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    Explanation: In the Medieval and Early Modern period, the area we now know as Germany was home to a… staggering variety of independent polities.

    … it would take quite some time for them all to be sorted out and put under one flag.

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    Napoleon. Yes, it’s a little oversimplified but that man really shaped Europe and Germany with it.

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      Napoleon the third to be specific. Bismarck helped. A little bit.

      "France, under Emperor Napoleon III, viewed Prussia’s growing power with suspicion and sought to curb its influence.

      The immediate catalyst for the Franco-Prussian War was the Ems Dispatch, a diplomatic communication edited by Bismarck to provoke French ire. The altered message made it seem as though the Prussian King Wilhelm I had insulted the French ambassador, leading to public outrage in France and a declaration of war on July 19, 1870."

      "The Franco-Prussian War had profound consequences for both France and Germany, as well as for the broader European political landscape.

      The most significant outcome of the war was the unification of Germany. On January 18, 1871, in the Hall of Mirrors at the Palace of Versailles, King Wilhelm I of Prussia was proclaimed Emperor of the German Empire. This unification shifted the balance of power in Europe, establishing Germany as a major continental power."

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        That’s not what OP meant. Napoleon I occupied the German states and brought a lot of reforms including the abolition of feudalism, legal reforms, and administrative efficiency including centralized state governments. He completely reshaped German state borders. As an example, this article (in German) explains how 250 independent territories were merged into 3 territories (which nowadays are one state).

        map of the 250 territories being merged

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            France already knows that Germany likes to take French rulers and claim them as founders of Germany. See: Charlemagne.

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              It’s a two month old comment, but I’m here from a cross-post (piefed just shows the comments under the other posts), but:

              1. It’s Karl der Große

              2. When the Pope had (once again) trouble in Rome, he fled to Karl in Paderborn, a German city.

              3. He regarded Aachen, another German city, as the second Rome and was his main residence.

              4. He was buried in Aachen.

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        I recall that the crowning of Wilhelm was preceded by quite a discussion of whether he’d be called “Emperor of Germany” or “German Emperor”

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    Every country around them kept lumping them together as ‘those fuckers in the trees.’ Couldn’t even agree on a name for them.

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    What’s also fun is that you often still encounter these boundaries today. Many of those splotches are now administrative districts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Districts_of_Germany

    And up until 2023, you often couldn’t travel by bus across multiple splotches without getting multiple tickets from the different regional providers. It was awful.

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      It was awful.

      It was glorious. All Hail to the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation.

      /s

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    ###Electorate of Cologne represent! 1000146696

    (*throws another archbishop to the curb*)

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      You know you done fucked up when your city gets attacked and your citizens run out to join the attacking army

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      (*throws another archbishop to the curb*)

      Hey watch out, the new one hired mercenaries and is pillaging the countryside again!

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      At the least, one understands the desperation of 19th century German nationalists in general. Border gore aside, imagine the tariffs and border controls one must go through for a simple day trip!

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    “Unification” = Prussian dominance through conquering, alliances, and coercion.

    I find the standard historical descriptor “unification” to be statist embellishing and give the false idea that this was somehow grassroots.

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      I find the standard historical descriptor “unification” to be statist embellishing and give the false idea that this was somehow grassroots.

      “War is politics through other means”, and all that jazz. German unification movements were widespread and a key component of Prussia’s success was leveraging that grassroots enthusiasm towards a unified German nation to assist them, by portraying themselves as the most likely to be able to achieve it.

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      Welcome to reality. It’s war. And diplomacy. Which is war with different means.

      Why would anybody give up power if they didn’t have to?

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    I remember a period caricature from my school history book which featured a merchant with an ox cart being stopped and searched at 3 or 4 border crossings at the same time.