Donald Trump told a Florida crowd that it is “treasonous” to say the US is not winning the war in Iran. The US president was speaking at The Villages in Florida, the world’s largest retirement community, when he made the remarks. Trump came to tout supposedly fulfilling his 2024 campaign promise to remove taxes on Social Security. It came after the president told Congress that the war in Iran had already ended, despite his earlier issuing a fresh threat to Tehran.
        • 🌸𝓯𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻🌸@sh.itjust.works
          7·
          28 days ago

          The goal of the war? Establishing Greater Israel. Netanyahu is really keen on the neighbor’s land. Trump is just there as the muscle, barely know what’s going on and just acts tough to protect his reputation with his flunkies.

      • zd9@lemmy.world
        7·
        28 days ago

        Permanent distraction from the fact that Trump trafficked and raped dozens of young girls with Jeffrey Epstein. That’s the entire goal.

        Israel forced Trump into this war because they have that proof of him raping children hanging over his head. Israel is just your standard genocidal imperialistic religious fanatical fascist regime that views any Muslims as “animals” or “subhumans” (their own words).

          • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
            4·
            28 days ago

            Maybe the reason he canceled that deal was so that he had an excuse to manufacture pretense later.

            I don’t think he has that much foresight, but maybe the people pulling his strings do…

            • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
              3·
              28 days ago

              Ya because that’s how deals work… The fact that one took years and thousands of experts from all over the world to broker is testimony to how dumb this notion that Iran doesn’t have the right get something back in negotiations is laughable. Also inserting that they don’t have the right to self determination via self defense is also insulting to everyone involved.

              • couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip
                2·
                28 days ago

                It’s insulting not to want a bunch of murdering religious nutjobs to have nukes?

                Maybe they should free their people before I’ll entertain the thought that they have ‘the right’ to such horrible weapons

                • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  28 days ago

                  Also wanted to add the Obama deal prevented them from getting nukes. You know how I know that? I read the fucking reports from the international inspectors. Iran passed every search and were complying with the deal. Trump threw it out and started bombing again. Not Iran. Where are you getting your news?! Seriously. You are either willfully ignorant or a troll.

                • zd9@lemmy.world
                  3·
                  28 days ago

                  So, who should have nukes? Just America and their allies? Every country has seen that as soon as they lose nuclear capability they crumble from imperialism, so why would they give up their weapons?

                  Ideally Iran or NK or Russia (or America) wouldn’t have nuclear weapons, but that’s not reality.

                • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  28 days ago

                  We’re the religious nut jobs dude. (and Isreal) Free their people? Who has more imprisoned citizens? Iran or America? Do you have any idea how Iran’s nut jobs can to power? We are making the same fucking mistakes we did 100 years ago. Also, only one nation has used nukes in violence. Acting as if we have the moral high ground here is alarming.

                • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  1·
                  27 days ago

                  Are you taking about Israel?

                  Because the Ayatollah had a fatwa against nukes, which is the sole reason it didn’t have one.

        • Almacca@aussie.zoneEnglish
          8·
          28 days ago

          I’m more concerned about the USA’s nuclear weapons at this point. Why can they have them, but Iran can’t?

        • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
          4·
          28 days ago

          Trump has single-handedly encouraged them to develop this program by destroying the Iran nuclear deal in his first term.

          This is ALL his fucking fault.

            • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
              2·
              28 days ago

              What? The Obama deal ensured they could enrich past nuclear power plant levels which is about 85% bellow bomb making. And getting to 95% or greater enrichment is extremely difficult.

              • couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip
                1·
                27 days ago

                Yeah, they showed you how difficult it really is back in '24

                You’re betting the farm on it they won’t ever be able to technically do what a bunch of pioneers did 80 years ago?

                • NatakuNox@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  27 days ago

                  Lol back in '24 you mean when Trump canceled the deal? I don’t think that’s the argument you think it is. And once again. All our actions have proven is they need a nuke for self determination.

        • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          27 days ago

          If that were the case, they wouldn’t have killed the Ayatollah, the one man preventing Iran from having a nuclear weapon with his religious Fatwa against nuclear weapons.

            • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              27 days ago

              No.

              Iran is a civilization with political factions and a robust political system.

              The faction that thought nukes would be stabilizing for the region (and time is showing that they were correct) wanted to be able to have nukes very quickly should the Ayatollah change his mind.

              Your understanding of Iran is basically just spoon fed propaganda with no critical thought. Go comment on things you actually know anything about.

              • couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip
                1·
                27 days ago

                The Iranian government basically murdered or tortured into submission any other political factions. The only ‘factions’ you see are subsets of the shia extremist faction. Sure, nukes would ‘stabilize’ their rule but its funnysad that you would try to present that as something preferable for those oppressed by it

    • crandlecan@mander.xyz
      7·
      28 days ago

      I would never say that the US is not winning the war in Iran, because I do not want to be deported by ICE, Trump’s S.S., since I have a foreign look. Heil Drumph, heil U.S. of A!

    • zd9@lemmy.world
      3·
      28 days ago

      Which war? You mean the Epstein War? The one that Trump started to distract from the fact that he trafficked and raped dozens of children?

    • I_Jedi@lemmy.todayEnglish
      6·
      28 days ago

      I wonder if the GOP will start using conditional statements to hide some lies. For example:

      “If we’re winning the war in Iran, then I will personally release all of the Epstein Files myself on the DOJ website by June.”

      “If the 2020 election was rigged in Biden’s favor, then I should have a third term.”

      “If I conquer Canada and squash their resistance without issue, then I will guarantee every unemployed person in the country a $200k/yr job.”

      All true statements according to vacuous truth.

      • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zipEnglish
        2·
        28 days ago

        I’m sure MAGA is doing this already, but it’s more of a side gig now.

        The main gig: whatever The Don says can be dismissed with “don’t take him so literally”. The goal is to generate engagement, aka ragebait. It might work within the USA, but not globally.

      • Bloefz@lemmy.world
        1·
        28 days ago

        The real goal of the Iran war has been achieved. Nobody is talking about Epstein anymore.

  • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
    49·
    28 days ago

    When facts are treason, it’s time to 86 the government.

    And for those who don’t (or pretend not to) understand American English common usage, that means “remove,” not “kill.”

    • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
      10·
      28 days ago

      When facts are treason

      Keep in mind this orange kid-diddler threatened to pull broadcasting license after his ginormous debate failure against Harris…because he was fact-checked.

      And vance’s biggest rebuttal during his debate with Walz was “I was told there would be no fact-checking”

    • takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      27 days ago

      And for those who don’t (or pretend not to) understand American English common usage, that means “remove,” not “kill.”

      There’s no other meaning, he invented it to go after Comey.

  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
    47·
    28 days ago

    It was treason to launch an insurrection against the United States on January 1st, 2021.

    It was treason to send the US to war in Iran, unauthorized by Congress, spending US taxpayer dollars, depleting US munitions stockpiles, throwing away US lives, alienating US allies, ruining US strategic defense posture, devastating US soft power, and tanking the US economy.

    These are only some of the examples of treason Donny has committed. The full list would be much longer.

  • sheetzoos@lemmy.world
    45·
    28 days ago

    It’s treason to be Putin’s bitch.

    Shame no one has the power, or the balls to hold the traitor accountable.

  • Stupidmanager@lemmy.worldEnglish
    40·
    28 days ago

    American here you orange fat fuck! Your war is lost, your deals suck and your hair is pathetic like your little mind.

    Treasonous is what you do, every day.

  • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
    36·
    29 days ago

    It is Treasonous for the President to not uphold the Constitution.

    The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment

    • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      9·
      28 days ago

      You mean the seditious rat that tried (and failed) to overturn an election?

      That Donald?

      ETA: Sorry. To be more specific, I’m asking if it’s the 34-times felonious pedophile rapist seditionist rat named Donald. Or, you know, a different Donald.

    • n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      29 days ago

      How many times has police been used to stop peaceful protests?? Lmfao. America is the land of the free as long as you have money. If you don’t have money, you’re guilty.

      But you’re not wrong

    • tacoplease@lemmy.world
      5·
      29 days ago

      First, he can’t read anything that doesn’t praise him which is then traitorous.

      Second, 76 47, no 96 47, no 187 … Oh you know what I mean.

  • spacegoat@lemmy.world
    35·
    28 days ago

    If the law punished real treason, then the entirety of the Heritage Foundation, AFPI, the Republican Party, heck, the majority of evangelicals would be swinging

  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
    34·
    28 days ago

    Trump thinks any criticism of him and his failures is treason.

    he likes to frame it as treason, because he wants to kill people who are critical and oppose him.

  • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
    34·
    28 days ago

    If the goal of the war was to increase gas prices by about 50%, murder a bunch of random schoolchildren, and accomplish nothing else, then they’re doing a real bang up job of it.

    • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      11·
      28 days ago

      accomplish nothing else

      Come on now, give credit where credit is due. There was also a shit ton of wealth transferred to Trump and his gang via insider trading, messing around with markets in general and a ton of other shady business. Russia (and likely Putin directly) and China also benefited from the chaos created. And also global instability increased by quite a lot, but one could argue that was only a side effect and not a direct goal.