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Brave has always been a joke. And Brave users will always be a joke. And anyone who’s ever simped for Brave will always be a moron.
Rude. But not inaccurate. Brave pretends to be better than Chrome and Google, but also Mozilla and Firefox at the same time, though Firefox has always done it better and has never contributed to the chromium monopoly. Greed over diversification of the Web and competition between browser engines to effect real change. The least Brave could do is make their own engine.
Rude. But not inaccurate.
Eh, I use it for watching youtube.
For some reason (likely youtube fighting my adblockers) I get tons of errors and issues with youtube on firefox. But Brave works alright, and also blocks the ads. So it’s my dedicated youtube browser.
never had issues with firefox and ublock origin and youtube and whatever and neither on android, linux, windows or whatsoever. guess i am just not dumb enough
when do you think brave will overtake firefox in share worldwide?
1 year, 2?
lol
Never?
Fuck that leaky browser. Asshole development.
Firefox users stay winning. I love how mad some people are about Firefox.
I am not mad about Firefox. I am mad about Mozilla.
won so much uninstall when it showed a world cup advert to everyones face the other day. the forks are great, but the fox is getting enshitificated in every possible way.
Not this face. Didn’t see shit. Where?
On the mobile app, when you open it there’s a non-removable FIFA widget in the home page. I hate it.
Edit: I’ve tried again and now they added an option to remove it. But still, why would I want a fucking soccer widget in my browser?
Yeah it’s doing that to me too. The ‘Countdown to the world cup’ thing? Fuck the world cup, fuck these ads, I’m only still using Firefox because I can’t be bothered to migrate all my bookmarks to something better.
Exactly, and the world cup of soccer is managed by FIFA, one of the most evil organisations in the world.
Firefox is a beautiful product managed by a retarded company. Mozilla should die and just become a non-profit.
FIFA, one of the most evil organisations in the world
Sorry, but no matter how bad and corrupt FIFA is, calling them that is ridiculous. Your average American health care/insurance company and their “deny, defend, depose” operation is probably worse.
The Firefox forks let you migrate everything seamlessly for the most part.
What would be better though?
I have my problems with mozilla, but between apple, google and mozilla, they absolutely win in my book.
I also use a fork on most systems, but I still use Firefox pretty often, and I can think of a lot more ways it could be worse and isn’t being enshittified.
Didn’t even notice it
Brave thinks its users are suckers
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Pay for adblock by the guy who made us need NoScript.
To be fair…most of the general population are indeed suckers.
To be fair, brave users are suckers
I don’t use Brave, but one correction. From the article: "Brave sells Origin to strip added features—a $60 one-time fee (free on Linux). "
Brave thinks its Windows and OSX users are suckers, not its Linux users apparently.
Evidence points to them being suckers, yes.
Brave lets people use Origin for free if they’re on Linux
lol
The bad news is, if you’re not on Team Tux, you’re going to have to pay $60 for Brave Origin. Granted, you only need to buy it once, and you’ll get unlimited activations across all of your devices.
It’s amazing people still believe this BS.
They’ll probably hold to it for that exact product. If they rebrand it and add it back, that’s no longer the same thing you paid for ;)
I feel like if you’re writing the sentence “an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave […] without its extra features,” you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.
Adds features and asks for a payment to access the toggle buttons
hahahahahaha
Reminds me of a joke:
My dad always warned us about Septic Tank Steve, and that we should never pay him to do anything, and we should have listened. One day Steve came by and said if we gave him a nickel, he’d swim around in the septic tank. We thought that was hilarious, so we gave him a nickel, and he swam around the tank a while. Then he came and sat next to us on the porch and said “If you want me to leave, gimme $100.”
Well, we’ll toss him back in if he likes it so much. Maybe sell off the ladder if he really wants to stay :)
Can we agree that Brave:
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Is scummy.
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Has a shady ceo, and a shady history.
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Is possibly a security risk.
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Is still orders of magnitude better than using Google Chrome.
And that:
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This headline is both true and clickbait-ish.
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You can turn these things off in Brave’s settings, for free.
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That doesn’t make this feature not scummy.
Basically no one should be using Brave, but no one should be using Google Chrome either, yet here we are.
And the revolving door of “best unabandoned Chromium fork to use” (Helium for the moment, or Ungoogled Chromium if you don’t mind some broken features, just to name two), is buried under so much SEO that it’s legitimately difficult to research.
So… I’m not gonna go out of my way to flame Brave users. If they’re trying to do better than Chrome, good! Not-Google is good. They can pay for this I guess. I’m not installing Brave, though, I’m not recommending it, and this certainly isn’t making me want to.
use vivaldi if you want a chromium browser. its very customizable
Vivaldi concerns me a little, because I keep catching them trying to replace web addresses for major retailers with what appear to be affiliate links. For example, if I start typing the address for Amazon (I know, shitty company, but it’s the first page that comes to mind) it will pop up an auto complete to click on. If I click it, I can see that I’m redirected to Amazon through what appears to be either an affiliate or a tracking link. However, if I type the address fully in the browser and don’t use auto complete it takes me straight to Amazon, no redirecting or strange links popping up first. They do not disclose that they are doing this anywhere that I have found and I think it’s shady as fuck. I don’t have any extensions installed and it happens on multiple devices (phone, laptop, PC) and only on Vivaldi, so it’s definitely the browser and not an untrustworthy extension or a compromised device.
Ooh, thank you. I get they need to make money, but I hate this. It also won’t seem to turn off for me, I disabled the setting for direct match, deleted all my cookies and such, deleted the browser cache, and it’s still popping up and still redirecting through the affiliate link. Boo.
Hmmm, that’s weird, I didn’t even realize this feature existed until I read your post. Guess I have always had it disabled, and I’ve never run into the issue. Have you also deleted the default bookmarks? The address bar will prefer bookmarks when you start typing an address, so if you don’t delete the default ones that come with Vivaldi, they might be autocompleting?
I did delete the bookmarks, yes. I’ll have to keep playing with it and see if I can make it stop, but it does make me feel a little better knowing what it is. I just wish they were more open and transparent about it. Seeing my browser just randomly redirecting me through third party links with no warning is alarming and makes me want to go find another browser and I’ve gone through like 6 in the last 2 years trying to find one I like.
This seems to be disabled for me on mobile, but enabled on the desktop. Seems like a helpful feature, though they could’ve just done something like Firefox where it’s an offline search for a website with the same starting letters.
Still, appreciate the writeup and trying to minimize data collection while calling a 3rd party service in the browser and the option to disable it.
Catch it and report it
Report it to who? Vivaldi?
The affiliate program. This is fraud.
that might be the search engine you are using. that doesnt happen to me. i use amazon every day
I’ve been able to replicate with DuckDuckGo, Startpage, and Ecosia. Interestingly enough while testing it out to see if that was the issue I’ve noticed that it isn’t happening every time, more like every other time. It redirects so fast it’s easy to miss, but I was able to screen record and grab a screenshot of the link it’s redirecting through. It’s the same regardless of search engine.
Yeah. Or SRWare Iron, IIRC. Or DuckDuckGo or Orion on mobile. Cromite. Firefox, Zen, whatever.
There are tons of good options, certainly more than I know. But it’s a hard thing for the average person to research, especially when forks get abandoned or whatever.
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Brave runs an ad network.
“Origin” is a peculiar choice for a version name. I wonder if they’re trying to go off of the popularity of a common extension
That’s a brave move.
The top comment on that site says you can already disable all of these features from within the settings. Is this true?
I think so, but it’s spread among different menus and flags. Plus if even if you disable it, it’s still there, one of the origin options sounds like it has it fully removed from the code.
It’s true, if you don’t want to spend 5 minutes customizing your browser to your needs you can use GitHub script that disables all of the features for you. But I don’t see how feature like reader isn’t handy, it often lets you bypass paywalls for free.
Are brave and Plex related?
No, but brave “shields”, aka pre installed but shittier unlock origin, can sometimes break plex or other sites that require certain things that could look like trackers
I meant because Plex also added so much extra shitty shit that I never asked for and couldn’t remove, so I moved to jellyfin
I don’t use Brave, and don’t recommend it to people, but it seems like the $60 is intended as a donation/“vote-with-your-wallet on how we monetize” type product rather than something that is actually worth that much.
It doesn’t change all of the OTHER problems with Brave, but it might be a step in the right direction when it comes to monetization? Pay once vs. LLM/crypto/injected ads
https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=origin
Brave Origin is a paid version of the browser for users who don’t need all the features that support Brave as a business, but still want the privacy that only Brave offers. Origin users will continue to benefit from our industry-leading privacy, adblock, and speed (via Shields), as well as regular software updates, Chromium patches, and security and privacy improvements. Origin is available on desktop and mobile versions 1.91.x and above.
- Support our mission & open-source work
- Minimalist browser UI centered on Brave Shields
- Maintain core adblock, privacy, & speed
- One-time purchase can be activated multiple times across all your devices
