Hmmm… Guess what percentage of the owners who raise cattle voted for the orange moron?
98.5%, 99% or 99.5?
100%
Farm people always vote against their own interests - and it shows.
You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know . . . morons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYTQ7__NNDI
Favourite scene of all time. I don’t think Cleavon Little knew it was coming and was genuinely laughing.
It was completely genuine, as the “you know… morons” part was adlibbed by Wilder. Little was already visibly struggling to hold a straight face as is, so when Wilder added that last part it made him crack. The film crew decided to keep that take in the movie because of how funny it was, but as the scene transitions you can see Wilder look towards the film crew as he wasn’t sure if they would redo the scene because of it.
Letting comedic geniuses adlib on film should be the most common get rich quick scheme on Earth.
If you utterly dismiss farmers as incorrigibly stupid rather than trying to talk with them, they will never change. If you leave agricultural workers to the wolves while the fascists pretend to have their backs, will they support you or the fascists?
Did you know most of the majority-black counties in the USA are rural areas in the South that vote overwhelmingly for Democrats? Are they also ejeets that deserve to get their cows screwed?
What about the people who get screwworms in their injuries? That’s gonna be the poor bastards who get employed to work with the livestock. Who works in shitty underpaid farm labour? Poor whites, black people, immigrants. People who have few other choices.
Snobbery against rural areas is just classism. It’s how Republicans could get such a grip on them in the first place. Go ahead and only struggle amongst educated people in the cities and scratch your head when when your country stays fascist. Watch the rural-urban divide get wider.
This is a really bad take on the situation dude.
Yeah none of this is a surprise. Trump has done what he promised. I told many conservatives this, and they just refused to believe it. Or some even dismissed some of the things Trump said “as just politics” claiming he had no intent to keep his crazier campaign promises.
It’s just the standard conservative play-by-play of
It’s not going to happen -> it’s not happening-> maybe it is happening but it’s not our fault -> it is happening but it’s too late to do anything about it. Alternatively replace step 3 with “but the dems do it too!!”
Anything else they just slap on a thought-terminating TDS label and move on.
I have spent quite a bit of time trying to convince Irish farmers to be left-wing, to understand that imperialism is the reason their gas prices are high and not the carbon tax. One of the biggest obstacles is that to them the urban left and liberals dismiss them as lost causes. Of course they don’t vote for snobs who don’t know wtf the CAP is and think that everyone outside of Dublin is an idiot redneck. Of course they listen to the silver-tongued devils of the right.
They were consistently surprised I care at all. Is that not shameful?
I live in Washington State, which is a similar size to Ireland. I live on the east side of the state in the second most populated city. Similar to Cork. It has much of the same dynamic. Dublin being like Seattle to us. Everyone loves to complain about the biggest city am I right? So anyways we have one Federal Represenitive for our side of the state and it was usually a liberal and at one point one of the most powerful in Congress (Tom Folley) but since then the Republicans have dominated the slot. Thing is that our area is mostly farm land.
I understand what you are getting at but the reality is that the farmers are not voting in their best interst most of the time. Identity politics are more import to them then the politics of supporting rural farm life. They would rather vote for the person that paints urban voters as haters and gay and baby killers then vote for the liberal that wants to support their school systems and make the environment healthy by controlling the pollution or overuse of the land. Its maddness and frustrating and I see it in real time because I am engaged with it both in personal life and my job.
I get what you mean. I won’t pretend like bigotry isn’t a core plank of the platform of the GOP or Independent Ireland. Still, an awful lot of bigoted people still felt the allure of people like Bernie Sanders and may join a trade union in certain circumstances. Such things also go a long way towards moving them away from bigotry if they succeed, because it shows that gay people and migrants were never the thing making them miserable.
My point though is moreso that saying that the farmers had it coming and giving up on them is not how one digs one’s way out of the pit one is stuck in. I don’t particularly wanna turn my back on conservative communities as irreparably fucked and feel proud of being smarter than them. I would like the community around me to be better. And saying that the farmers had it coming rather than using the opportunity to push them left is essentially patting oneself on the back for moral superiority rather than making life better.
I’m a migrant myself. I chose to come another country and integrate myself. I’d quite like it to be nicer, y’know?
I understand where you’re coming from, but I can’t sympathize with people who hurt themselves trying to hurt me. They did real damage voting the way they did and having to suffer the consequences of their actions is the only justice I’m going to get.
Do you think all of them voted this way?
As I said, a bunch of the people hurt by this are gonna be immigrant labourers, black people, etc. They’re in the shit with you, not against you. You’re not gonna get them organized and mobilized to stand alongside you by dismissing them and lumping them in with their bosses.
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They’re entitled welfare queens (that absolutely refuse to acknowledge their welfare because they’re entitled) that vote consistently against everyone’s best interest so they can keep growing garbage corn that we turn into garbage fuel that destroys engines. Fuck farmers. Monoculture bullshit fucking the soil.
Are the folks employed by the owners, the ones who are personally at risk of getting screwworms in their wounds and at risk of losing their jobs so bosses can keep up profits, entitled welfare queens? They’re poor workers like you.
And what of the black farmers in Tennessee? They overwhelmingly vote for the Democrats. Do they also deserve parasites in their cattle?
They deserve what they voted for, farmers overwhelmingly vote for republicans.
Did Hispanic farmhands vote for Republicans? They’re the ones that are gonna be directly at risk of getting screwworms in their injuries. If the bosses scale down operations, they’re gonna be the ones who lose their jobs.
Do the 12% of farmers in Tennessee who are black also deserve to get fucked?
You do not defeat right-wing populists with snobbery. You defeat it by offering a compelling left-wing alternative that addresses the economic issues which bigotry is peddled as an alleged solution to.
it will be 0 once the screworms decimate the herds.
As we know Mexico being endemic to the parasite has cattle
Literally has nothing to do with Trump or Trump voters.
While the USDA has long been prepared and will just repeat their actions of last time—which the article implies they’re already ready to do as it escalates—it’s more a concern of what happened to Central/South America, or the fly’s reproductive behaviours that has caused the safe zone to slowly get overrun these past few years.
If you really want to point this to Trump, I guess you’ll need to find some sort of link to something the US did that somehow caused Panama and then Mexico to get re-invaded, about 6-12 months before he was in office.
Edit: Imagine he catches wind of it though and decides to fuck it all by putting RFK Jr. in charge at the last minute…
The moron cut a critical organization when a major threat was known to be migrating north.
The agency needed a massive influx of resources for an expanded effort to control it this year.
No the root cause is not his fault, but his dumbass decisions the the fucking morons who voted for him are absolutely at fault for the shitty response.
That’s…not how the sterile tactic works. Anywhere in the world.
For starters, you think they’re just going to release everything in winter because last fall there were a couple of cases in proximity of the border? It’s insect ecology. Always wait for late-spring to summer before anything. Most generational breeding starts peak-summer period.
When we do this for mosquitos in SE Asia, African Lakes, South America, etc. you prepare, then go it at the right time.
“We had a case in Texas now! Unleash the horde!”
Aaaand you’re fucked.
Again, the main concern is about how infestation breached through north of South America and Central America to get to North America. There were proxy cases to the US border over the last six months which obviously meant it’d be in the US come warmer months—and that’s been factored for—but why did it get that far up the continent over the last two years?
These are things way outside of Trump’s wheelhouse and apparently Lemmy users that only come in here for US politics articles.
We lost containment because doge cut funding while beef snuggling in Mexico has ramped up, so it’s not just Trump’s fault. But he saw a brush fire and poured gas on it. Beef is going to a luxury for wealthy Americans. Just like pets are becoming. Somebody noticed that the bottom half of the country functionally does not participate in “the economy” so their solution is to eliminate them. Letting the screw fly run loose helps that goal. See also the repeal of environmental protections and regulations.
Conservatives only know how to do one thing while governing which is to close their eyes, turn off their headlights, press the gas pedal and dare the road to swerve as they hurtle ahead into the darkness with no clue what is going to happen.
Ironic we call them “conservatives”.
The only thing “conservatives” ever conserve, ever have conserved, or ever even intended to conserve, is hierarchical power. Conservatism only happens to line up with “preserving that which currently exists” in the sense that, when conservatism was initially developed, the system that currently existed was monarchy.
Make no mistake: under any system but monarchy/dictatorship, “conservatives’” single purpose will always be to transform it into monarchy/dictatorship as switftly, radically, and even recklessly as they can possibly manage.
It’s mind boggling how many people don’t know the origins of modern conservatism. The nobles that escaped having their heads chopped off with the king in France formed a political party to conserve the old hierarchical system to retain control of the country. From the start they are only motivated by power. If you ever wondered why they don’t really have any values or moral compass, that is the answer.
They’re called conservatives because they should all be in conservatorships. That being the case, I think they should be called asylumists.
conservatives don’t conserve anything. the word comes from “con-serva” which is latin and means with-slaves. what that means is that they were historically the pro-slavery party.
- https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-english-dictionary.php?parola=cum
- https://www.online-latin-dictionary.com/latin-english-dictionary.php?parola=servus
There could be scary things out there in the dark, let’s just pretend they’re not there :)
In fairness they’ve been spreading Northward yearly for several years, we knew they were coming and eradication efforts have been underway for a while to try to blunt it. But, with the idiots currently in charge, just assume those efforts have been botched until proven otherwise.
the eradication program ended in 22-23, they were making headway ever since. likely it wouldve been restored under harris, A GOP wh will never restore something like this. they always end using budget cuts to fund TAX CUTS.
At no point did the eradication program end. In 23-24 Biden’s USDA quadrupled funding to the Panama facility producing sterile flies. The facility had been underfunded for years (/wave Trump1) and at some point during Covid lost contain of the Darian Gap, officially reaching “we fucked up” thresholds in 2022.
It’s the now classic answer to “Why is this happening now?” Trump fucked it up, Biden tried to fix it without any sense of urgency because he just assumed he’d get eight years, and then Trump came back and fucked it up again.
Biden tried to fix it without any sense of urgency
I would say funding it at 4x is pretty urgent
Sadly, no. That response in 2018-2021 would have been urgent, appropriate. By waiting until 2023 when reports were coming out in '21 that the Darian Gap was failing and '22 that it had failed, Biden did in fact drop the ball. The administration chose to try to work with/through Central American governments who, frankly, hadn’t dealt with screwworms in over a generation and were poorly equipped or completely clueless. Also, it’s worth noting, this facility was relatively inexpensive to operate at less than $20M/year. We had a beautiful system in place but Republican ignorance and Democrat pussyfooting has put us in a terrible position. The sunbelt population boom of the last 50 years was not just about AC.
Biden was inaugurated in '21. Why did it take multiple years for that funding to be budgeted?
Maybe you don’t remember, but before Trump, we didn’t accept presidential rule by decree
Well, except for small, unimportant things like sending people to another country to go kill people.
Also incorrect. USDA has a great deal of discretionary funding. The new $750M facility being build in Texas (several thousand km from the Darian Gap = great plan!) was approved internally at USDA. There was nothing stopping the funding in '21 other than not recognizing how dire the problem could become in just a few years.
So did the dems use presidential decree to get the funding in 2023?
Bullshit. Republicans always believed in it.
I’d assume at least 10x was asked, and it took years for the funding to arrive
‘Murica got exactly what’ Murica deserved
There are awful, powerful people in the background pulling the levers of power, but this isn’t new
It has always been fucked. It wasn’t founded on the ideals of freedom or anything noble
It was stolen, then built with slavery, and that slavery was just rebranded as capitalism so white people would buy into it, so long as they still felt superior to everyone else
The cruelty and greed have always been the defining characteristics
You mean rich white guys who didn’t want to pay taxes. I’m shocked America turned out the way it did.
Trump embodies the USA and is the direct result we could only get from our two party system.
One of your own poets articulated nicely:
Sold, stolen, arriving on the nightmare Praying for a dream.
Australia once again vindicated for banning beef from the USA years ago.
We do a fair job at banning some of their people too
I like seeing local losers pay for tickets to the speaking event of some utter cunt who will be refused a visa, and then the pathetic losers whine about losing their money
Yeah, I hear you. Sky and the cookers have done a number on people out there.
I live in what is considered “regional” Australia
The inbred hicks who think that sharing a name with a coloniser who died a hundred years ago is a flex resent it when they’re shown up as simple, unworldly people
They resent the stereotypes, but they go out of their way to reinforce all of the worst of them
Luckily, they’re not Queenslanders, or Territorians, so it could be worse
I still have say that I live in paradise, but I choose my company
I feel sorry for the cows, they did not vote for the MAGA shitheads.
They voted for MOOGA.
COWS, any kind of livestocks, it also include pets and most warm blooded mammals.
Shit, I’m a worm blooded mammal!
i read that with fry’s voice from futurama
oh, lol, i read warm blooded mammal at first
heh, it was a typo but now I’m leaving it like that.
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They never voted to be tortured and killed either.
We Saved MONEY!
-Ranchers whose Taxes INCREASED!
Exactly. Every one of those fuckers will happily vote R again after their herds all die off, because “RepUbLIcnS er BeTr for du EcoNiMeE!”
Those same meat peddlers were against the Federal Meat Inspection Act of 1906, saying that the time it takes to clean and label everything would slow them down and put them out of business. These fuckers would be selling rotting carcasses if they could.
After reading Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle, Teddy Roosevelt sent government agents to inspect the Chicago slaughterhouses. They conditions they found were worse than the book described and that was after the slaughterhouse owners found out government agents were coming and had their factories cleaned from top to bottom.
Some of the stuff described in the book was just plain nasty so how it could have been worse is beyond me.
Well don’t worry, this administration has a tried and true solution. If you stop checking for screwworm, it’s not there.
Daily reminder that the US government is a doomsday cult. This is is by design.
Still not sure if Genestealer cultist or chaos gods
Once trump dies they’re going to hoist his corpse on a golden throne and sacrifice Kid Rock fans daily just to keep him going.
This sounds like a scene in a Metalocalypse episode.
Starring RFK Murderface Murderface.
This is so much more horrifying than I realized. Humans can get it too. Here’s a CDC article on it if you dare. https://www.cdc.gov/new-world-screwworm/about/index.html
Symptoms can include
Feeling maggots (larvae) move or seeing maggots within a skin wound or sore, or in the ears, nose, eyes, or mouth. Painful skin wounds or sores that worsen within a few days. A foul-smelling odor from the site of the infestation. Bleeding from open sores.Yeah, that doesn’t sound fun.
Seeing maggots move within the eyes. Yeah, I think I can go without meat in that case.
You are the meat, in that case.
Yeaaaaah, was just reading about screwworms. I didn’t realize it was the parasite that embeds itself into your wounds and eats your flesh. Oh boy oh boy!
Same with your dogs and cats. Nearly all mammals.
Which mammals can’t get it?
Republic…. Actually they are reptiles
I just saw this yesterday, and that article had an estimated yearly impact of how much money farmers/ranchers would lose every year if screwworm comes back to the US, and IIRC, it was something like $900 million.
That’s not even enough for a ballroom.
‘Murica is a laughing stock, and rural’ Murica somehow managed to be even more stupid
Always remember that 50% of the population is more dumb than the average American.
Which begs the question of whether or not the median would be pushed up by conservatives actually being a minority in the US (studies claim that 60% of the population is more left leaning than the government regardless of who is in office), or if it would be even worse because we’re all actually just that dumb.
Kurzgesagt did a good episode on screworms.
Working as intended.
And with climate change, it could possibly spread further north than it used to, before it was eradicated in the US.
