Don’t know what you’re talking about
is that a “69” on the train?
how can you see what’s inside the car?
i don’t, but that on the outside looks like a 69 anyway
That’s how we do it here ;) our train rides are really good
It’s the Dutch trainlines (NS or Nederlandse Spoorwegen) logo!
Sadly, it’s only the horizontally compressed logo for Nederlandse Spoorwegen.
Happy VIRM noises at 160kph
In Quebec, we sold all our passenger rail to CN and other private entities, so passenger trains literally have to stop sometimes and let merchandise trains go through. Dumbest move ever.
Ahhh, I’ve been caught doing this a few times. I would misjudge the speed differential and it would take way too long to pass the other guy. Trucks usually have governors on them and cruise control is set to max… Cars would back up behind me and I would be thinking “come on, man, let off the gas a little and let me by!” I always felt bad about it because I know what a piss off it is being caught behind that bullshit.
If you’re barely able/willing to travel faster than the other truck, why pass in the first place? You’re both traveling nearly the same speed. Just ride behind the other guy. The only time you need to pass is if you want to cruise substantially faster than the person you’re passing.
They said they misjudged the speed of the other driver.
You have to notice at some point approaching them.
He didn’t notice, as he had misjudged the speed difference.
When you’re driving a truck for months on end on cruise control, you have less work to do: look in front and steer. Time can get a bit relative.
6 minutes pass when you feel like it was only 2. Not a cardinal mistake.
Or the other guy decides to speed up.
And especially if you drive a route where you have to wait for hours on customs. The waits get really long so of course 15 minutes feel like 5 sometimes.
Because you spend the entire time trying to match the small variations in someone else’s speed which is a distraction vs pootling along at your own pace. Also even going just a couple of km/h faster than someone you drop them pretty quick.
Because you get paid for the miles you drive every day. If I can drive more miles, I get paid more. Plus, that can be turned into rest time if I get to me destination sooner. That means I got time for doing laundry and taking a shower or even sleeping.
I bet you didn’t misjudge. People have a bad habit of speeding up when someone tries to pass them. I’ve been stuck at 60 behind a driver in a 70 zone and as soon as I start passing the asshat speeds up to 75 in the cruising lane.
Even more infuriating was the person I got stuck behind that was cruising in the passing lane going too fast to pass whenever the other lane was clear, but then drastically slowing down whenever they were actually passing someone. So I’d get frustrated whenever they dropped to 65 because they were nervous passing, but I couldn’t get passed them because they’d be back up at 85-90 whenever the other lane was clear
I see this a lot in VA. They are constantly hauling modular houses or heavy equipment over Afton mountain on 64. People try to pass, but get nervous when beside the trucks and slow to a crawl. I don’t get how they feel safer hovering beside it rather than getting past it into the clear.
No, most of those trucks are going as fast as they can and are on cruise control. The governor on one might let it go a little faster than the other.
I’ve found this behavior to be more or less common in different places. It’s extremely common in Florida, for one. It’s pretty common in some parts of New York too. By contrast, just one state over, I haven’t encountered it in Connecticut at all (though I haven’t driven there as much as I have in Florida or New York, and I’ve mostly used the highways, where slower drivers are explicitly instructed to stay in the right lane. So there could be a sampling bias.)
I never understood it. It’s like the driver thinks that if somebody passes them, it’s a personal insult. It reminds me of those who speed up when they see that somebody might merge in front of them; like they feel possessive of the public road somehow.
I was driving back from FL one time going up a 55mph state route (331). Some lady in one of those Lexus 2-seater convertibles was going a whole 56 in the right lane. I get up to her and attempt to pass, and just as I my front bumper gets to her car’s midpoint, she floors it and disappeared into the horizon.
About 20ish minutes later I get on I-10 going East and after a few miles of going 78+ in a 70mph highway I catch up to the same lady in the same Lexus going maybe 68. I, again, attempt to pass her and as soon I get close BAM she floors it and quickly disappears.
When I see this happening I try to leave enough space behind so the trucker feels like they can slow down safely, and most of them do.
If they’re not slowing down and you’ve misjudged it, why don’t you slow down and move back to the right lane?
Depends on how far I got before cars showed up.
The red truck is passing, at 1km/h speed difference you shouldn’t be waiting more than 30 seconds for it to clear. Patience.
Every one replying to me that it’s technically three truck lengths needs to calm down. If you hate driving this much then there’s better things to do with that energy. It’s terrifying that I’m sharing the highway with some of y’all.
for a truck to pass another truck, it has to be in the left lane for at least 3 truck-lengths, which is roughly 65 meters. 1kph is 10m/36s, so 65m is 36s×6.5 = 3.9minutes
Patience.
Tell that to the truck driver. 1 km/hr faster equates to just 36 seconds saved on a 100 km trip. And to do that they cause a massive traffic jam that greatly increases the chance of accidents and delays dozens of people for several minutes each.
Why are you OK haughtily telling dozens of drivers “patience,” while ignoring the massive asocial asshole causing a huge disruption from an even greater level of impatience?
Because I have witnessed car accidents with fatalities. Yes, the trucker is an asshole. Have patience. Get home safe.
Think of where you are right now. You are not the passenger of a vehicle telling a driver to have patience. We’re specifically discussing the situation from an outside perspective. “Have patience” is useful advice for someone actively driving a car stuck behind passing trucks. It comes across as condescending when you bring it into a discussion about whether passing truck drivers are in the wrong or not.
People telling me to have patience pisses me off.
Because having patience is how you avoid getting into a crash when stuck behind an elephant race. The driver freaking out behind the wheel over this stuff is a danger to themselves and others.
The rounding caused by the 2 digit speed labels hide the actual problem. Blue is actually going 80.45 km/h and red is going 80.55 km/h.
You’re poo-pooing the impatience of the car drivers but ignoring the impatience of the truck driver.
Why the hell is the truck passing another truck to begin with? You’re talking a measly 1 km/hr difference! For a trip of 100 km, that measly 1 km/hr difference means the truck driver is passing another truck to save a measly 36 seconds. (And that’s the ideal case, assuming the speed difference is maintained the whole time.) And by doing so they create a massive traffic jam that causes dozens of drivers to be delayed by minutes.
There’s a reason many states ban trucks from passing other trucks. It’s an extremely selfish and asshole thing to do. One truck driver saves 30 seconds or so on their trip. In exchange, dozens of drivers lose minutes. The truck driver is stealing an hour of time from the rest of society to give himself 30 seconds. You should not be defending such selfish bastards.
The math changes a bit if you assume a longer trip, but the conclusion won’t. Inevitably the time the truck driver steals from others will be vastly more than the time they save. It’s dangerous asocial behavior.
You don’t know why one truck decided to pass another one. Could be a safety issue. There’s no way for you to know for sure. It’s OK though, you’ll still get to your destination within a minute of when you would have if they hadn’t chosen to overtake. And everything will be fine.
You’re grasping at straws. What safety issue would cause one truck to need to pass another? If you’re worried about something falling off the truck in front of you, the correct response is to slow down and increase your following distance, not to slowly pass the other truck while creating a massive traffic hazard.
If it’s a “safety issue,” it’s definitely not happening at a 1 MPH speed differential. C’mon, now.
Exactly. If I’m driving a truck and I’m worried the truck in front of me is about to explode or have a part fly off it, I’m not going to pass them at 1 mph. If I can pass faster, I’ll pass quickly. If I can’t, I’ll hit the brakes and put a huge amount of distance between us. In a safety emergency, you want to increase your separation as fast as possible. You do that by braking, not by slowly passing.
Don’t care
You forget the other vehicle is also moving and is really long, it takes almost 3 minutes for one to pass the other and a distance of over 2000m. And just bumper to bumper, that doesn’t include safe lane changing distances either.
If you’re talking two cars, than yes.
Yeah but the red truck isnt letting me burn up all my gas. Its also making me wear out my break pads because i need to stay exactly 6 feet behind it until it finally moves over. At least I get a free lunch of rocks that my cars windshield gets to eat as I sit behind it.
They give you a full 6 ft of breathing room there? Must be a really nice place to live.
Insufferable nerd shit. The truck driver can fuck off are pass when appropriate.
People getting so bent out of shape seeing two trucks next to each other that they can’t even type straight.
You just have an axe to grind against cars in general. You’re not objective enough to have a useful opinion here.
I own two cars that I like very much. They are not necessary for my opinion to be useful. Ad hominem is for babies. Are you a baby?
Your opinions clearly indicate you have axe to grind against private vehicle ownership. Fair enough. But that is clouding your opinions. Half your posts are from the “Fuck Cars” community. You’re looking for any thin, ridiculous, and rare excuse to justify the truck driver creating a massive road hazard endangering dozens of innocent people.
I just told you I own two cars? I don’t hate cars, I hate car culture.
Nah, they are assholes. They’ll get the slow down over the next half mile once I’m in front. Absolute ADHD contrariness fighting for these guys shitty at their jobs age not giving a fuck.
Drive less.
More if you include lane changes. Then there’s the line of other cars that had to slow down as well.
Grow up, we don’t choose to drive, we have to and we don’t want to be on the road with you either.
i mean. as long as you are passing, and not speeding, it’s not “camping in the passing lane.”
just because a dbag comes up behind you wanting to go 20 over the limit and you are not passing “fast enough” does not mean you are camping either.
Depends on the jurisdiction. In Germany, you must not overtake anyone unless you are “driving with significantly higher speed”.
This is basically unenforced though.
but always still under the limit? interesting! so overtaking a 20 under person is fast time wise but someone going 5 under makes the effective limit lower?
There’s no limit on the German Autobahn!
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However, many countries have laws that allow you to exceed the posted speed limit by a certain amount as long as you are overtaking.
You are absolutely wrong in the American state of Georgia and can be ticketed for it.
Fuck, Georgia is a terrible state to get ticketed in. In other states, if the cops don’t show up to court, they throw the case out. But in Georgia, if the cop doesn’t show up, the court case is rescheduled.
Source: receiving two speeding tickets in Georgia while living out of state (two separate occasions. One at night when there was no one else on the road to gauge my speed by, and the second in a speed trap just moments after I recounted the first story to the passengers in the car. Fuck driving in Georgia.)
I do it every day and I couldn’t agree with you more.
Passing at 1mph faster is extremely obnoxious still
I don’t mind just nudging my cruise control down a tad when this happens behind a car, but there’s something claustrophobic about driving behind a box truck for a long period of time.
Increase the gap.
“Oh shit, I’m being passed by a truck! Better speed up to match their pace.”
This is my new pet peave, I hope this becomes illegal one day. It backs traffic up like crazy.
It is in Germany. Here overtaking may not take longer than 45s, so a truck can’t do it unless the other one is driving 10 km/h below the speed limit.
If they get caught they are 1/8 of their way to a suspended license (requiring a 6 month wait and a psychological review and the normal exam to reacquire) .
The trucks are still much more likely to be doing something useful to society than the ecocidal narcissists they’re pissing off by slowing down the zoom-zooms.
If this picture fills you with rage, you aren’t mature enough to be in control of two tons of heavy machinery anyway.
You don’t need to defend asocial assholes steeling hours from society to save themselves seconds.
asocial assholes steeling…from society to save themselves seconds.
Like people using private cars as personal transportation do?
i got to witness this with two double-trailer log carriers once, they were jockeying for position at 90km/h while i was trying to get past. now this was my first time in the company tesla model 3 (this was in 2017) and i just wanted to get past so i waited for an opening and floored it. after i had cleared them i looked down at the speedometer and i was doing 170. it didn’t feel any different to doing 90. super weird experience considering i’d managed to make myself car sick a few minutes earlier when accelerating from 40 to 100 on the onramp.
People get car sick in EVs more because there’s no audible cue when the car is accelerating, though exposure can train their brains enough to prevent it.
170? I didn’t think those could go that fast. Was it a performance or “plaid” one?
no, it was the base model. i think they’re limited to 180km/h.
Oh, km/h! I’m in the US. I think in Miles Davises and feets.
you know i’m fine with whatever fetishes, i just don’t want them doing that stuff when i’m around.
I’m of the side that says just be patient, but I believe that mandated speed governors contribute to this issue. In Ontario where I’d seen this a lot, that is 105km/h, but it seems that they aren’t calibrated well, or engine performance for loaded trucks going up hills means they can’t pass even if they had been partway through it on the downhill. In Nova Scotia, I’ve been passed by large flatbed trucks that have no issue going 125km/h past me going 110.
For our German-challenged friends:
Elephant Racing
colloquialism for one lorry (semi truck) overtaking another.Elephant racing is a colloquial term for a situation where one lorry (semi truck) overtakes another on a multi-lane road (usually a highway) with a small speed difference.
Quantitative Analysis
The overtaking process usually takes several minutes due to the small speed difference. This difference is often due to the legal allowance being the speed limit plus 6 km/h tolerance, but the speed in the overtaking lorry is instead set to 10 km/h above the limit. Even if the faster vehicle ends up closer than the prescribed 50 m following distance for trucks above 50 km/h, overtaking at speeds below 10 km/h isn’t permitted. With a difference of 4 km/h, an elephant race takes at least half a minute if the passing lorry is already very close and returns to its lane immediately after.
Taking into account lane changing as well as the distance before the overtaking process, a typical overtaking manoeuvre will take 3 minutes and extend over 4 kilometers at a speed difference of 2 km/h. Sometimes these attempts fail and are aborted, especially when increased air resistance or gradient changes negate the excess speed.
The time saved is very small, even over a day. For a distance of 500 km at a constant speed of exactly 80 km/h, it takes 6 hours and 15 minutes. If the route is clear throughout and is driven at a constant speed of 82 km/h, it will still take 6 hours and 6 minutes, not even 10 minutes less. These 10 minutes of time savings contrast with the significantly higher time losses for the many affected car drivers on two-lane highways.
Do it on a 125 motorbike just fast enough to overtake but not enough power to do so if there’s a slight hill or head wind. Then the blinker comes on.
Times this by 5 and you have alot of fwys around here. 6 lanes, 4-5 have semis all going 50-60mph. Then the far left lane has a minivan trying to go 65mph (speed limit is 70) [everyone goes 80 if they can)
every time i see a gallery of this guy’s comics posted, they start out innocuous like this, then invariably they start becoming blatant far-right propaganda. every single time. the guy’s a chud.
i dunno the second was never a problem for me in gta
