• Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    2 months ago

    How people can look at (mostly) state owned rail vs private airlines and still think the free market benefits the average person is one of life’s big mysteries to me.

    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      2 months ago

      I mean, Trump won the vote, and Brexit won the vote… Something tells me it’s as simple as most people are fucking stupid.

  • tatann@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    2 months ago

    Honestly, I’m pretty tall and if it gives more room for my legs, I’d like to have the option

    • WereCat@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Finally more leg room… But now your head bumps against the ceiling and you need to have your head tilted for the entire flight

      • tatann@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 months ago

        Same answer as above

        Most people can’t stand outside of the aisle because this area is meant to be seated (so they put storage space above the head). If the area outside the aisle is meant to be stood (not sure of my english), and they don’t remove the storage above the head, people are in their right to luigi those decision makers.

      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 months ago

        I have to lean sideways anyway because my shoulders are too broad and the side of the plane is round.

        There’s so much about flying that sucks as a big person.

        My knees are folded up to my chest. I’m leaning to the right to stay off the fuselage. I can’t be in an aisle seat because I’m in the way of the crew, and I have to lean forward the whole time because someone is in the seat next to me. And that person hates me.

        My dread of the flying experience is why I never go on vacations.

      • tatann@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Most people can’t stand outside of the aisle because this area is meant to be seated (so they put storage space above the head). If the area outside the aisle is meant to be stood (not sure of my english), and they don’t remove the storage above the head, people are in their right to luigi those decision makers.

    • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      I’ve always imagined it would be like the seats on a stand-up rollercoaster, which are admittedly pretty comfortable; but if they don’t allow you to adjust the height, it could be hell for both short and tall people

    • tatann@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      No idea who fetterman is, I just image-searched “tall man in plane”

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Someone who won on progressive ideals and then immediately stabbed his constituents in the back by going full Democrat.

  • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    For what it’s worth: this was apparently a concept created by an airline seat company called Aviointeriors who showed the idea off at trade shows in 2010 (as the “SkyRider”) and 2018 (as the “SkyRider 2.0” pictured here.) Pretty much all the news articles about it are about Aviointeriors claiming vague unsourced “plans” for them to be adopted by some future date, steeped in Aviointeriors’ corporate PR speak, but the articles mostly end up being about the intense public backlash to the idea. No airlines have announced any plans to buy and use these seats, not even those lunatics at RyanAir, and in the years since all SkyRider mentions have been quietly removed from Aviointeriors’ own site.

    Sources:

  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    2 months ago

    Honestly, that may actually be more comfortable for me than trying to fold my legs into the tiny rows they have now.

  • nroth@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    2 months ago

    Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats? Seems like you’d save the same amount of space or more with vastly more comfort.

      • andybytes@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        Now, it would be pretty reactionary for me to say that you are wrong, especially when speaking about Americans or even the UK. But we are all a byproduct of our environment and I still have empathy and I don’t want a fat shame But I definitely don’t want to glorify it and I want to find the source of the problem Because people don’t necessarily choose to be overweight shit, I’m a little chunky. I’m a poor Yankee. Oh, also, very interesting, China is a capitalist country and it has an obese problem. This is all just shit on top of shit. Like, we gotta go down this rabbit hole of causation. But people don’t have the attention span. One day at a time, I suppose.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      2 months ago

      Why don’t they do lay-down-only seats?

      Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.

      But it’s all shit regardless. Boeing can barely even make planes that don’t fall apart on the runway. The American airline industry’s fleet is increasingly defunct. The FAA is gutted. Airports are falling into disrepare due to mismanagement. You’ll be lucky to get any kind of air travel in another decade.

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        2 months ago

        Bigger and older passengers would find it more difficult to get into the top bunk than to ride a standing-only seat.

        Wouldn’t the same group have trouble standing for an entire flight?

        If only there was some sort of halfway point between lying down and standing up, something which would be easier to than lying down, but wouldn’t be as physically demanding as standing up.

        Oh well.

    • CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Yeah, since this is a shit post, why don’t they wrap the passengers like a piece of luggage and store them on a shelf? Save so much room… Just give them diapers! /S

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    I can’t wait to see people passing out or getting injured because of these seats.

    E: plenty of people arguing like people of good health will be the only passengers.

    • Joeffect@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 months ago

      What could go wrong standing for two hours… Nothing probably if you’re a healthy young individual

      • jcs@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        People are often advised to not lock their knees for a long time while standing (ex: marching band, or standing at attention in the military), and you cannot force anyone to have healthy posture. The ergonomics of these seats appear to take some of the load off the legs and feet, but it’s something to consider for patrons with more sedentary lifestyles. Many people believe themselves to be fit individuals until they are placed in uncomfortable conditions for a long time or experience unexpected stress. They could manage to injure themselves in some way, then find some reason to litigate.

        • bluewing@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 months ago

          I don’t know about how much fat it might take, but my 2 knee surgeries and both my deteriorating hip joints, (been searching eBay for a good used hip joint for cheap), tell me that standing for 2 hours is a painful idea.

          • JulieLemming@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            2 months ago

            They will lock in place and you will be gucci for 10 hours

            Afterwards you just ask this 6’3 bear like guy to give you a slight kick and off the ramp you slide out like a newborn out of uterus

              • JulieLemming@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                2 months ago

                I was kicked out of the plane in any class. I don’t think this is class dependent.

                It speeds things up if you put a Burger King hat on and enact a scene out of 19th century cotton farm plantations.

                People will literally jump to fix your joints for free. Thats how much they love classic American themes

        • andybytes@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 months ago

          Right? And we should just take all the unfit people and just put them in camps and create a perfect society, right? Like, I get angry at America for being so fat, but not because they’re fat. I get angry at how far down the pipeline we have gone of lowest common denominator thinking. To the point where we just eat poisonous food that our body doesn’t know how to process and just stores as fat. Also, capitalism is in crisis. With lowest common denominator thinking add a little slippery slope and the power in the hands of the few with a sprinkling of toxic positive optimism with the cherry of Hopeium and now we’ve got out of touch shithead sundae. I mean, people are claustrophobic and, you know, I think the claustrophobic element makes it even worse when you’re crammed with other people. Some of the outbursts that we see on planes is not just people losing their minds, but it’s also that people are crampacked in a plane. I can see a lot more mental episodes with this type of seating Structure. And I get angry at society cheering on diminishing returns for the working class, while the billionaires are making money over hand over fist. They justify rich people to be in charge of things and to profit, but they still have yet to innovate and give us the future that they said they were going to. We’re being lied to and this is just an example of you getting dominated.

  • nuko147@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    2 months ago

    There’s an idea. Flights that people can make standing, should be banned, except when there is a body of water between the destination.

    • MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      2 months ago

      And if the plane fails, jump out of the plane with the chair and sit down/stand up as you’re about to hit the ground.

      You won’t receive any fall damage during the animation.

      (Make sure to check patch notes, this is a 2020 update exploit)

  • Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    2 months ago

    I mean, I’m broke as shit. So if it halved the cost of the tickets I’d do it, but I’m 99% sure I’d be paying close to the same.

    • andybytes@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      2 months ago

      You must be a wizard. Of course the savings aren’t transferred to you. When they fuck up. They put it on the consumer. Time is unwinding. The poor pay more.

  • LousyCornMuffins@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    2 months ago

    That’s right, girls. Start packing on those pounds because the only airline seat that poops, then lies about it doesn’t have farts in the headrest anymore.