because the Democratic Party isn’t doing anything to preserve them.
… would you like to outline where trans rights were in 2024 in comparison to where they were in 1990, and also inform me which parties were in power in the intervening years?
Dems being insufficient and Dems being backsliders are two entirely different concepts. Dems are absolutely insufficiently supportive of trans rights. Dem politicians are also the primary vehicle through which trans rights have been encoded into law.
Saying “Dem politicians” are the reason trans rights were encoded into law strips trans people of our political agency. You’re effectively saying the quiet part out loud by denying us political agency, or even a role in our own political history.
Trans rights have been fought and won over decades, long before 1990, by trans people. Often outside of traditional political, not to mention medical, avenues. The Democratic Party, as an institution, only picked up on encoding those rights into law, when there was the pressure and inertia was such that it was beneficial to their coalition to do so.
In 2024, when that coalition was proven to have collapsed, in large part because of the additude you’re taking here, trans people were some of the first to be thrown under the bus and blamed.
Saying “Dem politicians” are the reason trans rights were encoded into law strips trans people of our political agency. You’re effectively saying the quiet part out loud by denying us political agency, or even a role in our own political history.
… tell me again, who encoded trans rights into law, if not Dem politicians?
You… you do realize things that are encoded into law are, by definition, done by politicians in essentially all cases except ballot initiatives, right?
… right…?
For that matter, you do realize that many trans folk, both historically and contemporarily, have been Dem activists and politicians, precisely because the Dems have been much more ameniable to enshrining trans rights into law, and thus an easier vehicle to do so with? Would you… would you like to remind me, of the parties “Republican”, “Democrat”, and “None”, which does the only current trans Congresswoman belong to?
Trans rights have been fought and won over decades, long before 1990, by trans people. Often outside of traditional political, not to mention medical, avenues. The Democratic Party, as an institution, only picked up on encoding those rights into law, when there was the pressure and inertia was such that it was beneficial to their coalition to do so.
… yes…? That’s… that’s how democracies work…?
In 2024, when that coalition was proven to have collapsed, in large part because of the additude you’re taking here,
So when the coalition ‘collapses’, losing by the massive amount of [checks notes] 1% after millions of people who previously voted decided that abstaining out of purity politics interested them in a time of conveniently-high propaganda, it’s because… people like me wanted them to NOT abstain out of purity politics?
trans people were some of the first to be thrown under the bus and blamed.
Some Dem ghouls have tried to blame trans folk. The vast majority of Dems, even careerist ghouls, still support trans rights.
Its been over a year and people still are freaking out about this? And not the fact that the democrats have basically rolled over at every turn to trump and the GOPs demands?
The dems did not do s good job mobilizing their voter base. A bunch of people didnt like genocide. A bunch of people didnt like Biden. A bunch of people held their nose and voted for him the first time when he said he would get rid of student loans and be a one term president. He reneged on almost every single promise he made. He then committed genocide. People didnt like it. The DNC shoved him and Kamala down everyone’s throats instead of having an actual election. They’ve fucked themselves 3 cycles in a row now and then start complaining about socialists.
They were all vote blue no matter who when it was Biden or Kamala but now Mamdani won in NY and they’re all teaming up with the Republicans to stop him. Maybe thats why they keep fucking losing - they dont want to listen to their own base.
What do regular people want? Higher taxes on the rich, more affordable housing and food, Healthcare for all, and good education. All they’ve done is say well this will hurt billionaires feelings so we cant do it.
Man you keep just making a variation on the same “fuck the leftists” line over and over again.
You already had camps tbh, you’ve had them for many years now
This is such a tired narrative. You guys really want to focus on the leftists when half the country voted for an authoritarian?
Every movement has its radical fringe. Virtue signaling either your ideological purity or your solidarity with the only viable opposition are equally feeble attempts at clinging to a notion of victory in the face of total defeat.
EDIT: I wasn’t expecting this comment to generate discussion but since it did, let me elaborate on what I meant by “total defeat.” The defeat is not an electoral loss, it’s the fact that we have relinquished so much political power that all we have left is voting for one of a set of compromised politicians every few years. It’s a tired argument because it assumes that it’s possible to vote our way out of the mess we’re in, and it simply isn’t. We need to attack the point of production because it’s where the ruling class derives its power. And arguing about our sham elections is getting us nowhere.
This is such a tired narrative. You guys really want to focus on the leftists when half the country voted for an authoritarian?
Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds
see now this is doing the same room temp IQ shit as fugjesus
Not All Leftists: are anti-DNC purity non-voters
Not All Liberals: are the MLK “white moderate” type who will vote Republican if lefties are mean to them
Sure, that might be true of individuals but that phrase, or at least variants of it (ie. “The Social Democrats are The Left-Wing of Fascism”), have existed since the rise of the Nazis.
The idea being that liberal institutions will sooner do the work of fascism by punching left, rather than making common cause to fight fascism. And this meme isn’t helping that perception by punching left.
Phrases existing does not mean there is truth, just that there is an aspect that feels true, look at all the people that have adopted “hard men create good times” etc as a mantra.
I don’t think making hostile comments (saying all libs are fascists) is productive at all, and obviously individuals are not responsible for entire institutions, or even other people that share their principles but are also assholes.
This is a bad metaphor. I agree harm reduction helps, but Democrats are not owed a vote and the obsession with blaming what is apparently a small minority of voters or the sole reason Democrats lost depending what is convenient, is truly damning of liberals.
If libs put half the effort into courting leftists they do in blaming leftists perhaps they’d win. Instead a group of people who would by and left never vote for a dem anyway, didn’t vote for them.
This is the bed they made and now they want to blame everyone else for shitting their pants.
but Democrats are not owed a vote
I’m so glad you decided that Blue Circus wasn’t OWED your vote, so letting minorities be genocided is an okay consequences you’re willing to live with.
The bottom line is the left has a problem with members who choose their own moral superiority over the wellbeing of the nation and themselves.
That’s a problem that needs to be talked about.
OP admits that they would cast a vote to put trans people in camps if the situation was right. This meme is ridiculous coming from a person like that.
I feel like takes like this come from people with no long term memory. Do you remember the pro-palestinian crowd begging Kamala Harris to even pretend like she’d do something to help? And she basically told them to vote for Trump? Blame the Democratic party for choosing to be fascism-light instead of actual resistance.
Multiple people are at fault
- Republicans for being literal Nazis
- Democrats for selling their souls to AIPAC and ignoring their constituents
- Protest voters for not seeing Trump as enough of a threat
- The two party system for allowing this to happen in the first place
- Billionaires for funding a literal Nazi
- The Israeli government for waves hands
As someone who had to leave behind everything and flee the US for safety (2025 was lining up to be a damn good year dammit), I am furious at all of the above
That’s mostly fair, but “protest voters” still didn’t throw the election. If you added all third party votes to Democrats instead, you’d still have a trump presidency. This is after Harris ran a very right-wing campaign. They bet hard on Zionism, “border security” and military strength and they lost, partly because Trump can do all those things “better”(worse).
We might not have lost the House and Senate though, in addition to other smaller local races. Stop trying to absolve them.
Feel free to do the math yourself then. But I don’t mind absolving them. They didn’t vote for Trump, and they exist in a terrible two party system that makes them choose between fascists. They literally did not cause this. So shut the fuck up. I don’t want to hear criticism of third party voters from anyone who hasn’t given 10x that criticism of everyone else on your list.
Firstly, you assume I don’t criticize others when my original post straight up does. That is a very false assumption. Secondly, you are only absolving them because you are in a position of privilege to do so. Until you’ve also had to uproot your life, tell your loved ones goodbye, and flee your home because of an existential threat, you have absolutely ZERO right to police my voice on this. With all due respect, fuck off.
I will not be responding further
Ya again, I need 10x the smoke for Republicans and Democrat politicians. Not just a mention. People voting for a better candidate are not the issue. I’m glad you won’t be responding cause this level of stupidity is draining.
And you still haven’t backed up your claim that third party voters had a significant sway on the election.
I feel like takes like this come from people with no long term memory.
Christ. How ironic.
I spent about a minute trying to figure out whatever the fuck you’re talking about and it was a big waste of time
Christ. How pointless as usual.
CIA ass post
When asked what Kamala’s opinion was about Trans people and protections, all she said is “they should follow the law”.
The fuck is that non answer
That’s not what was said. Harris’s answer was insufficient, but she said that she would follow the law while citing that the law mandates access to gender-affirming care.
It’s insufficient, but it’s also not what the literal fucking Nazis were salivating about at the time.
She was trying to coddle the right /centrist by not saying she’ll prosecute them, but also not saying they should have rights either.
but also not saying they should have rights either.
I fucking hate this site.
That is what went over the line for you? what?
Just another ridiculous statement after dealing with, in many other comment threads, other ridiculous statements. Straws, camels, backs, etc. Especially from someone who doesn’t seem particularly ‘bad’ in their outlook. Hit like a brick of frustration.
I fucking hate this site.
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log off 🥰
And let pro-genocide ghouls spread your slop in the hopes of getting as many minorities murdered as possible?
Not only that, but the majority of those posts and comments are on non-political comms, where the ghoul brigade doesn’t come out to lick fascist boots and talk about how minorities deserve to die because the DNC didn’t entertain them enough.
You sound genuinely unwell. Be in community, it will do you good.
You sound genuinely unwell.
I didn’t realize your criteria for being unwell was “Not enjoying Nazis”. I suppose that says a lot about what you think of as ‘well’, though.
Maybe try logging off, I had a great day outside today.
Ah, this Pug Jesus. Always angry at leftists showing they’re just Republican lite. Got it.
Still campaigning against the anti-fascist coalition in the hopes of speeding the fascists to victory, I see. I guess getting Trump into power wasn’t enough - you want to make sure that he stays there.
Yeah the Democrats caused Trump. Nice try buddy. When Dems win, “we don’t need the left!” and when they lose “It’s all the lefts fault!”
Keep trying
Dems need the left, and the left has no option but the Dems. Sorry that I’m not the centrist Pelosi-worshipper you want to paint me as. I’m just someone who prefers anti-fascism to fascism, unlike you.
Where have I said I’m fascist? Because I criticize Dems? A dog shit party that did nothing to stop Trump?
Where have I said I’m fascist?
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize self-identifying as a fascist was how one defined a fascist. I guess you don’t define most of the Republican party as fascists either - unsurprising considering your blasé attitude towards helping them into power. :)
Maybe it’s time to log off for a bit and get some fresh air?
Holy blame shifting, Batman!
Fascism is not a break from the previous administration, but a continuation.
Libs are still crying about their loss of power, still doing nothing to resist.
Fascism is not a break from the previous administration, but a continuation.
Average privileged ‘leftist’ Nazi supporter.
If genocide isn’t a red line for you then you don’t have red lines. You will literally vote for rounding up trans people and gassing them as long as the opposing candidate wants to torture them before execution because “it’s the lesser evil”
If genocide isn’t a red line for you then you don’t have red lines.
So you voted against every Dem candidate since 1960? And every GOP candidate too, of course. And most of the third party candidates, even.
You will literally vote for rounding up trans people and gassing them as long as the opposing candidate wants to torture them before execution because “it’s the lesser evil”
Cruelty to trans folk, may I remind you, was the case for the past 200 years of Western democracy; yet abstaining to vote against chattel slavery of Black folk on the issue of trans rights would have, likewise, been un-fucking-acceptable.
Voting takes a day, at most, to avert very real and extensive harm to multiple marginalized demographics. It does not prevent your revolution. And, in fact, having even mildly sympathetic or neutral agents, even if they’re shitlibs, in power is far more conducive to revolutions than stacking all institutions of power with fascists who will do anything to crush you.
Do you have any red lines? Will you vote for a candidate that wants to murder your mom as long as the other candidate wants to murder both your parents?
No, PugJesus doesn’t. He would have been voted for Hitler himself, as Hitler’s whole shtick was that what he was doing was a necessary evil for the greater good of the German people. The road to Hell is paved with utilitarianism.
Are we talking about the same Democratic Party who put forward Kamala “I believe we should follow the law” Harris as their only candidate for president?
How you people manage to convince yourselves that a Democratic Party win would achieve anything at all for trans rights, is beyond belief!
The dems as a whole wouldn’t be moving back as quickly. If your in one of the groups you’d be better off being in a delicate but protected class rather than persecuted. Having obstruction to arms shipments would help Palestinians.
How you people manage to convince yourselves that a Democratic Party win would achieve anything at all for trans rights, is beyond belief!
So back to you, how’s not voting achieving anything? Its proven to be a strategic blunder. Tamkies that say otherwise aren’t serious people.
The dems as a whole wouldn’t be moving back as quickly. If your in one of the groups you’d be better off being in a delicate but protected class rather than persecuted. Having obstruction to arms shipments would help Palestinians.
But that’s not good enough (legitimately true) so we should let Nazis win (unacceptable and literal Nazi shit)!
So back to you, how’s not voting achieving anything? Its proven to be a strategic blunder. Tamkies that say otherwise aren’t serious people.
They’re convinced that it’s awoken the inner leftist soul of the people. “Mamdani would never have won if Harris had prevailed!” is an opinion espoused in this very thread.
Frustrating isn’t it.
Immensely. I find this whole argument tedious, but the alternative is to let people normalize this slop on here.
This isn’t complicated to anyone without brain damage.
Kamala: Prosecutor. Doctorate in law. No criminal record. Member of a party known for NOT targeting trans people and introducing bills to secure rights for them.
Trump: Felon. Rapist. Insurrectionist. Thief. Dumbfuck. Member of a party known for persecuting trans people.
